Why??? So Negative!!! :Please take a minute and read and reply, thanks

We (wife and I) are curious why there are so many more fantasies/videos about interracial cuckoldry than same race cuckoldry. My wife and I are not against allowing black men to have sex with her.

Also to having a baby to solely humiliate someone else (the husband) is sub-human not kinky, your bringing a life into the world and that should be done in love not in malice or to boost your own ego.

And why the term cuckold seems to be viewed poorly for the husband in most people's eyes. This tends to put the wife in a terrible human being role treating her husband very bad, thats not kinky, its criminal!

I guess, I nor my wife wants me to be a "cuckold" as it is mainly viewed here on this and most wife sharing sites but we(wife and I) want to allow others to partake in an erotic experience with us (my wife and I) Whether I participate or just watch.

My wife and I are one and for someone to have erotic experience with one of us is to have have it with both of us, hint the term "Sharing" its not someone else taking the place of the other partner, in this case "the cuckold husband".

The wife and I do play femdom games which gives us the chance to Switch roles, me from the normal Dominate Husband to the sex slave of his goddess Wife, and her from the more submissive wife to the controlling Mistress, so we are not against Women in control so please don't misunderstand our views.

We want to hear all views about this and hopefully get some like views on the subject. And maybe change the way "Cuckold" is viewed.

Totally agree with you.
I have seen some wives in here with the sole aim is to destroy their husbands!
Them affected by hormones and reduces to nothing think that she loves them or something.
It's a cycle the more they are hurt , the more they eroticise their pain as a defense mechanism.
I have read some threads about ***s, penectomy, castration, permanent damage, total denial of pleasure, etc.
They might they like it now, but I wonder if they ever wake up and realise that it only goes downhill.

Thing is most heavy and extreme fantasies are usually written by men writing with one hand, but there are a few cases where it's real, and I wonder if they will ever wake up...

Very good questions that would need a book to answer my friend. I agree with you on many aspects, but as humans we tend to blur the lines and lump everything under 'Cuckoldry', I've complained about this many times and have been very vocal about the perversity it has taken on.

It actual effect people, mostly males are using the 'Cuckoldry' term as an umbrella for ALL perversions that have nothing to do with actually being cuckolded.

Somebody stoopid will next have a topic of 'I've-just-been-cucked-by-my-tin-of-beans-in-the-cupboard' next....wait for it...

There is no science to cuckoldry, in fact it's a part of human nature from all ages; in modern times it is now a shared experience and has taken a less taboo role in life. It just depends on where your morality is at, and how low you want it to go.

As for the extreme cuckoldry aspect, it's just sick; from either party. Enough said.
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*Thanks Darklebanese and Shamusx for your comments.

I knew we were not alone in the way my wife and I feel about wife sharing (dare to say cuckoldry).
I've actually came across similar thread posts here asking why Cuckoldry have got so PERVERSE and Dark?!

In discussing the subject and what we both want with my wife, one rule she really likes is I, her husband, have cut-in rules where if I want what the guy is having (pussy, ass, mouth) I get to have it! So it becomes about us and he is there as her playtoy! (Her words)

We would like to hear more views on the subject.
Thanks

Thank you kuepol!!! My wife & I feel the exact same way. We already feel isolated enough, that we can't share this part of our life with any friend/s. We just want some kink in OUR Relationship. If we bring someone else (Or a football team) into our sex life, it's still "Our" sex life. My Wife loves me & I her. The whole point of this for us is to have fun with her being pleased totally (every hubby here wants to see his wife in total pleasure {who doesn't want his Wife to feel awesome!}) & our "Bi" issues (more mine but.......whatever! She has some too!!!!!!!!......Don't judge me!!!!!!! lol).

It's hard enough to accept this lifestyle in today's society & we really could do without the "Wife hates her hubby & wants to make him pay" mentality. I realize that people have that fantasy as well but it seems to really make it hard for those of us that don't. Imagine asking the wife to do some research on Cuckold Lifestyles.........then think what she would get if she typed Cuckold into Google............... probably not what you want for her first experience into that topic. My wife loved me so much....that even when I knew she was into it, she wouldn't entertain it because she respected our marriage that much . How awesome is that?!

We aren't there quite yet but we will progress into it holding hands (& other parts) not beating each other's (outside spankings ;-} ) emotions.

I guess I just want to say "We hate the "Stigma" as well"

Thanks keupol

kuepol et all,

You guys obviously have little to no idea what the word cuckold means today or classicly. It [b]isn't[b] "wife sharing". That's something differant. If thats what you like, fine but cuckolding has far more in relation to a Dom/sub scene than some people seem to want to grasp. So get a clue please because your "understanding" of cuckoldry is in the minority. Wife sharing is differant so to bitch that what you see and read here isn't wife sharing is sort of obtuse and I can only offer up a "well du'h" in response.

Also the thinly veiled criticism of the majority of content on this site didn't go unnoticed. There are plenty of wife sharing sites out there. Go find em.

The one thing I've learned about this, or any lifestyle I have enjoyed or thought of enjoying, is that everyone has a different point of view as to what exactly it means to them. As with anything there are extremes and moderates. I can see a post popping up in contrast to this wondering why people think simply sharing their wives without the offense is actual cuckolding (check the post above mine for a glimpse of what I'm talking about). Whatever the case is, isn't it best to enjoy your relationship with your significant other in whatever way you all decide and either sharing it here (or on any site of your choice) instead of trying to put someone else down for what is obviously perfectly fine in their relationship. When it is not agreed on by both parties you will see post asking for assistance in that area.

So, whether you believe wife sharing where you know everything and aren't "replaced" is cuckolding or not, the best thing about the lifestyle is just like "vanilla" relationships, they are all handle and decided between the parties involved. If you understood them, you'd more than likely be in the boat next to them. Enjoy, share your thoughts about YOUR experiences (it IS what keeps the site going) but pointing fingers and calling names is a simple case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Just a little correction here cpl4fun13....I think 90% of this site is about FANTASY rather than EXPERIENCE.

Cukolding is by definition when a wife is having extramarrital affairs. Meaning: she is fucking someone else. The CUCK is her husband

It does not say anything (as far as I know) about her hubby is knowing about it, if he is knowing and waiting at home, participating (as in wife sharing (MMF)...there are other forms of wife sharing as e.g. that two men relax with one of the men's wife with or without husband being present), if he is eating creampies, being a sissy, having a little dick, interracial, being humiliated, or all other extreme/none-extreme options

As for me, cuckolding without consent from hubby is unfaithfulness and noe acceptable. If (and I hope) my GF should ever do something like this, I would hope (and only accept) is she did it as a part of OUR GAME.

My "thing" (call it fantasy (which I share with my GF)) is that she fuck somone else by herself, and come back to me telling all details...no chastity, offense, sissy-stuff, or other more "extremes". That's what works for me/her....and the aim of the GAME is varity, new perspecitves, love, hot sex with eachother, hot sex for her with other men, more love...and not at least...TRUST

I believe that the aspect of being a cuckold has some kind of offense in it (like the horns which often is a symbole of being a cuck (see e.g. the logo of this site))...the term "putting horns on one's husband" has as i understand a historic meaning that in some societies horns were put on men (literally or not) who's wife had fucked someone else...it was sort of him being in shame....). Today, according to statistics: most partners in a marriage is fucking around....so is it still a humiliating thing that you wife has fucked someone else? I don't know..

Anyway, I think the cuckold term has such a wide range of meanings for so many different people

If a married couple has common friends (or wife with consent has friends herself) that from time to time fuck the wife for all parties benefit and pleasure, and all parties respect eachother and have fun, I think there is another term that is more appropriate: FWB (friends with benefits)....maybe as an alternative to cuckolding, wifesharing, and others

If you try to google "FWB" you will find more "moderate" web sites

As for me: let people have their dreams and experiences. I have mine

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A cuck to my GF - A bull to all other women

Well said Norwegian! But if I may dissent on a small point and riff on it a bit:


Actually, strictly speaking cuckolds do not know of and/or consent to their wife's "infidelity," at least the way the word was used from the middle of the 13th century until its quite recent appropriation by our fetish community. For those who do know what their wives were up to, there is another word wittol, which actually means "knowing cuckold." The difference between the two words was pithily summed up by no less than John Barth in the 20th Century, who wrote "only the wittol knows he is no cuckold."

The term cuckold was also derogatory from its inception, and a humiliating thing to be called or thought by others. (Think of epithets like "loser" or "sissy.") This negative color of the word is one of the reamisters it is used for our delightful modern fetish. It is this shade of offense/loss-of-face that distinguishes cuckolding from related and overlapping forms of non-monogamous pairing such as "wife swapping," "swinging," "polyamory," etc.

Of course the intensity and manifestation of the offense can vary greatly, the way that suspenseful movies can run the gamut from dramas just tense enough to keep you absorbed and make you think about the vagaries of life to those that terrify the audience with over-the-top shocks. But, if someone feel no dimension at all of shame, or offense, or regret, or loss when they watch there partner with another I don't see how they can be considered a cuckold. They may be a voyeur; they're spouse an exhibitionist. They may be any of the categories I mentioned above or others. But if they don't feel anything along these lines, of they just want to "share an erotic experience" in a kind of 1970's "sex is to share good and nothing to be ashamed of" kind of way, where is the offense that is definitional to cuckolding?

So, speaking directly to kuepol's main point:


It seems that kuepol, stout a fellow as he appears to be, may not be into the fetish of cuckolding at all. (I note for instance his conflation of "cuckolding" with "wife sharing" as if they are synonymous.) People who are fond of Elizabethan or Restoration poetry use phrases like "oh Mistress mine," and "love's slave" all the time without being into BDSM. Men buy their wives t-shirts that say "boss," and "princess," and "she who must be obeyed," without being into FemDom. so instead of "chang[ing] the way "Cuckold" is viewed," kuepol, you might consider whether your usage of the term isn't just different from that of those of us into the fetish and live and let live.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Thats awesome b/c that was what I forgot to also point out in detail that when you bring the subject up with your spouse and then goes to research the topic, there is usually nothing but the DARKSIDE of cuckoldry.


Very similar with us. Difference is she likes the idea,not as much as I do, but she says she would never want to do anything w/o me present/involved and she also says she would be OK with just ME.

MrsBlackBlowupDoll
Some good points you have...
Maybe it is a misconception to think even wife sharing is even related to cuckoldry.

BUT Ive always thought, and I know I'm not alone on this, that wife sharing was the loving way to cuckold, leaving out offense/impregnation and other DARK fetishes. Because when you wife share, you may or may not be present also if your present you may or may not be an active participant, then similarities to cuckoldry appears again.

Thanks again for active discussion.

I think this defines it pretty close, whether your into the Dom/sub kinks involved or just moderate with loving wives.

Thanks luvmygirl!

I agree with you too!

Cuckolding has been hijacked by the BDSM club! So called Race himiluation adds to their Sub/Dom Fetishes .If you want to move away from that type of cuckolding look into the Hotwife lifestyle whereby there is no sub/Dom relationship between the Hotwife and Hotwifer (Hubby).

A fair point 4inches. What also didn't go unnoticed were the complaints by some on the thread (though not in kuepol's original post) about the presence of "extreme" material on this site.

I'd like to address that point.

Like everyone, some things on this site appeal to me, some do not. Some things bore me, some disgust a bit. As it happens, most of the things I do like run to the extreme end of the fetish. I find it frustrating to plow through the mild and tame stuff, some of which I really find repulsive in its way, and I imagine those who like that stuff feel the same about some of the content I enjoy.

The difference is in the reaction. Here's what I do: When I find a thread or a forum that is not for me, I leave it and try to find one that is. Next time I don't go back to the one I did not like. The other thing I don't do is spoil things for the people enjoying the lame (uh, I mean "tame") thread by commenting how crappy I think it is or suggesting they are destroying the site, etc. Indeed I've never bothered (until now) to criticize the content that is not my cup of tea.

This is not the case for many (though surely not all) of those who are similarly offended by what I and others like me enjoy. Every time there is a good, hot, extreme thread going, someone with tamer tastes feels it necessary to give us all a moralizing pop-psychology sermon about how wrong and evil it all is, how we are destroying ourselves, or marriages, blah, blah. Almost as bad are the posts that condescendingly volunteer to us extreme fetishists their tolerance (as if it is a gift) but "have to say" how much they disapprove and/or aren't into this. (Even though they are reading and posting on the given thread.)

I don't mean here kuepol, who handled this the right and respectful way, in my opinion, by creating a new thread topic for the discussion in an appropriate forum. (And look at the result. Mostly a respectful and laid-back discussion.) I wish more critics of the "extreme" behaved this way. But what is the deal with people who come to fetish site, go to a forum like "impregnation," say, find a thread marked "wife and I putting together black breeding party" or some such thing and then tut tut at the people there enjoying themselves? Here's how I handle it: IR and Impregnation stuff is mostly not very interesting to me so I don't generally go to or open that thread. And if I do for some reamister, and I don't like it, I just move on because, no you don't "just have to say." You can switch the channel as it were and go read and post on a forum and thread that speaks to you and leave other people alone.

And then everyone can enjoy their own thing in peace and harmony.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

mikdebbs
Thanks my point exactly and my wife likes the idea of being a 'Hot' HotWife!

Thanks MrsBlackBlowupDoll

The reamister I even posted this topic, believe it or not, was to just understand not to judge or make others fell bad about themselves/their choices/lifestyle.

Going back to the original post it was mainly about the actual acts of the extreme within cuckoldry and us not understanding why. And I would never high-jack someones thread and start judging them.

The wife and I like certain aspects of cuckoldry w/o all the additional kinks involved, i guess that's the best way to say it.

This developed to be a nice and interesting treath

Maybe another issue may be brought on the table here?

It seems often that some "Cucks" here are more into eating cream pies and sucking the Bull's cock, and that this looks like the BIG thing for them (not all....some)...this maybe in the extreme part of "cuckolding", even on this site...but...

...does this have something to do with cuckolding, or is this all about men who are married, but missed the homo part of themself?? Sort of using "cukcolding" and their wifes in a big game just to have themself some cock to play with?

Just asking....there are a lot of strange fetishes here...all under the term "cuckolding"....and as I said before: if this may be termed "cuckolding" and some of us like that...go on....I will not open these treahts....but scroll down to one more interessting for me

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A cuck to my GF - A bull to all other women

norwegian

I think i mentioned this before but for the wife and I got started on the idea of cuckoldry, when the wife asked me to lick her pussy after I had just finished having sex and she was not done and wanted more.

I was not shocked at the idea but of the idea my loving/submissive wife thought of the idea herself (and I did ask her where she got the idea, from girlfriend, etc and she said that it was just to get more sensation after intercourse). We enjoy having the same fantasies and sexual desires, She fueling mine and Mine fueling hers, our sex life wasn't bad or lacking before but now its more like when we first got together, like a rocket!

So to respond directly to norwegian's views/questions;
I dont think, I'm not, you have to be gay to eat creampies from your Wife.

But I am unsure what the motivation would be to suck a bulls cock, maybe if its done during or after intercourse with your wife, it could be something the wife asked to happen getting her husband more involved. If my wife asked me to do it I would say no to the idea and come up with another idea but some couples might like the idea.

Since this is a "fringe" site/ideology/life choice I find it strange how just like in the "normal" world many people on this site and the others like it want to put everyone involved in a box. For example:
The wife-white and an insatiable slut
The husband-wimpy and unable to protect let alone satisfy the wife
The bull-black, dominant, uncaring about women and their feelings but rather simply using them for sexual gratification and use

This set of stereotypes could not be further from the truth. From my experience the impetus for people beginning in this sexual lifestyle/exploration is simply a desire to engage in new fantasies and scenarios together as a couple. The husband/wife or bf/gf simply want to expand their repertoire. All of the relationships that I know of and have been involved with as an additional participant are based on love, respect and a healthy sexual appetite and unwavering trust. The partners want to please each other even when that means allowing another to serve a sexual need.

Getting into specific acts like creampie eating or BDSM simply relate more to either an act of love or a fantasy fufilled than a particular partners sexual orientation. Are all women that hold their girlfriends hands, hug them or kiss them and cuddle all of sudden bisexual or lesbians...of course not. When a man eats his own cum from his wife or girlfriend is he all of sudden craving cum or cocks or want o abandon the joys of the female form...of course not.

I have always been one who has tried to live and let live. If something wasn't for me I always have the ability to say no and move along (just like everyone else). I do not need nor want to berate another for their choices or desires or fantasies so long as they do not affect my life. (I would think all of us can agree that who every permister on the planet is fucking or sucking (outside of our significant other) has no baring on whether we are getting up in the morning going to work, paying taxes, getting our car repaired, paying our mortgage, etc. Live and let live...fuck and let fuck. I thought this was all about fun, sex and excitement. Not judgement and stereotypes.
Nothing makes a man feel better than pleasing or being pleased by a woman. Try it...you might like it.

Being a cuckold is more than just being a husband to a wife that cheats on him without his knowledge. In that case she's just an adultress. At the core of cuckoldry lies offense. According to history, the wife takes a lover and the whole village knew about it with the husband the last to know. What greater offense is there than everyone knowing that the husband is unable to satisfy his wife, and that she prefers the sexual company of another man. Upon discovering this infidelity, the husband chooses to suffer his wife's infidelity and stay in a relationship where he is clearly in 2nd place. It's really a hopeless love story.

Once that premise is complete, it's really a Baskin Robbin's 31 flavors of offense injected into this particular kink from there. It seems to be essential in this fantasy that a big cock will trump a little dick everytime. If you have a little dick, there is just no way that you can please a woman over a man with a larger dick. It seems to be essential for the cuckold to exist in a state of hopelessness. He has a little dick therefore, he is a distant 2nd. The cuckold craves to believe this myth. In reality of course nothing could be further from the truth. A woman's G-Spot is 3 inches from her vaginal opening. Indeed, a 3-4 inch penis with a healthy curve will scratch the G-Spot better than a huge long cock ever could as the small dick'd man will also be rubbing her clit with his pubic bone as well. If a cuck does not please his wife better than her lover, it's because he chooses not to, but it seems essential to believe he just can't because he just doesn't have the right equipment.

From my permisteral experience, I've had an affair with a woman that was married to a man with a huge dick. she actually shuttered when I asked her to tell me how big it was. This guy was big and thick. She much preferred my 5-6 inches, good looks, charm, wit, etc. She also much preferred to suck my cock, something she would not ever do for him. He had an inkling about us, and came to me and actually pleaded with me to stay away from his wife. She actually stopped having sex with him at my request. So, who was the bull in that threesome?

The fact is, for any cuck who tries to make this fantasy real, he will always be topping from the bottom. The cuck will always be in charge, and any so called bull will know it. He's the bull because the cuck has sanctioned it and given permission. The cuck not only dominates the wife but the bull as well. It's over when he says it's over.

"So why so negative" If you view offense as negative, then I guess it's negative to you, but cuckoldery is a offense based fantasy. It is not "wife sharing" by any stretch even though that is what is physically happening. Cuckoldery is a sophisticated psychological complex that superior males often crave because they are just so damn fabulous in so many aspects of their lives, offense is actually arousing because it's so rare in their real life.

nyslutboy,
Thanks for sharing your views.

manray
thanks for sharing your point of view, which is different from permister to permister.
But if you read my first post, we didnt understand why it had to be extreme beyond the simple offense of the act itself.

Manray...thanks for that perspective. I think you are right in many ways. Of course, all cucks have their own history, but this way of thinking fits my situation pritty well

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A cuck to my GF - A bull to all other women

I used to fantasise about sharing my wife with other men. I think I viewed this as a voyeuristic rather than a submissive act. Then my wife committed adultery, making me a cuckold and, after the event, using my interest in her having sex with other men as her justification. But the whole point for me was to share by givining her to another man and watching them have sex. Though the affair ended after a few months the adultery hurt and even many years after the event I still can't get the image of his cock sliding in and out of her out of my mind and would still like to see it happen for real. The big difference now is that I also fantasise about being used and used by both of them. My fantasy is no longer voyeuristic it is submissive.

Here is a perspective for you: stop judging.

If you like it...great. If you don't...move on to another thread or post or forum or site.

We get judged enough by "normal" society...we don't need people judging from within. If you don't like the pregnancy aspect, don't track it. If you don't like the interracial aspect, don't track it. If you don't like the offense aspect, again...don't track it.

That's cool. You also had a question about:


To answer this you need to remember that the cuckold fetish is offense based. Before I go any further, I feel compelled to mention that I voted for Obama and have no problem witha black man as my commander and chief even though I've been a conservative republican for my whole voting experience, and will vote for him again certainly over the current insanity that's pervading the republican party. But we're talking about arousal mechanisms in the white male mind here, and much of that stuff is rooted in the subconscious mind. No matter how progressive we are and how far we've come in our current society, there are still vestiges of how black people were percieved in the past in our minds, and that's that they are an inferior race. What's more humiliating to a cuck than his wife being taken sexually by a man with a bigger dick than his, but also by a man of color whose race was long thought inferior to whites in this country. Again, it's just a offense thing and that's the explanation for all the interracial fantasy stuff going on here. What's more humiliating to the cuck than losing his wife to a black man (thought to be the inferior race in the past) with a huge dick (the symbol of manliness)? The answer: Not much. Sucking on Tyrones huge dick to get it ready for his wife, and cleaning out Tyrones cum from his dear wife's vagina with his tongue is all just a symbol to show his wife how much he worships and adores her, to show her what he would endure just to be a small part of her life.

Plus, biologically it's very arousing to a man to compete for his female, and it's why this particular fantasy injects so much jet fuel into a marriage that even though it's loving, the passion may be waning a bit.


It's viewed badly because, really, normal people cannot fathom the perspective of the cuck. The whole cuck fantasy involves creating the "given circumstances" to show his wife how much he worships and adores her. So, in it's more extreme form, we have a wife that does not desire the husband, belittles him, makes fun of his little dick (the symbol of his manhood) and turns him into little more than a servant to her and her lover, and if he's good she may just flick his dick with her fingers so he can cum in a puddle at her feet while she passionately kisses her Tyrone. These cruel (criminal circumstances as you say) must exist so the cuck can display just how deeply he adores and worships her. He is willing to destroy himself for her. If these circumstnaces didn't exist, just how could the husband show his wife how unconditional his love is for her? It's plain and simple, the cuck can not show his wife how much he worships her in the context of a vanilla relationship where both people are equals and respect each other in a conventional way. He worships her. He wants to hopelessly compete for her ...and lose. If a woman wants to be worshipped as a goddess, find a cuck.

In reality, this just really can't work, and no woman wants that kind of inequality in a relationship. It's not normal, and it's not healthy.

True, everyone is an individual and follows a somewhat unique path. Though, possibly not cucks, I'll share a couple of instances of people living the dream so to speak having some of the aspects of some fantasies talked about in this forum. These are true instances.

There was a man whose wife made him relax on the floor. He had to beg her for just a little money even to buy cigarettes. You can imagine what else went within the confines of those walls. Long story short. He *******ed her. Ah, living the dream.

Just recently someone told me of one couple. His bedroom was in the basement, and if he was good doing what he was told etc. he got to relax in "the big boy bed" with his wife (this actually happened). Well, he did something he wasn't supposed to and she beat him with a frying pan. I guess that was the last straw for him. He called the police, and she served him with divorce papers.

Who knows how these situations evolved into what they were, but it simply does not work. Eventually you ejaculate, and then the long knifes come out.

manray

Very informative, from the last couple posts.

Humiliation, I guess, is a part of it - as every guy who delivers his gf or wife has at least one external witness: the bull. The amount of the offense accepted or wanted depends on the couple, in terms of letting other people know too (as, for instance, when they do it in some hotel and the staff - as usual - notices what's going on inside the room). Also, when it's a residential building or neighbourhood where everybody tweaks on other people's lives. One further situation is when the preliminaries happen in a public place like a disco-club, and people notice that the guy kissing and touching the white girl is not her white partner, but the black guy who was already there before they arrived. Others like to tell the story afterwards, to make it public some way. If it adds to the mutual arousement and excitment, why not? The more, the merrier!

Note - that's only part of the several degrees of offense possible for the husband and wife, like crossdressing and taking part in the action as a 'second female', letting (or having) the bull humiliate your wife or gf by slapping her, fucking her hard and calling her bad words during action. Some people just love it!