badboy_20055
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Lets start with a definition of the term 'Cuckold' in the dictionary;
cuckoldingpresent participle of cuck·old (Verb) Verb: (of a man) Make (another man) a cuckold by having a sexual relationship with his wife. (of a man's wife) Make (her husband) a cuckold.
The key term here on both examples is *Make*. It does not say *Man persuades his wife to cheat on him* or *Man finds wife a partner and lets them go at it* This is not cuckolding or cheating but simply SWINGING or FAKE CUCKOLDING. Real cuckolding is when either another man has your wife cheating on you without permission or your wife one day tells you she is cheating on you and you are now her cuckold bitch.
In order for these terms to be really fulfilled, they can only be initiated by the bull or the female, NOT the husband who seeks a man to fuck his wife or persuading his wife to cheat on him. Like what was said before, this is just swinging in its loosest terms.
After reading many posts here about men who exchange tips on how to get their woman to cuckold/cheat on them, I find many flaws in their methods of initiating such activities. Men will try to persuade their wife to cheat on them, but this in turn makes your wife NOT WANT TO CHEAT/CUCKOLD YOU. To look at the reamisters why, we only need to look at the essence of cheating and basic female psychology.
One of the reamisters why women cheat is because it is dangerous and a thrill. When you try to persuade your wife into cheating, this takes the danger and thrill factor away which in turn takes her AWAY from such activities. It actually makes your wife MORE ATTRACTED TO YOU and less likely to find another man. The reamister women cheat on men is because either she feels more attraction to the other man then she does to her husband. So by showing your wife you don't care, it makes her want you more since you are risking losing her. I think some men on this forum find this when they have tried to persuade their wife to cheat/adopt the cuckolding lifestyle and the woman was not open to it.
THE SECRET
What you really need to do is THE COMPLETE REVERSE. Become the jealous husband. Tell her NOT to hang out with this new potential man. Make your marriage a boring routine. Withdraw sex from her. It is very important you tell her why you're withdrawing sex from her. If you simply tell her you do not want sex or tired, this will make her more attracted to you and want sex more. So we do the OPPOSITE. We start going for sex more! When she tells you she is too tired for sex on a regular basis THIS IS WHEN YOU ARE MAKING PROGRESS. Start begging her when she tells you NO. This will make you more needy and make her less attracted to you. Stop hanging out with your friends and pay full attention to your wife. Become the super nice guy for her. Take her jokes on you too seriously and REACT. Let her know she can fuck with you emotionally. Soon after some time she will start to spend more time with friends...this is when new potential alpha males come into her life and she'll be open to cheating.
Well theres a quick taster of the information I have or have experimented with for some time. If people want me to post more and go into more detail on how to get their wife to cheat on them let me know and I will post more information....
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bobthehoon
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That seems like really good advice and is fairly close to what I have experienced in the past. Please post more, I think you are onto a winner!
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dls
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Hey I like your comment, or really a explanation if what this forum is supposed to be about. Detailed and to the point. I’m not sure what the response will be . I just wanted to let you know I enjoyed the effort you put into it. I say response because it seems by writing it you also understand that about 92% of this forum is off topic. More so than most subject forums. Sometimes I feel like “open house on all sexual topics” would be more to the point. But at any rate it’s often good for a thrill or a laugh. Some posts are very good in fact. They just are not on the topic of the forum.
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badboy_20055
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#4 · Edited by: badboy_20055
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Thank you for the complimentary replies. I will give one warning that these techniques are DANGEROUS are not to be taken lightly. THEY WILL WORK and WILL make your wife less attracted to you and open to other men and reversal of such methods will be VERY difficult. It will be like playing with a grenade, you might find yourself too deep and that grenade will blow up in your face if you're not careful. We are essentially hacking the system of the laws of attraction and bending them to our own goals.
A moment a go I read a article about cuckolding and the writer tells its listeners to 'persuade' her to so she fucks other men and has the dominant position. However, this is far from the TRUTH. By 'persuading' her she is DOING IT FOR YOU and you still have the DOMINANT POSITION. Real cuckolding is when you have no CHOICE.
I've studied female psychology and practice for the past eight years. I've tested such methods on past girlfriends and always had a high success rate - no matter how 'loyal' she said she was in the beggining. There are many ways and scenario's to get the cuckold lifestyle going. Of course, every information I post will be free, as I believe information of this nature should be. So if I get positive response I will definitely post in more details.
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bobthehoon
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It is a big decision to make, because eventually she may leave you. But I'm ready!
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verysmalldicked
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Please do add more
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Ericsocal
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Yes please post more.
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bovril
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Read the "red queen" by matt Ridley ..... Explains it all from a biology and genetic perspective.... It isn't about cuckolding.... It is about genetics and behaviour/psychology
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slemx
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badboy_20055: If people want me to post more and go into more detail on how to get their wife to cheat on them let me know and I will post more information.... I confess not agree 100% with the approach (I'm of those who think that communication between partners should be fully), but it's very interesting. Of course, is delightful to be cucked without even asking for it... Would be excellent if you were talking more about the subject. It's obvious that English is not my native language. Sorry for any inconvenience. My blog (spanish): http://keratafilia.blogspot.com
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slemx
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bovril: Read the "red queen" by matt Ridley Thanks for the tip It's obvious that English is not my native language. Sorry for any inconvenience. My blog (spanish): http://keratafilia.blogspot.com
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cplnearottawa
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The best experience I ever had was when my wife was away at a conference.. and she was mad at me. She met a guy and had sex with him... she WANTED me to find out.
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badboy_20055
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It really depends on the amount of control you wish to have. Full control is open communication with your wife but then again you still hold the DOMINANT POSITION so it is no longer cuckolding but instead SWINGING.
You could work something out with a best friend... let him tool you in front of her.. (When I say tooling I mean when two men have a verbal playful battle of wits and one man becomes more re-active so the other takes the more dominant position) If you play the weak nice guy-friend while your friend plays the dominant bad boy who wants her and she knows it.. eventually if you do all the steps mentioned above in previous post you'll find yourself in a cuckolding relationship quite quickly. Then again, it depends on the girl....
I've found the more attractive the woman is, the more she'll love another man taking the dominant position away from you. Some of the uglier women might not be into it, heres why I think it is......
The girl by her evolutionary psychology needs to mate with the most dominant and alpha man. Kind of like when all the female lions relax with the alpha lion, then when he gets *******ed all the females will relax with the new alpha. Problem is women don't choose ONLY by how alpha the male is but how COMMITTED he will be once she has him. This is why a woman doesn't run off with every alpha man out there.. she needs to know he will provide for her after they've had sex or maybe even the kid. So unlike the attractive woman who has a in-flow of alpha males in her life, the uglier girl needs to PRESERVE her alpha males social value in her eyes and everyone elses and not let it drop..so in those situations she will PROTECT HIM.
I've also found the bigger the BOOBS and sexier the body she has the more likely she will love the new man taking the more dominant position. So even if she is ugly but has a hot body and tits.. she will be into it. This is for reamisters mentioned above how a good stream of alpha males come into her life. There is also a small percentage of ugly women who would be into it, but this is because they find STATUS highly attractive. These are the women who usually relax with the men of high status in society like bosses and men in authoritive positions. Every single one of your wives will fit into one of these categories. So a list of stuff you could do;
1. Go for Sex MORE. When she tells you she is tired, BEG FOR IT... when she still says no, REWARD HER for not giving you sex. This could be simple as cuddling and hugging her and telling her how much you love her.
2. Make the marriage a boring routine. Stop dating her, do the same things at the same time every day, becoming more of the friend then the sexual being..
3. Take her out to clubs and become jealous when another man hits on her. Tell her she can not talk to other men because these men are bad for her and you're better... (this will make her WANT other men more) or even your best friend, tell her HE IS BAD FOR HER
4. Wives always play subtle mind games, make sure you REACT to these and let her know she can tool you because you're now her bitch. (You never tell her this but it is assumed within the new relatonship dynamic)
SIGNS YOU ARE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS
- The frequent sex you both used to have is now DECREASING. She tells you she is tired most of the time.
- She starts hanging out with friends more or spends less time at home or even 'goes out with the girls' to a night club.
- Arguments begin to increase to intense levels.... (This is called resentment on her part) Make sure you argue with her and re-act. When she tells you you two can't have sex unless you apologise, APOLOGISE AND BEG FOR FOGIVENESS... let her REWARD you for good behaviour. This will start a interesting dynamic....
Everyone should post results about how they're getting on with my method....
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Ronald Curry
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Very interesting read. From experience I can vouch that the jealous method does indeed work. I was a jealous and possessive guy in my early years and that led to my gf in college to eventually cheat on me and disrupt our relationship by taking breaks. After she realized that the guy were good for sex but bad for relationships shed come crawling back and I would always accept her. Eventually she found someone and moved on.
My current wife is a bit of an enigma. We have kids together and she has one from a previous relationship. She swears that I am all she needs and that I satisfy her and whenever swinging has been casually brought up she said she couldn't go thru with it. There are some "alpha" males in her life. Most notably a coworker. She talks about him often but logistically I can not think of scenerios of an alleged affair. Between the kids and part time work and family life and the fact that he has a LTR with another coworker that he has defiled her.
Then I must consider our sex life. We both have high motors and crave sex. I have a performance issue where sometimes I just get soft, which frustrates her and I know will eventually lead her to a hotwife lifestyle. In the meantime, its close but hasn't happened yet atleast to my knowledge. Just this week we had an interesting sexual session. She was takes and wanted to be dominant. Dressed her up, gave her a whip etc. She even set up a mirror in the corner, suggesting I watch her play with herself while only watching the mirror. I started fucking her and she told me to get off and go in the corner. She started to play with her favorite toy and told me how "better" it was and how I can't fuck her good enough. This was a total mind fuck for me. She says that she needs to cum from a real cock. I hope that's a hint. Ronald Curry
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badboy_20055
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Ronald, you could have some form of party where the co-worker is invited, or join a work party your wife has. Now the next task is her co-worker needs to tool and dominate you in front of her. She needs to see that he is the most dominant and more alpha than you. This can be accomplished in many ways. It'll depend on what type of character he is. Some dudes will actively try to tool you playfully while others are not bothered and are fairly cool and normal.
One way he might attempt to tool you is getting you to hold his take. Accept it and hold his take for him while he talks to your wife. Accept any little task he gives you. He is attempting to take alpha status.
Remember to Hold the take for as long as possible while he talks to your wife in front of you. She needs to see that he is the most dominant and more alpha than you. If he tries to tool you verbally, take it very seriously and let your face flinch like he just shook your world with the comment. What will happen is, your wife will then laugh and he will say ' Im only kidding' and that is pretty much the alpha male switch. Another option is to go get him a take while your wife is not looking... make it SEEM like he asked you and you went and complied with such request.
Now if he is just a super cool guy who is laid back then he might not attempt to tool you. This is kind of a difficult one but can be rectified. If he makes no attempt to tool you then it'll be a little harder, maybe you could attempt to tool him and REACT when he makes a attempt to tool you back. The same effect will be in place.
You could then tell your wife that you think he is BAD FOR HER. Tell her she better not be flirting with him. What you're doing is catagorising him as the BADBOY SEXUAL THREAT while you are the jealous nice guy boyfriend.
What will ramp up results is not having sex with her too, so she is extra horny. Now its EXTREMELY IMPORTANT that you never reject her for sex or she'll become more attracted to you..... so maybe a way to build up to that is going for sex often and when she rejects, beg her a little. Sex should then slowly decline as she becomes less attracted to you and fantasizing about being fucked by mr alpha in the office.
- The more you tell her NOT to do something, the more she will fantasize about doing it.
** Again a warning is needed here. These techniques WILL WORK and are dangerous to your relationship. Heed the warnings.
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Ronald Curry
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Very erll thought of plan. Its crazy enough to work as the logic is very sound. The warning is true, that is something that could work. Especially when one of the key ingredients is holy water which both of them enjoy using. This guy is perfectly positioned to take my wife as soon as the opportunity presents itsled. He does have alpha tendencies unless he's some closted weirdo who enjoys some bizarre cuckolds brownie. Bigger dude who goes to the gym and has a lot of attributes my wife finds attractive. I permisterally think that swinging would work well in our relationship but that her jelousy traits would not allow that. It is her main objection anytime swinging is brought up and very consistant when having to comment solo to me, in front of company, and when cuckold watered up. I would really like to see her being sexed up by someone. She definetely respects me and sees me as alpha which I am. But happen to enjoy this lifestyle and yearn for it. Ronald Curry
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maba
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I agree with Slemx. The communication between partners should be fully. With or without talking. If there is no communication it's cheating and has nothing to do with cuckolding. Of course can cheating change in cuckolding but that is another story.
What if a cuck always physical participates? Then you can call it a threesome as well. But if he participates and his wife tells him, while she starts fucking, to leave the room? It is difficult to define....
It is not necessary the cuck knows always when and where his wife has sex. Sometimes he finds it out himself, for example by smelling or finds a strained panty. For me is cuckolding if a man is sexual under control and is not allowed to have sex with other woman. The cuckold has an adulterous wife and the only thing he can do is to accept his situation.
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WannabeDom
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My wife and I are BDSM Switches and like being both Dominant and submissive. We have both found that if we act a certain way, the other will want to switch after the scene is done. For example, If I am Dominating her, she will desire to be more Dominant a couple of hours after our scene is done. The same goes for me. If she is Dominant to me, I will want to assume a Dom position afterwards. So, I can see where the reverse psychology comes into play.
I find myself in the position you portray for a potentially cuckolded husband. In our everyday life, I am a tool for her and she talks to me in a rude way in about half of our conversations. I in turn, act submissive and apologize and have learned not to argue back. The one thing I would have going against me is that she already knows that cuckolding me would turn me on. I guess I have to become more jealous and try to convince her that I DON'T want her to cuckold me. It's the same as when she is being mean to me and I suggest I just be her slave. She won't do it to me or put me in that position because she knows I would sexualize it and enjoy it in a sexual way.
I still find myself wanting her to be my slave as she was when we were dating so I am unsure if I want to pursue this fully and become her cucked bitch with the possibility of leaving me. Decisions, decisions...
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deryckt
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Badboy,
An amazing thread, thank you. I have always been uneasy with the contradiction of the husband who encourages his wife to cuckold him (which is what I did) and consequently now skip over the majority of posts on this site for that reamister. You've really hit the nail on the head. My wife now provides minimal information about her liaimisters with her current bull and it feels more like a genuine affair. I also suspect that she is talking to others; her profiles on Ashleigh Madimister & Marital Affair are active again. With a previous bull, the 2 did fall in love but sadly decided to end things. It was an amazing time (for me!).
Please do keep contributing your views on this subject, they are as powerful as they are difficult and dangerous.
Very Best,
Deryck "We reveal ourselves through the language that we use."
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Masters_1950
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As badboy made clear at the begining of this thread "real" cuckolding is all about cheating; put simply the wife fucks another man behind her husband's back. Arriving at some sort of consensual arrangement beforehand makes it "lifestyle" or "fetish" cuckolding or a menage a trois. While many of the emotions felt by the husband may be similar in each situation the dynamics are totally different.
In a "real" cuckold situation the wife seduces or is seduced by another man without her husband's knowledge, consent or participation. She participates in the full knowledge that if discovered her marriage will be at risk, depending on her motivation she may not even care. Motivation for adultery will vary depending on the woman and her situation.
In my wife's case our youngren were beginning to leave home, she was approaching an early menopause, she thought my interest was waning (I was ill at the time), communication between us was at an all time low, and she was hit on by a younger guy and was flattered by the attention. I believe she was, in a sense, set-up, as the young guy was mentored by a colleague. When he fucked her I think she was thrilled to discover how much bigger his cock was and delighted to learn that he was a repeater. The affair lasted sometime but after a while she couldn't cope and felt the need to confess her adultery. She made it clear she was not going to give her new man up and though she didn't see a long-term future in it wanted to continue the affair whether I agreed or not. This relationship was important to her and she was devastated when he broke it off. She'd arranged to go to a hotel with him and stay over night while I looked after the younger youngren; they were to meet down the road from our house and he just left her standing there. To add insult to injury the local whore stopped and asked her if she needed a lift into town.
I was devastated by her infidelity and have never completely recovered. She found deception difficult and, because of the way the relationship ended, she also felt used and humiliated. As a result she began to see me in a new light. She had had sex with other men before our marriage and had certainly been groped by others on many occasions, sometimes in front of me. But now, outwardly at least, she has become a total prude. My reaction to the situation was to fuck her every day for over 12 months. I took voluntary redundancy at this time and we eventually moved away from the area; she had told me all the places she and this guy had fucked so I was constantly being reminded of the affair just driving around our locality.
Seeing her being fucked by another man was always a fantasy of mine and she knew that but never had any intention of pandering to my fantasy. In the early years we would often discuss sex and our fantasies but that all stopped after the affair. I still fantasise about her having sex with other men and can now truly picture it happening (I met the guy more than once) but cannot envisage a situation where I would be allowed to watch even if she decided to cuckold me again.
No, the "reality" of being a cuckold is totally different to the fantasy or the cuckold fetish lifestyle.
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WannabeDom
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The only other danger is that your wife will follow along with what is said above and have the affair without you ever knowing it. But then, what is the fun in that? She will have her affair, the relationship will falter and dwindle to nothing and you will end up divorced without ever having the satisfaction that she had an affair. That would kind of suck. LOL
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badboy_20055
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Well of course this is when the cuckold lifestyle comes into play, she has cucked you from the DOMINANT position opposed from 'doing it because you like it' Real cucking. Lol
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younglover84
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I agree 100% with u badboy but be careful what kind of advices u let free out there. This is not for everybody, those are very powerful things that can ruin very easily one's relationship.
I think that cuckolding in the form that u described is most probably something the husband/bf can experiment once in a life time with the same partner. Why? very easy, if the sexual activities are coz of the bull/lover or of the wife than the cuckold most likely will pass over it, of course he will take his emotional state out of it and after, this can continue over and over again with the same excitement for all the parties involved but if the husband, deliberate, will loose all his High Value in his woman eyes than it will be a road to hell for him to regain that value (in my opinion only a well trained man can pull this off with success). don't play with one's mind unless u are fucking sure of what u're doing!
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hot4it31
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I agree That is what happened to me but in my case I stopped going to her work functions leaving her opening to the advances of the alpha males that show works with. Eventually it happened and she started having an affair with some muscle bound stud. She would sit up all night texting each other and going across the road from her job to the holiday inn for an afternoon of kinky hard sex. He was that brazen he would text her while she was sitting next to me.
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younglover84
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HOT. tell us more about it. don't play with one's mind unless u are fucking sure of what u're doing!
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subman
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Just found nd this and its 4 yrs old but maybe badboy_20055 is still around. You say withdraw sex but also beg for it. Can you clarify ?
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SheDatesHeWaits
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badboy_20055: Real cuckolding is when either another man has your wife cheating on you without permission or your wife one day tells you she is cheating on you and you are now her cuckold bitch. This thread starts off with another wannabee projecting HIS version of "real cuckolding" onto everyone else. Not only are you making assumptions that everyone has your tastes and desires... it's just plain rude. There are many variations of cuckolding. None are more "real" than others. Your wife does NOT have to be cheating on you without your knowledge in order for it to be cuckolding... and the cuck does not have to be her "bitch". That sort of stupidity never ends on these boards. The OP also has his definitions completely out of whack, with his interpretation that cuckolding is really "swinging" if your wife has sex with others because you want it. However, the very definition of cuckolding is a wife having sex with someone other than her husband. It doesn't matter whose idea it was. Swinging is the practice of couples swapping partners. The whole thread starts off with GIGO... Garbage In, Garbage Out. cuckold - Pronunciation - kuk-uhld - noun 1) The husband of an unfaithful wife. 2) A husband whose wife has sex with others. NOTE - It does NOT say: Sexually confused, submissive, humiliated, sissified, crossdresser, cocksucker, or piss drinker
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davetb2006
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I have to agree with SheDatesHeWaits, however I also appreciate that there are as many interpretations of cuckolding as there are posters on the board. I think that the OP is projecting his theory to gain validation for his specific needs or desires. Nothing wrong with that, let's face it, most people will be looking at the site nursing a hard on for their particular style, and I like to read them all to see if anything rings any of my/our bells.
All experiences ARE valid though, and each person's reaction to them is interesting to me. I really enjoy the descriptions of how each relationship evolved into cuckolding (or not), and I am really interested in what compels us in this direction.
In this case I see "the REAL way" described would be detrimental to most relationships, and that does nothing for me. Not all relationships can survive cuckolding, and I'm sure that even the strongest has had some issues where it has not been plain sailing. Ours has had issues, and we made many mistakes, but even some of the memories which at the time were not great, have been turned into some of my favourites. We evolve, and my little head has managed to conquer my big head though appreciating the (mild) *********** of some of our experiences.
We will have been a couple for forty years in May, married for thirty-five, and in our case it started three months into our relationship - when I went on a pre-planned holiday with a friend and missed her sixteenth birthday, so she went out dr1nking with her friends, and tried to make me jealous by making out with a guy. There was a lot of confusion for us over the next few years, as we tried to work out our feelings. No internet resources to help in 1976, although we did discover Fiesta magazine a while later, which really helped.
I wonder how many come to this site already having had some experience, no matter how small, trying to find a re4son for their feelings? Does anyone find out about cuckolding on the internet and think "That looks interesting, I'll give that a go". Doubtful, but maybe...
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davetb2006
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*hum1liation. (I was starting to ramble there)
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Hardfirsttimer
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I completely agree with you guys about cheating. It should be about her wants and needs, not being entertainment for the lesser guy. Ive always felt the other guy should be one she cheats with.
I was cheated on in college by my gf of two years. She slept with two different guys (separately, not 3sums) on multiple occassions for the last year we were together. She confessed this as we were breaking up. It turned me on sooo much and i begged her to tell me about it and times she did it to see if i could remember specific times. Needless to say, i remembered times she had just finished fucking when I saw her.
Now, im married, just not to her.
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