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baiout

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Hi all,
I've been on here for a while and have had fun with my wife being with others, we have done a good few thing with other guys and enjoyed it all.

Here's the problem. One of our friends has had something for her and we agreed that it probably wouldn't be long before something happened and I was absolutely fine with it and looking forward to it.
However, Sunday night I went up to bed after we'd been dr1nking most of the day. One other friend had stayed down and they had a bit of a touch and feel under the blanket. That was as far as they could go though, as didn't want to wake the other friend up.

When she told me after coming up to bed, I almost came instantly. However it's been on my mind so much and the angst has made me feel sick to the point of not eating and being a bag of nerves. I think it's because they work in our local bar together and we do see him a fair amount. Whenever we've had fun, it's always been with someone we've met online who have their fun and leave. But the thought that we would see so much of him is really holding me back and my wife has assured me that if I'm uneasy that she will say no as doesn't want my head going through turmoil.

I haven't helped the situation as I am so up and down with it.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you
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Are you a submissive cuckold or are you more of a voyeur?
If it's the former I think your partner's entitled to override your angst and do as she sees fit.
If it's the latter she should respect your limitations.

Either way, it's got to be right for you both 😊
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I like to play the submissive part in the heat of the moment, but mainly I'm a voyeur/love to hear about it type. I adore cleaning up afterwards, but that's a no go for now as we are trying for a baby and don't want any complications that way.

She does always respect my limitations in there's no doubt about that.
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Either go in to chastity so you can do as you're told easier, or ask her not to do it with anyone in your social circle 😊
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BumNote

Thank you for you help
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I had a similar experience the first time my wife went with another guy. He was a customer at the shop she worked in and, despite him being only 23 he started hitting on my wife, unconcerned that she was nearly 35 and married with 4 kids. She was flattered and up for going out for a dr1nk with him, well aware that it was more than a dr1nk he was after. We'd been discussing the possibility of her having sex with other men for about two years, playing with the idea in bedroom role-play with the help of a dildo. I'd told her how good it was watching another "cock" going in and out of her and how naughty she was doing it with "him" right there in front of her husband. She'd climax noisily at the prospect, smiling as she murmured, "You love it!"

So it was agreed that she'd accept his offer of a dr1nk after work, the guy amused when she told him she'd told her husband that they were stock-taking, so might be very late home. She was indeed late home. After a few dr1nks it was back to his place for coffee and my wife was soon naked in his bed. The young lad had plenty of stamina and was able to fuck her 3 times before he let her go home. We chatted about her evening in bed as we made love and I readily agreed to her suggestions that she'd like to carry on seeing him, have a young toyboy "bit on the side", fuck him at least a couple of times a week, maybe even stay over at his place sometimes.

I don't know why but a couple of days later the cuckold angst kicked in big-time. What if he was better in bed than me? What if he had a bigger dick than me? What if she left me for him? She did her best to reassure me that he wasn't, he didn't and that I'd always be her number 1, but like an idiot I asked her not to see him again. She was a bit hurt by this, but the fact that he hadn't been in touch since that night made her feel used and dirty, that she'd been too easy and now he'd got what he'd been after, he wasn't interested. We had a few quiet days, with me now re-assuring her that we were still okay and that no harm had been done and gradually we got back to normal.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but looking back I really wish I'd held my nerve and let things take their course. He did eventually turn up back at the shop, hopefully of having sex with my wife again, but she declined the offer. He took rejection quite badly, saying loudly so other staff and customers could hear, "Well, you weren't worried about your husband and kids last time" and told the little gang of teenagers that used to hang around outside the shop in the evenings how he "fucked that married ginger slag". Two of the older ones, 17, 18 year olds, even propostioned her later in the hope of getting some easy pussy too.

It was to be another 9 years or so before I managed to persuade my wife to give it another try and we were much more successful, presumably us both now older and wiser and a stronger, trusting marriage. Or maybe not as she left me 3 years later for somebody else!

So my advice to you baiout would be to hold your nerve and let your wife handle this her way. If she wants to have sex with this guy, you should let her. That would be preferable to them doing it in secret behind your back.
Peter C
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Thank you Peter. Yes, she said he was a bit bigger than I am in the cock department and definitely thicker. It is typical, he's one of those who wins at everything lol.

I really do want them to have fun, but just so worried of the thought of someone finding out and her then getting a bad name as people wouldn't understand.

She has said she won't go any further now and I trust her totally with that. My trust for her is not the issue here at all. So I know it's not completely off the table, as there will probably be another night after dr1nking where were all feeling brave.

I really wish the other friend hadn't stayed over as well, at least that way I know something would definitely have happened and I'd know exactly how is feel about it all
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That's tough because there is no escape for you, since like you said this is someone you will both see regularly.

My wife told several of her friends about the cuckolding and cheating she did on me, and in that way I know how it feels, it's in my face whenever she sees her friends, I am shamed to be around them I feel it and the humll iation is ever present.

I'm also in a sub role, but I like to choose when I am in that role. since her friends know it all it's present whether I am in the sub mood or not. It can be rough when you're not in the mood and you are painted red in humll iation anyway. I later get off on it, but at those times it's kinda bru tal and wow how does it feel.

I would find it very difficult in your situation, but I don't know the all important details that you do, meaning every situation is different, and you're unique in how comfortable you are with it and how sub or beta you are when repeatedly being confronted with his presence and her giving herself to him.

In your case I would let her do what she wants and needs. I would fear her cheating on me if I protested. When a man and woman are getting on like that, anything can happen.
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Thank you for your reply. He does know that we've done things in the past with others, just that it's always been with strangers. I know he wouldn't want a relationship with my wife as he is always after women and I couldn't see that stopping.

It was me who put the idea in her head whilst having sex and I came instantly when we fantasised about it. Now the mire he's stayed over for a dr1nk, the closer it's becoming to a reality.

Personally, I would now like then to get on and do it, to rip the band aid off, as they say. It's just the anxiety that's driving me crazy and her saying she won't go any further if it has this affect on me.

It's so conflicting
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baiout

The fact that this guy knows you and your wife have done things in the past with others no doubt fuelled his imagination that night he stayed over and with a dr1nk inside him - and your wife - that's probably what led to them having a little play under that blanket downstairs after you'd gone up to bed. As you say, had that other friend not been as1eep nearby, things might have gone further, but at least your wife already knows that he has a bigger, thicker cock than you. I wonder how far he got with your wife? Did he get his cock sucked or get a finger or two into your wife's wet pussy perhaps? He'd see that as a good start and will want more.

You need to fight that anxiety and show your wife that you're happy for them to go all the way and have sex. if he's a ladies man like you say, he has no doubt had her in mind for a long time and would at least be able to cross your wife off his "to do" list. How would he be with you afterwards though? I'm assuming he'd know that you know. Would he be smug in your presence, a bit arrogant even? Is he the type of guy to boast about it to other staff or customers seeing as him and your wife work together? It's one thing knowing how you and your wife are going to handle it if the two of them do end up having sex, but he's the unknown quantity. You could of course all sit down together and discuss how this is going to play out.
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I know that she just played with him in her hands while he rubbed her cl1t. She said she did want to suck him, but that never happened because of the other one being there. That made me cum almost instantly when I heard them words.

It's the after part that is the only thing holding it all back. He'd be fine with us both, it's just in case he blabs it to someone else down the club and words spread. That's my main concern. It's too easy to be loose lipped after a few dr1nks. I've slipped up plenty of times lol.

I wondered about the sitting down and chatting it through first, but don't want him feeling too awkward.

Thank you guys, I really do appreciate your help here
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She's gone to work and he's on tonight as well. They're on separate bars tho. I said to wear a skirt for more tips

The butterflies are ****** strong tonight. Again, I know she won't do anything without knowing how I'll feel, but I do feel its a bit of fuel on the fire
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baiout:
It's the after part that is the only thing holding it all back. He'd be fine with us both, it's just in case he blabs it to someone else down the club and words spread. That's my main concern. It's too easy to be loose lipped after a few dr1nks.

If you explain to your wife that that's your only worry then that hopefully should reassure her that it's okay to have sex with him. Then I think it should be down to her to explain to him that she's up for it and that you're fine with it too, but stress to him that this must go no further, that no-one else needs to know. No boasting or bragging in the bar or else. I hope she was flattered by your suggestion to wear a skirt to encourage guys to tip more. A low cut top would help too! My wife used to make good use of her cleavage and legs like that.
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I hope she fucks this guy and it becomes regular.
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baiout

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Nothing happened last night. He was in a miserable mood apparently lol. I didn't ask, but she would have said if anything was even mentioned.

The tips worked a fair bit. She does have lovely legs, so does better when she shows them off. We need all the money we can get as we have a holiday coming up
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baiout:
The tips worked a fair bit. She does have lovely legs, so does better when she shows them off.

My wife's best feature was her legs and I always encouraged her to show them off. When we first met it was always jeans, but as time passed she got more confident as her skirts and dresses got shorter and shorter. Similarly, she didn't have a bad pair of tits but once I'd bought her a Wonderbra to enhance her cleavage - her idea, not mine - her tops got lower too, even stealing my V-neck sweaters. To be fair, she looked better in them than me and the men enjoyed checking her out. The lucky ones got to spread those legs and give her the extra cock she wanted.



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She does have nice legs. Do you speak to her now?
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I think it will definitely happen. She worked last night in very short denim shorts and I went there too for a few beer$. You could feel the sexual tension between them. The odd bit of eye contact and very slight flirting
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I'm sure she will be fucking him before you know it 😈🙏🏼
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baiout:
She does have nice legs. Do you speak to her now?

Thank you. I'm pleased you like Debbie's legs. We divorced in 2014 but we're still friends and she's still with the guy she left me for, though I get the impression he keeps her on a tight rein knowing her past history for liking some extra cock. I've tried to get her chatting about the old days a couple of times, but she clams up and won't discuss what she used to get up to when we were married. I suspect she realises I've found out about two or three other lovers she had but never told me about. Strange, because I wouldn't have minded.

baiout:
I think it will definitely happen. She worked last night in very short denim shorts and I went there too for a few beer$. You could feel the sexual tension between them. The odd bit of eye contact and very slight flirting

Well, that sounds promising. I bet she looked amazing in her little denim shorts and gained confidence from all the attention other men were giving her legs. That your wife and the guy she was working with were making eye contact and flirting a bit with you there can only be good news. You being there in the bar may even have heightened the sexual tension you detected.

I agree with BumNote. I think this is going to happen real soon.
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Any update?
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SNJ_Dom

No, nothing now. It's all cooled down and we've agreed it's for the best nothing happens in the future with people in our circle of friends.

We are, however, open to fun with people we can meet for secret encounters
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baiout

That's a shame, but understandable and probably quite sensible in the circumstances. At least you know that your wife's had his cock in her hand and he's had a finger or two inside your wife. He won't forget that either.
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You have to trust your gut, and each other. Not only is that guy someone who your other friends know, but it's also a work situation as well. It's probably safer and smarter to keep things away from those situations. Some guys just love to boast, even when they know they shouldn't (I've done it before, but learned from it )

This reminds me of a situation I was part of about 10 years ago, but a rather unique one. I had gotten to know a mature married woman on an online chat space, and long-story-short I became her Master, and she my slave, even though we had not met. Everything was via online chat, email, and phone calls. Through my encouragement and direction, she dressed more provocatively and flirted more, reporting back to me whenever men came on to her, and in general having her getting used to the idea of RL sexual fun with men in RL (real life), vs. the chat based online play I had her engaged in for quite some time.

This got the attention in particular of a slightly younger black friend of theirs (she and hubby). As with your wife and her coworker, after some flirting, one night they were at a bar with others, went outside to his car for a cigarette, and some touching happened, which for her was a particularly big step because her hubby was a school sweetheart and the only man she had been with.

That clearly gave him the green light in his head, because a short time later she ended up at his house alone with him, he made a move, she totally gave in, and he fucked her. Not only was this the first other man she'd ever been with besides her hubby, he was also black (she later told me that before this, she never ever thought the idea of being with a black man was appealing). And true to form, he also had a huge cock, and much bigger than her husband's.

Again, as with you, there was concern about him talking, because he was in their circle of friends that they knew, and also she and this guy also worked together part time on weekends sometimes. She had a talk with him, he agreed to be discreet, and he kept his word, so I let them have some other fun times together after that, which were always very hot to hear her talk about. He never talked, and her hubby never found out.

So, it's all about if the situation feels comfortable, and if your wife's coworker is mature and trustworthy enough. If you're not 100% sure about that, it's best to maybe find strangers instead.
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Thank you both for you replies. That's very true SNJ Dom. I know for a fact he can't keep his mouth closed sometimes and as much as the idea gets me hot, I can just feel that it would lead to disaster and misunderstanding for all the bar staff, me the customers and anyone else who could find out.

The other thing is. I LOVE to watch and participate. I love to suck the men's cock and get them hard for her or to suck the juices off him. That's something we could never do with this guy. No one knows I'm bi curious and we want to keep it that way, so that would be off the table.

We will see what happens next. As I've said before, she isn't on birth control at all as we are leaving it to fate if we have a kid of our own, so not rushing anything too much for now.
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baiout
No matter what happens, good luck!
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Thank you very much buddy
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Just a tiny update. I genuinely had a dream of them together the other night, but when I mentioned it to her she just laughingly said, oh that's getting you going again?

Nothing more than that, but clearly still in my head
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baiout:
Just a tiny update. I genuinely had a dream of them together the other night, but when I mentioned it to her she just laughingly said, oh that's getting you going again?

Nothing more than that, but clearly still in my head

And probably still in her head too if the truth be known, especially as they work together. But at least she wasn't annoyed that it still gets you going and laughed. She's obviously doesn't mind that you'd have been okay with it if anything had happened.
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Thank you. Yes, she's fine with that side of it. She knows how crippling my anxiety can be at times, so is very understanding with that. We support each other with those issues
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