bursting
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Things have moved on.
I was removed from my cage and have been free for the past week.
They were still messaging, still just chit chat, that she liked but was beginning to be a little frustrated with. I told her (boldly on my part) that if she wants to move things on, she might need to take the lead and push it a little.
She thought about it and did.
Things started getting a little more flirty, and more still, until chat was mostly friendly during the day with a little flirting to full on sexual fantasies, telling each other what they want to do to the other one.
She was enjoying this, and I was pretty much to. they swapped a few pics, but nothing explicit, which was enjoyed all round. He was a little taken aback by how things had developed but was loving it, she pushed a little more and expressed that there should actually be a physical happening. He seemed interested, but not as much as we'd hoped. He did have a possible time/place for a meet, but when pressed on the details it unravelled and he admitted he hadn't thought how it would actually work. She invited him here for a little while one afternoon when we were all free, telling him i'll be out of the way (I was going to keep in the spare room), but although he loved the idea, he didn't do it.
We spoke as a couple about the situation, each other, us as unit and our emotions.
This was good. I needed to voice a few concerns, and she needed to too.
The situation changed a little, to us both wanting us both to be happy and satisfied from an outcome, rather than have anything unsaid or inferred acting against the situation and overall our relationship.
We would both love him to join us as a couple, making a threesome. The 3 of us at times and at others just them 2 with me watching.
He stated that he wasn't expecting that, and wasn't too sure what to make of it. In fact he said the situation was 'mad'.
He is happy to message behind his womans back and to be very explicit with it, and seems keen to meet for a kiss and fumble as it were, but then seems to fluff about and certainly goes shy when she mentions me being included.
I can, to a point, understand that.
They are still messaging and sending the odd pic. We had amazing sex the other night, lasting a couple of hours as she messaged him. He knew I was there and she was getting off, and liked it, but it still didn't do anything for him that I was there with her.
It may just be this, it may fizzle out. Equally, this could develop if he comes round to our thinking, or we may adjust to things and change to us being ok with just them two meeting up without me.
Either or any way, i'll keep posting and updating.
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baiout
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Excellent progress, however I feel you would be best to let them play alone first if you really want it to happen. At least then it will broaden the possibility of you getting involved in the future.
That's what we were going to do, but we ended up having a baby so everything is on hold now for the foreseeable future. I am a very patient guy tho lol
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i122
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I agree with baiout. You should let them meet alone the first couple times. I know from experience that unless it just spontaneously happens a threesome can be complicated. When I meet a new married lady I like to have her alone to build some chemistry and also to let us all get use to the idea of me fucking her. My wife also loves to date alone. She says that it is to awkward if I'm there. So let her do a couple dates alone with him. If all goes well then she can invite him over to the house a couple times while you are "out". Then after he is comfortable with that arrangement conveniently be sitting in the living room after he comes out of the bedroom from fucking her. Offer him a beer or coke or something, just get him to stay and talk for a bit. It will be awkward for him but he will then know that you are cool with him fucking your wife. When he is ready to leave be sure to invite back.
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peter50
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I agree with baiout and i122. If you want to get things moving, it is best for you to be low-key. Anything else could be counterproductive. Let them have their fun alone, at least in the beginning.
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bursting
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Thanks for the input guys.
We've spoken at length about all of this. Part of it is my angst and worry about it all, its so new and against everything I know. Part of it is her not wanting to hurt me and wanting this to be a bit of fun for all parties involved. So the answer at the moment is to slow it down a little and see how it goes, and how we all are as individuals at each stage.
Maybe im not cut out to be a cuck, or perhaps just not yet, or perhaps I am and it'll all be great. We are about to find out I feel.
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kennyboy82
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I've been following this from the start and I think progress is there, albeit very slow. I agree that you shouldn't push it too hard, but don't procrastinate either or it might well fizzle out as you put it. I think they both need reassurance that you're ok with all this, and that won't happen unless you calm yourself and be prepared to let go, and allow things to develop between them. I totally agree that they should be given time alone to get together as they (especially him it seems) want. Stay out of it until they're comfortable with each other and with the idea of you watching/taking part. I suspect he will take more convincing than your wife. As for not being cut out to be a cuckold, everybody is, only sometimes it takes a little searching to find the right circumstances for the individual. Perseverance is the key here!
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bursting
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Thanks Kenny
it's the letting go im struggling with, and the fear of her falling for him, or at least getting further than things just being a bit of mutual physical fun.
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i122
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That is always a fear. People especially women seem to easily succumb to their emotions. The chance of a single guy wanting to make her his is also great. Therefore we try to limit our play pals to other married individuals. There are pros and cons to this arrangement but overall it seems to work the best at keeping everyone in focus that it's only about the SEX!
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bursting
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that's it, keeping it just sex.
That's what my main worry is, and she fully understands that.
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shankly
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You're doing everything right and the feeling of cuck angst is something I can relate too, enjoy the cuckold roller coaster of emotions it only gets better! Droopy and Miss
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kennyboy82
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#131 · Edited by: kennyboy82
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bursting: the fear of her falling for him, or at least getting further than things just being a bit of mutual physical fun. This is the very thing that starts the feelings of angst off, your mind's being fucked, but despite that, the excitement of what's happening is almost too much to bear, but there's no way you want it to stop! It's a kind of exquisite t*rture!
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bursting
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Things have settled down this past week.
They have chatted and decided to lay off the near constant messaging, and see how things go when they see each other.
She hasn't seen him for 2 weeks now face to face, but is going to his fitness class tonight.
I've told her that after our chat and me having some time to think about things, as long as the messaging is kept down and anything that happens is kept as fun, then I'm feeling a lot better about the whole thing.
I trust her to keep things fun and not to let any outside relationship be detrimental to our own. This is the most important factor for me.
She is looking forward to seeing him tonight at the class, and a little nervous too. She is working a few hours tomorrow (Saturday) and is hoping to angle things that he will make a point of calling in to see her there, and try and get her alone in a quiet part of the building. I'm hoping for this also, and have told her to do what she wants really in that respect, and to have some fun.
We'll see how tonight goes first, I have a feeling there might be some messaging after the class, and then see if anything happens tomorrow.
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bursting
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Fitness class went ok, she caught him looking a few times but no chance to talk.
She's got home and he's messaged asking if she enjoyed tonight, he did, especially getting chance to check her out. He's also said it was a pity they didn't get any time alone and if she's working alone tomorrow.
They are chatting some more via messenger now.
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bursting
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They've arranged to meet tomorrow.
He's going to see her first thing at work, when there's less chance of them being interrupted.
It's truth time for us! Still tame in comparison to many tales on here, but it's very real for us.
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kennyboy82
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Doesn't matter if you think it's a tame tale, it's happening, that's the main thing. Good things often take a while to kick off, so waiting for them just sharpens your appetite! You'll discover that not every possible meet with a potential stud comes to anything, there's always plenty of lost opportunities along the way! Glad you seem to have got your head around the possibilities now, just go with it, progress is there, it just took a while that's all.
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bursting
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Thanks Kenny
She got up at 6 this morning to get ready to go meet him. She's just kissed me goodbye, and she looks ace. She's got a really cheeky smile too, I love it!
I'll see her in about 4 hours or so now, she's said she'll text me before that though to tell me how it went.
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SheDatesHeWaits
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bursting: Still tame in comparison to many tales on here That's because your experience is real, and much of what you read is mere fantasy. Real life cuckold relationships aren't easy. It takes work like any other relationship, especially with three people involved. FWIW, years ago I/we had a similar situation where I was concerned my wife was getting too emotionally close with someone. I shared my concerns and she immediately backed off. In hindsight, I wish I had not done that because it denied her some sexual fun that she otherwise could have had. That relationship fizzled out, and I later realized my fears were groundless. She was just caught up in the excitement of being desired by another man. So I've learned from that, and will be very reluctant to ask her to back off again. You'll grow as a husband if you can learn to trust your wife's judgement 100%. It will make you stronger. cuckold - Pronunciation - kuk-uhld - noun 1) The husband of an unfaithful wife. 2) A husband whose wife has sex with others. NOTE - It does NOT say: Sexually confused, submissive, humiliated, sissified, crossdresser, cocksucker, or piss drinker
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bursting
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thanks PCC. Good to read your thoughts on this.
They met first thing this morning in another dept at work, it was quiet but still people coming and going, which stopped full play.
They kissed and groped a little. She said she really liked it and got very turned on, but it felt weird kissin someone else. She'd stopped to change before meeting him, out of her tights/pantyhose and into some lace topped hold up stockings, to go under her short skirt. Love that she did that especially for him.
They've swapped a few messages but not much to go on. She asked if he was going to come back to ours after work, but he says he hasn't an alibi to cover that.
I suggested she call back into see him when she leaves, which she hadn't thought of, but liked. She asked if that was ok.
Next thing, she has text me to say that he is going to walk her out when she has finished and back to her car. That will be happening about right now actually.
We'll see how this develops.
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i122
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SheDatesHeWaits We had a similar experience also. Except it was the guy who was the most emotional and started getting possible of her. He was single and wanted her for his own. That contributes to why I feel strongly about playing with only married people. P. S. I also was playing with a single woman once who took the same approach. Again why I say playing with another married person is the best. Less hassles except trying to arrange meets that work for all involved.
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Just to update on Saturday....
They walked to her car which was in a large car park, and he asked if he should kiss her there and then. There were a few people about, so they decided to sit in the car rather than stand outside. Once in the car, he leaned across and kissed her long and hard. She loved that. He mentioned that he still felt the situation was a little weird, and he was struggling to understand how I was ok with them doing it. He added that he felt they should chat a bit more about it in future, maybe she could explain it better. She does struggle with these things, in honesty, and she knows this. I've suggested she tells him we all get together, and I explain it better. She isn't to certain he'll go for that, but might try suggesting it.
When she got home, we has awesome sex most of the afternoon, fantastic!
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i122
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She is presenting you with an awesome opportunity. Have her talk to him and find out when he is available for the evening or an afternoon. Then schedule a meet & Greet at a restaurant coffee shop or bar. Then explain to him that you are totally ok with then fucking. Tell him the rules that they must play by and what you expect. Then reach in your pocket and pull out a hotel key card and give it to him. Tell him that he is to enjoy your wife must must promise to respect the both of you and your wishes and he can have all her pussy he wants.
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SheDatesHeWaits
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bursting: She does struggle with these things, in honesty, and she knows this. I can understand that. My wife struggled to understand the whole "Cuck thing" at first, too. Most women don't get it. It took months of explaining before my wife understood why it turns me on. You will probably need to do the same with your wife. Be honest and open. Tell her why it arouses you. Hopefully she will get it eventually, then be able to explain it to other guys. Until then, like i122 suggests, perhaps you could explain it to the other guy yourself. If not, or if he doesn't want to meet you, then do like my wife once did. She would just tell the other guy that she didn't get it either, but that shouldn't stop them from enjoying themselves! Or, if you want to have more fun with it, get her to say "Don't worry about my husband. Who cares. Let's fuck!" cuckold - Pronunciation - kuk-uhld - noun 1) The husband of an unfaithful wife. 2) A husband whose wife has sex with others. NOTE - It does NOT say: Sexually confused, submissive, humiliated, sissified, crossdresser, cocksucker, or piss drinker
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kennyboy82
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SheDatesHeWaits: Most women don't get it. How true this is! Most of them believe (at first) it's just an excuse for you to fuck as many women as you want, it can take a lot of persuading to convince her that the opposite is what you want. You're ok with not getting any and her becoming the Hotwife you've always wanted! This situation is progressing nicely, a meet and greet with him to settle his mind about him fucking her is your next move. Get that done and it's only a small step away to you becoming the cuck you so want to be. While all this is happening, get her to cage you, don't fuck her, you'll both be screaming for release by the time she spreads her legs for him. That's your cue to get to work with your tongue on that well fucked pussy! You should still be in chastity at this time so she sees you're serious about her extra marital fucking.
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FantMstr
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My two cents on the meet and greet.
It is a great idea!
I would suggest a coffee shop very near a motel hotel.
I would not pull out a motel/hotel "key" and hand it to him. He seems a little skittish and doing that my cause him to panic and run.
You and your wife should go to the meeting in separate cars. At some point after you tell them what you think, excuse yourself and leave, telling them that you will leave the two of them to discuss anything that they want to and that you will expect your wife home whenever she gets there. If nature takes its course they can use the nearby hotel/motel, their decision.
On the chastity. I like that idea and **I** would sure appreciate it being "dropped" somewhere in the conversation the thee of you have. BUT I don't know how he would take it. For your "enjoyment", I would suggest that you are in chastity at the meeting - the key with your wife. If it is dropped in the conversation is based on the read of how he is taking it.
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i122
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FantMstr I would advise against bring up the chastity thing. It may make him believe you are gay or at least bisexual and that may be a total turn off for him. Instead you could tell him that you have been denied for the last couple days so she would be completely fresh for his taking. If he becomes a regular then maybe clue him in on the chastity thing. Hopefully by then he will be able to present you with a health certificate so they can play bare
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FantMstr
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I agree that everything possible should be done not to turn him off.
I do think it would be a "turn on" for bursting and wife, if he was in chastity at the conversation. Their own mental trip that does not have to be shared with him.
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FantMstr
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Damn and Drat I always remember something after pressing send. I don't remember it rising its "ugly head" here before. In this age of STD's she should carry a condum. I certainly, given the questionability of anything happening, would not count on him to bring one.
Be well.
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i122
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Yes until he can produce a recent health certificate stating STD free and even then it's a risk. She can save the cum full condom for kinks though
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kennyboy82
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I agree on both counts - 'bursting' should both wear his cage to the meet, without telling the prospective stud that he's in chastity, but he should let him know that he's been denied any cunt for a while. The stud should then understand there's some hot pussy on offer if he wants it!
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bursting
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Thanks again guys for the input here, please keep adding your thoughts and advice, it's all valued.
Our current situation has evolved to be a little different to a 'true' cuck, as we both agree that I should be involved or at least present at any meet. This might change with time, but this is where we are at as things stand.
He won't meet me at all. Whether at our place or somewhere else. She has asked him to come to ours with me not there, and he won't even do that. He will only meet her somewhere else, in a car or something, which for me and her isn't ideal. So there's a bit of a stalemate.
I'm disappointed that he won't even come to ours with me out of the way, as it's the safest and best environment for them to get together and makes perfect sense to me (and us), but he's having none of it at all.
So things have died down currently. She's missing the excitement that his messages provided and I'm missing it a bit too, but we both agree that any 'fun' has to be agreeable to us both, rather than her having more free reign to do as she pleases. Like I say, that might change, but is how we both feel for now.
Not sure how this will go or evolve. He wants to see get again at work this weekend for more kissing etc, that I know would lead to touching etc, but she's not able to go into work at the weekend for the next few weeks for several reasons. She is going to his fitness class on Friday night, so will see him then but it'll be very much 'business' as they both need to be careful with so many people around.
We'll keep at it and see if we can have him come round a little to our 'needs'.
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