Bootyz
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Does she want me to reassure her that she is not just some old lady but the object of my young desires?
This borders on the obvious, but yes. Ladies of all ages face a constant battering of negative reinpowerment about their looks ("Lose weight, get fit, shape up" etc etc) from Cosmo, Sex in the City and other assorted crap. For a woman older than you to hit on you - a fit, young man - would be going out on a huge limb.
After the workout she found my note and immediately showed it to her husband. Behavior of a cuckoldress?? She simply showed it to him but never opened nor read the note. She just put it in her pocket on her way out of the gym.
This is weird, but we didn't get to know the details - did you put it in her purse or something? And she just went, "Huh, where's this note from?"
If you leave her another note, why not leave a cell phone number, and ask her to send you a text message? Texting is a wee bit more efficient than passing pieces of paper, but still in the vein of the 'note-passing'.
In any case, the giving of gifts are an obvious opening for you to return the favor - ask her out for dinner, or a take, or something. The only harm that can come from it is that she says 'no', and I assume your ego can survive that. :p
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Bootyz- "constant battering of negative reinpowerment about their looks" Thanks for the insight. I've never been able to relate to someone that looks great but still has negative self images issues. I think your totally correct. Thanks for the insight.
"This is weird, but we didn't get to know the details - did you put it in her purse or something? And she just went, "Huh, where's this note from?" Sorry I thought details like that were boring so I left them out. She delivered the cookies in a Tupperware container that after I ate the cookies I returned it to her by placing it on top of her belongings. My note was laying on top of the Tupperware container and in plain sight. I was apprehensive of leaving my phone number in case I misread her signals and her husband flipped out at my work. The gym has a somewhat relaxed stance on their "We're not paying you to hit on chicks" policy but I wasn't going to press my luck without more proof that it wasn't just me incorrectly reading into things.
Angel_Love- Thanks for the insight. I needed to see things from the opposite perspective to better understand it.
Update: Today she worked out and seemed to stall, waiting around for me to get freed up enough for a chat. Unfortunately I was busy, but in plain sight of each other. As I was finishing up my shift I clocked out and when I came out from the office she was there reading our crappy store newsletter. I wished a coworker good night and she filed in next to me as we left the building together. She had just come from the shower and looked amazing. Fresh out of the shower and still with damp hair mmmmmmmm:) She asked if she could walk with me and I gleefully agreed. I did most of the talking on the way through the parking lot. I had just gotten past the ice breaker but before I could get permisteral or ask her out, get her phone number, or remember, even get her name... she made a right hand turn and with a smile and a wave walked away to her car. I literally looked down as to not trip over the curb and when I looked up she was 20ft away. Remember I told you this womans always hits and runs. Incredible energy and stamina, she's definitely not a walker. Her answers to my ice breaking questions are always mysterious. Never revealing, always keeping me guessing. Hmmm this cookie is unlike any that I have cracked before. I'll have to dip her in my milk to soften this cookie up. At what point should I ask about the husbands approval. Prior to the first date, prior to being intimate????
Thanks again for the great insight and advice. Keep it coming T.
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Bootyz
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I guess there is a good chance that the husband is aware and approves, but you probably should not initiate the subject to her. She is either looking to cheat or cuckold with his consent, question is - do you care? I believe in permisteral responsibility, and she took the first step with you, so if she's going to cheat, it's her decision and responsibility.
If you don't care, bringing up the husband could prompt her to tell you that he's ok with it...or it could make her second guess herself and feeling guilty for cheating (if he's not ok with it/aware of it). So if she doesn't breach the question, why should you?
She clearly wants you to make a move on her, so ask her out at the earliest opportunity. Again, she can only say no. Or report you to the gym (which would make her a rather unstable permister best avoided).
I guess I should fess up and say that I'm not a lady, tho. After all, it was their advice you asked... :p
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wifntrng
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FROM A MALE....
I just came across this thread and it sounds very interesting. First off, I’m a guy, so I can’t give a female’s perspective. I CAN tell you that my own wife has the same sentiments as Angel_Love does, in that she likes the men to make the first move.
Not to get into a long biography, my wife started very young and was influenced by older teenage boys (foster kids) living with her dysfunctional family. As they say, even use is better than being ignored, so when they paid attention to her, invited her to party with them, and supplied occasional pot
and holy water, she was eager to please. So from the get-go the ‘societal norms’ of guys making the first move, reinpowerd with her particular experiences as a submissive sexual partner, make her a female who is VERY into guys pursuing her.
She’s a flirt and a tease, but in a demure way. Unlike popular cuck themes, she doesn’t see other guys because I’m a cuck/wimp and she’s the wife/bitch. All she needs is a clean, good looking guy who’s either 1) confident with a good permisterality, or 2) a dominant bad-boy type. Most importantly, they need to take control because that’s what her submissive/masochist permisterality craves.
As for the gym lady, I think you should definitely ask her to coffee or lunch. She can get to know you and vice versa. Be confident, but not arrogant. During the meeting, ask directly, but with finesse, as to why you’re the target of her gifts. While it may sound over the top, try a “To what do I owe the pleasure of all the cookies and cakes.” Since she’s older, being gallant and a gentlemen will probably score points. Remember the golden days of Hollywood: Even the scoundrels and rogues had manners. If she’s elusive and not very forthcoming, you can throw out suggestions and see how she reacts.
As for what’s happening between her and her husband, in my opinion that’s not really your concern, or your business. If she’s walking in the front door with him and bringing you goodies, he must know something is going on. That’s between them as a couple. She may not be comfortable discussing it. I know my wife isn’t. We adore each other, and she doesn’t like anyome to think bad of me, even strangers. So if questions are asked, her story is that I’m a committed, loving husband. She’d much rather be considered a slut, cheat, sex addict, or whatever, then tell someone the details.
As mentioned by Bootyz, gym lady is an adult and capable of making her own decisions. Whether she is cheating or cucking, that’s her business. You might be the first guy she’s ever approached like this, or you might be in line to be fuck stud number 100.
I’d provide a gift of goodies to her (reciprocating is always nice) and in the card, give your email addy or phone number, asking for hers in return. Also suggest coffee or lunch. She might be too shy to call/email, but if you can at least get her to provide her info in turn, then you have a way to contact her.
Oh, girls who like to be mysterious like to see men overcome little obstacles. Since she hasn’t told you her name, find out what it is using the gym registration info. If that’s not possible, the next time you talk to her, say something like “Since I don’t have your name, and couldn’t find it (that lets her know you’re interested enough to make the effort of finding out, which will flatter her) I guess I’ll just have to give you a name.” Pick something cute, like Sandi, Jennifer, etc. What do you imagine her name is? That’ll give her a couple joices, either hand over her name (since you’ve done sometying to earn it) or go along with you. She might like the latter since it is more anonymous and ‘mysterious.’
I’ve nailed six married women in my day. Five of them while in college and of those all but one were 15-30+ years older than me. Those older women all liked gentlemanly manners and conduct. Now once we were in the bedroom passion did take charge and they knew what they wanted. But outside the bedroom, it was intelligence, manners, a decent physique, good grooming and a sense of adventure that caught their interest.
Good luck and keep us informed. If it doesn’t work out, don’t hold a grudge, or take it permisterally. Her husband might get cold feet. She might get cold feet. Or life might throw in a zinger that eliminates the opportunity.
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