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I found some info for those looking for a way to talk to your wife/gf about cuckolding. Obviously everyone takes things a little different. But if this helps some become cuckolds... Good luck...I hope this helps answer some questions.

To begin a dialogue with your wife about anything new and sexual can sometimes be a tricky subject to say the least because of the very nature of women themselves. Just coming right out and telling your wife that you want her to have sex with another man can send a strong signal and send up all sorts of red flags. She may feel that if you love her how can you want her to make love to another man. She may feel that you are suggesting this so that you can have permission to go out and make love to another woman and that thought may disgust her. As a general rule she will feel that something is seriously wrong with you and the relationship so hitting her with this suggestion straight forward can be a very hard thing for her to cope with.

The last thing any of us want is to damage our relationship or loose our loving wife. In fact quite the opposite is true. As with any sexual lifestyle a very strong and open communication is the key to making any relationship work.

The hotwife lifestyle should be talked about and entered into very carefully and even at best you can bet that unwanted emotions can expose its ugly head. Perhaps this article will serve one well and hopefully avoid the many pitfalls that can be associate with this and the other recreational sex practices.

Here are some things to help one begin to sexually explore themselves as a couple.

1. Get your wife to agree to one night a week that you can talk about sexual exploration. Topics like things the turn each other on. Sexual thoughts that cross one’s mind throughout the day etc. Be sure to set some guidelines that if either of you have hurtful or feeling of jealous that you will openly talk about those as well. Understand that if you are wanting her to try the hotwife lifestyle and you find out that she is attracted to a co-worker or your best friend that this can come with a range of emotional charge and you may find yourself being jealous or hurt and want to really give her a hard time over it. To the point of actually damaging a relationship. So be very careful what you want and ask for. After all women have sexual thoughts and fantasies too and their minds can be one step ahead of you. It is okay for you to be totally honest when you are talking. If you are turn on by something, go ahead and say “wow that turns me on” if it turns you on and hurts you, you may say “wow that turns me on and stings my heart, but this is good for us to talk” If the only feeling you have is pain, then it is okay to say “I love you so much but that hurts me and I want to get passed this in our relationship.” Having said that, beginning a hotwife lifestyle can be filled with a range of emotions as well as sexual excitement that will have to be balanced. Be careful as you do not want to move too fast as to damage anything in your relationship. After your night of talking regardless of how it turns out, positive or negative, the next day shower her with affection, do something special for her, and or buy here a nice card, flowers or a gift to show her how much you love her and appreciate her for taking time to explore with you. If feelings come up that are hard felt emotions it is ok, it is like getting to know each other all over again.

2. Once you have determined something that turns you both on as it relate to this lifestyle one may begin experimenting a bit. Set aside one night for her sexual fantasies and one night for yours. For example if she her turned on by a powerd sex fantasy, then you give her a night doing all the things that she desires. When it comes around to your night of hotwife exploration her are a few suggestions that you might like to try.

a. Have her to dress sexy and invite some guys over to watch a ballgame, or take her out to a dance, or invite a male friend over while she walks around is skimpy clothing. Do something that is relatively mild and fun with no pressure. Do not try to get her to do things that she does not want but let her set the speed. She will be gauging your response very closely.

b. After the male counterparts leave or you get back home then you can have her to play along with your fantasy and tell what she wanted to do.

c. After sex is over you can talk about your feelings and emotions and the same is true as before. The next day be sure to go the extra mile and show her how much you love and appreciate her for taking time to act out parts of the things that turns you on.

d. WARNING: Do not move too fast and never pressure her or she may run from this. Just plant the seed and play and be patient.

3. At this point the male should be very careful and not become obsessed with this. Men have a tendency to want things sooner rather than later. If you become obsessive about this could be set back in the exploration. So be careful and very patient with her. Talk about the fun times you have had. Deal with any emotions that come up and they will come up. Set more clear guidelines on dealing with emotions. EXAMPLE: “Baby the other night was the best and you were so damn sexy and I wanted you so badly knowing you turned other guys on.” Go ahead and define more guidelines about dealing with relationship issues and any emotions for either of you that may come up. At this point both of you must decide if you are going to continue to experiment with this lifestyle or not. If you both choose to continue then you can plan another night of fun. Below are some other ideas.

a. Rent a room at a nice hotel with a bar. Have her to dress sexy and go down to the bar a little while before you.

b. Have another friend’s night at your home and invite someone over that you both want play w

c. Give her a night out with her girlfriends and you stay at home and do housework.

d. Go to a dance as a couple and allow her to dance with other males if the opportunity presents itself.

e. Get her input on what she might like to do to make her feel like a woman. Both of you can be creative and create your own ideas.

4. After your night of explorations be sure to check the temperature of you and your mate. Continue talking about this lifestyle and one of you at this point maybe more into than the other. In fact you being a man may find that this lifestyle is not for you and she may be getting into it or vise versa. It is very important to keep a balance in the relationship before it goes too far. So after talking out the turn ons, turn offs, the pleasure the pain and getting a balance into the relationship one can decide to stop or continue on. If you decide to continue her are some ideas to further grow.

a. Time to allow her to go on a shopping trip to get her some things she wants to wear. It is fun shopping together. Most find that shopping online for clothes of a seductive nature is easier and more plentiful. Have her to visit some of the shops in our online shopping area and order her some nice things just for herself. You will get the benefits as well. Click here for online shopping.

b. Treat her to a day at a spa or beauty salon and have her to pamper herself and feel like a woman.

c. Let her plan her own night that she want to experiment with and you play whatever part you are told. At some point she will be taking charge so get used to the idea.

5. As with other step before take time to talk about this and all the elements, positives and negatives again and again. Never, never stop talking. It is essential in keeping a relationship strong and growing. You should have enough information to decide if this lifestyle is going to work in your relationship. Because after this step you will probably have yourself a real hotwife if you continue along the path. Her are something’s for a man to ask himself before continuing.

a. How am I going to feel knowing that my wife has another man inside her?

b. Am I really ready to share my wife’s body with another man?

c. How am I going to feel if my wife really enjoys sex with other men?


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FINAL: Before taking it to the final step set other guidelines and rules and it is okay even to come up with an individual agreement between both of you. An example agreement can be found by click here. Do not just use this agreement but make on very permisteral between you and your wife. Topics like dealing with jealousy issues. A fail safe clause whereas if any emotional issues come up that the lifestyle can be ceased for 60 -90 days by either party, etc. Just do whatever it takes to keep your relationship safe and sound. Because after you wife does get totally into this lifestyle she will be “glowing” with seductiveness and sex appeal and she will be empowered. And chances are that if you and her have a strong relationship she will be very involved into this and will be ready to take it to any level you want. So like I said in the beginning be careful what you ask for you may get it.
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Another find:

Part I
Introduction


Audience:

The guide is intended for perfectly normal women and men involved in a loving relationship . Couples interested in this lifestyle are in most cases married, but some are unmarried and involved in a serious long-term relationship. In this fantasy, the woman is encouraged to engage in sexual play with another partner. These adventures may be limited to cyber-flirtation or exhibitionism, or much more.
This guide is primarily written for beginners, mature in their views of sexuality, who are considering this next step. It also includes alternatives for those couples who don't feel comfortable making the fantasy a reality at this time.

You'll see that a sensible GO SLOW approach is suggested. Why? Because it allows the couple to maintain a sense of control as they explore their own deepest desires and those of their partners. In addition, it provides the opportunity to stop at any time if either partner feels uncomfortable.





Before we begin...

An important clarification must be made. This is not swinging. It is not "open marriage" which is simply another word for swinging. The author neither condones or supports the swinging lifestyle. Bringing the MFM or shared wife fantasies to life does not lead to swinging - at least not for me or anyone that has a sincere interest in this fantasy. Please look elsewhere if that is your interest.






Purpose

One of the most common questions on relationship bulletin boards or chat rooms that pertain to shared wife discussions is "Should we make this fantasy a reality?" or "How do we proceed?" or "How can I talk with my partner about my fantasy?". Many of these questions have no simple answer. Quite a number of the responses provided by fellow members in a discussion site such as The Hot Wife Forum , the Our Wives Forum are lacking in details, are simple come-ons or too risky for many. My goal is to present a common sense, approach with a few of do's and don'ts that will work for everyday couples.




Terminology

The terms "Hot Wife" and "Shared Wife" have similar meanings in the context of sexual relationships. Male-Female-Male (MFM) relationships is also used. The "hot" designation is by far the most popular. A few women that I have great respect for, object to the term "Hot Wife" for a couple of reamisters. First, they may not be married and second, they don't perceive themselves to be any more "hot" than other women and prefer the alternate terms instead. For these reamisters I will refrain from using the "hot" designation.

Shared Wife Or MFM Sex Defined

It is important to first explore what it is before we discuss how to arrange it. First a succinct definition:
A trusting relationship where a couple supports and encourages the women's sexual experimentation with another male partner, but maintains a strong emotional bond with one another.

MFM sexual experimentation may take several forms from rather benign flirtation to exhibitionism. These moderately erotic sexual activities are discussed in a later chapter. The bulk of this guide refers to a relationship that eventually leads to physical sex.

It is often said that this fantasy taps into the way men and women are wired. What is the driving power behind this desire for the man? For the women? Is It normal? Read on.


For the Women Readers

Changing gender roles in society make available more opportunities than ever before for women to pursue sexual relationships that transcend traditional boundaries. Women can now freely challenge repressive norms which have limited their options in the past to have more partners, while practically rewarding men to do the same. What's more, they will find support and even encouragement from their mates in the context of marriage or a serious long-term relationship.
To consider an MFM experience, whether is it serious flirtation or much more, provides a new dimension in sexuality. For mature couples, it can be both positive and mutually satisfying, with a little planning and forethought. The feeling of sexual power and confidence, by enticing two males into bed can be a huge turn on. As a rule, women are capable of outlasting any one man, and with a second partner she may be able to reach a previously unobtainable sexual high. The result is more often than not "memorable sex" that you both think fondly of and recall from time to time.

Of course, any major change in our sex lives can be cause for concern. It is with a certain amount of fear that most women begin their sex life or try a sex toy with their partner for the first time. But with each chance taken, new pleasures are often realized. All couples have initial feelings of intrepedation with MFM encounters, but those anxious moments fade away and are replaced by sexual joy.

SUGGESTED LITERATURE
For more information on women's sexuality, I would suggest any of the following:


The Ethical Slut: A Guide to Infinite Sexual Possibilities
by Dossie Easton and Catherine Liszt Greenery Press

Turn Ons: Pleasing Yourself While Pleasing Your Lover
by Lonnie Barbach, Ph.D. Plume

Best Women's Erotica
by Marcy Sheiner, Cleis Press

Women on Top: How Real Life Has Changed Women's Sexual Fantasies
by Nancy Friday Pocket Books

The Erotic Mind : Unlocking the Inner Sources of Sexual Passion and Fulfillment
by Dr. Jack Morin

Exhibitionism for the Shy : Show Off, Dress Up and Talk Hot
by Carol Queen

The Erotic Edge: 22 Erotic Stories for Couples
by Lonnie Barbach, Ph.D. Plume

Cyborgasm (Audio Cassette)
by Lisa Palac





Men and Women's Motivation

MEN'S MOTIVATION

The desire for a man to see his partner sexually experimenting with another is an "awakening" for him as his sexuality matures. This common fantasy comes about, perhaps unexpectedly, for many men and women as they age. Young men in their teens and early twenties do not typically have this desire. It seems to develop after a decade or two of sexual experience and can be a source of unbridled eroticism.

There are a variety of reamisters men may encourage their wives to sexually engage other men. If you're looking for a simple explanation, I have none to offer but I might suggest you read "Brain Sex, (Moir & Jessel, 1993)" or Sex on the Brain : The Biological Differences Between Men and Women (Blum, 1998) which contains bits and pieces of what makes men and women tick. There have been recent television specials on the Discovery channel such as "Brain Sex" that offer additional clues.

His desire to encourage his partner to explore sex with another man is driven by many complex and intertwined reamisters that even he may have difficulty verbalizing. The more common themes are explored here:

Unconditional love
Reliving past sex
New sex
Pure lust sex
Competition with other males
Cum fantasy
Sexual Control
Husband offense
Wife offense

Unconditional Love: In a trusting and loving relationship the man encourages her to have a pleasurable erotic sexual experience with another partner. He knows she will enjoy it immensely if she has his support. He may feel that she was cheated out of sexual experimentation that he engaged in as a young man prior to the current relationship. Essentially, it is an act of love, where he gives her something very special.

Reliving past sex: Most couples at some point explore her past sexual relationships through fantasy. She finds that her sexual history is a powerful source of eroticism for him. Many men discover their own desire for a shared wife experience in this manner.

New Sex: Sex with a new partner is often very highly charged and perhaps biological in nature. For nearly all couples, it is fondly remembered. Bringing another man into your relationship can result in a similar level of intensity that you experienced when you first shared one another - maybe greater. A woman who has been in a long term monogamous relationship will often behave as if she has been starved for sex when a new partner begins to engage in adult play with her. For a man, most of whom are very visual, the site of another male playing with his partner may cause uncontrollable arousal. The many "shared wife with another man" pictures posted on the web and related stories are strong evidence of this common and perfectly normal fantasy. Check out the Toy Box (couples section) or the many forums on this topic on Yahoo or Excite.

Pure lust sex: The sex a couple has over the years can be wild and passionate, but it is not exactly the same as the kind of sex she would have with someone she is not emotionally involved with. Pure lust sex has a different dimension. He wants to see that "desire for a stud" look in her eyes, driven by female hormones and natural instinct.

Competition: Male competition allows him to measure his ability to stimulate his mate against another male. A darker side of this fantasy is impregnation competition. Men are evolutionary designed for this as a penis is shaped to pull out the semen of another and replace it with his own. I do not promote or condone impregnation. Another area of competition is penis size. More on that later.

Cum fantasy: As part of nearly all pair bonding relationships in the mammal world, males want sole access to their mate's sexual zones, and specifically for the deposition of semen. This is a sacred right for any couple. Placing Sexually Transmitted Diseases aside for a moment, the idea of another male given this same access and opportunity may be very erotic for him. The sight, smell or feel of another man's cum in her mouth or vagina is taboo and also an erotic fantasy.

Husband offense: This one I can not relate to permisterally. It seems that some men want their partner to exhibit control over them, choosing to deny them sexual satisfaction by finding another sexual source. This is known as cuckolding and not explored in this guide.

Wife offense: Another one I don't relate to permisterally. Some men like the feeling of power they have ordering their partner to submit to sex with another man.

I'm sure there are other motivations, but the group listed here represent the mainstream reamisters men suggest to their partners to engage in sex with another man. If the male readers can relate to any or all of the above, you are perfectly normal as millions of other guys have these same fantasies.





WOMEN'S MOTIVATIONSome women have a reoccurring MFM fantasy. Others have not given it much thought until asked about it. Perhaps you have been directed here by your mate to learn more?

Woman reading this who have not explored the topic of sexual play another man should try bringing the subject up some time when your partner is aroused. You may be pleasantly surprised by the result. For those of you trying to understand why he wants to pursue this and what it would be like, I hope this will help you make an informed decision.

In the right circumstances, I've asked women what motivated them to seek sex outside of their relationship and this is what they've shared:

"New sex" pleasures
Pleasing her partner
Guilt free lustful sex
Sex with a more desirable partner
Being ravished
Need to validate her desirability
Fulfilling missed sexual experiences
Unconditional belonging
Enjoying sex similar to that before being married
Being with more than one man at a time


"New sex" pleasures: For men and women, sex with a new partner is in most cases very erotic. It is likely she will have one of the most memorable sexual experiences in her life.
Pleasing her partner: Through the exploration of relationships with her previous lovers, she learns of his desire for her to engage in sexual play with a new partner. She finds he is seriously turned on by the thought of this fantasy and finds his lustfulness associated with this topic equally arousing. He wants to bring this fantasy to life more than anything and by granting his wish, she gives him something very special.

Guilt free lustful sex: Sex without the emotional baggage of a relationship can feel more heightened for her. It can be a liberating experience for those women who have not yet tried it. In an MFM adult play situation, she can concentrate totally on her pleasure, her desire and her needs.

Sex with a more desirable partner: No one man can satisfy a woman's erotic desires in every way. In an MFM experience, she has the opportunity to select a mate that is different than her current lover. He could be younger or maybe leaner or maybe from another part of the world. If she has always had the hots for a guy with lots of muscles, this is her opportunity.

Being ravished: The thought of a man she hardly knows seeing her naked, aroused and unable to resist his advances is a female fantasy. Her new partner is full of desire for her and is allowed to touch her everywhere and "take" her.

Need to validate her desirability: Some women need to know they are attractive and viewed as sensual. No experience will validate her desirability more than attracting another partner for sexual play. It can be a ego boost for her, especially if she has been having doubts about her ability to attract others. Ask any 50 year old women if she feels more attractive after a shared wife experience with a younger stud and you'll get an affirmative response.

Fulfilling missed sexual experiences: She's lived an overly conservative life and now realizes she has missed out on the opportunity to sample sex with other men. Now is her chance to experience a variety of partners.

Unconditional belonging: A deep sense of bonding where she feels owned by her partner. This occurs when the husband/boyfriend, after making sure she is completely ready, invites another man to have her. She is "his woman" and is given away. Some couples experience a very strong emotional attachment as they look at one another while a new partner is intimately engaged with her.

Enjoying sex similar to that before being married: Perhaps she longs again for that freedom she had to relax with whomever she wished. (editorial note: Most men can relate with this).

Being with more than one man at a time: It is not just guys who have the fantasy of being with two members of the opposite sex at once. Some women find it arousing.


This is by no means a complete list. Perhaps one of the female readers can elaborate on what I've written here. Drop me an e-mail. ([email protected])






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Part II
Are We Ready?


Are we ready to turn fantasy into reality?

There are several prerequisites that should be met before you both consider turning this fantasy into a reality which relate to your background, mindset and age.
Have you explored the more moderately erotic sexual activities first? There are several turn-ons that help to bring about sexual maturity. These are discussed in the next section.
The fantasy has to become her fantasy. In some cases, this is a difficult hurdle and is discussed in the next sections. Men often fail to understand that turning this fantasy into reality for her is more of a journey, with several key steps along the way.
She must be capable of having sex without emotional involvement. This is relatively easy for a large percentage of men, but may be difficult for women. Society dictates to women, from a young age that "where her body goes, so does her heart". It is important that you talk about this issue up front so she can feel comfortable with sexual play without attachment.
Age makes a difference for some. Older couples, in their 30's and beyond are generally more comfortable with this type of adult play. This is particularly true for women.





Discussions with her about the fantasy

This section will mainly apply to the male readers.
Women want respect, love and physical sex - usually in that order. If you're preparing to discuss this seriously with your partner, this is a perfect time to work on your relationship. Before you broach the subject directly, it is assumed you've already explored her sexual past and have bought toys that help explore sex with another partner. There are countless ideas, but I've compiled a list of sexual experiences that encourage sexual maturity for both of you:

Less sexually advanced:
Have her dress up in a sexy outfit such as tight jeans and blouse, then go to a secluded location such as a park. Unbutton a few buttons on her blouse or jeans and take photographs of her in sexy poses.
Give your wife a gift certificate for a body massage and prearrange to have a man deliver the massage.
Read one of the books in the Women Readers section.
Role play. Have her come into a bar and flirt with you, pick you up and take you home.
Have sex in risky places where there is a chance someone might see you.
Buy her a revealing dress. Go somewhere you won't be known and dance the night away in front of others.
Have her dress provocatively, then go to a public place. Watch other men watch her.

More advanced:

If you're apart (e.g. business travel), call her when you've been away for several days and encourage her to act as if your fantasy has come true over the phone.
Place an ad in "Your Wife's Lovers" on the Dark Wanderer and encourage a man to have a cyber-sex relationship with your wife.
Post a sexy picture of her, where her identity is not revealed on the net, then ask for comments and read them together.
Have a male masseuse come to the house and give your wife a body massage as a surprise.
Have her dress provocatively, then go out and expose her breasts or sexy behind to someone she knows or a stranger.
Take her dancing, sit apart and encourage her to dance with another man.
Have an on-line ICQ relationship or visit a chat room.

The best time to talk seriously about this fantasy is while flirting, but not in the throes of passion. As with most sensitive topics, timing is everything. I urge you to take the open and honest approach about your sexual needs. Explain that your fantasy has developed over time, as you've thought about you're own sexuality. If you're like nearly every man I've responded to on this topic, the idea of exploring a MFM relationship does not in any way lessen your love for your partner. She needs to hear this message in particular.

Most women will jump to conclusions and believe that their partner actually desires a swinging relationship. They may view a shared-wife experience as a means to that end. It will be necessary to reassure her otherwise, perhaps frequently.

Don't discuss the details about how and when - that's for later. First share the reamisters you want it to happen (see part 1). Explore how you think you will feel afterwards. I would suggest a "go slow" approach. This is your chance to grow and explore your sexuality together over time and strengthen your relationship. If done right, it will be a wonderful experience and you'll remain happy, sexually fulfilled and very much in love.








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Part III
Finding the right partner


Good Choices and Bad

When a couple selects a man to be included in your sex life, he might not be the right partner. There could be a variety of reamisters, but the more he knows about either of you, the more difficult it will be to keep him out of your life. If he does not have a way to contact you besides e-mail, it is much easier to say you're not
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Well, the whole thing wouldn't copy...so here is the link for the whole "Guide".

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And some cuckolding:

What is a Cuckold
"Cuckold" is derived from the Old French for the Cuckoo bird. The earliest written use of the Middle English derivation, “cokewold” occurs in 1250. The females of certain varieties of Cuckoo lay their eggs in other bird’s nests, freeing themselves from the need to nurture the eggs to hatching. In medieval Europe, the law, custom, and the church all defined married women as a category of property held by their husbands. Although Christian marriage vows strictly enjoined sexual exclusivity in a marriage for both partners, custom rarely enpowerd it on the husband (although Catholic doctrine held infidelity by either party to be a mortal sin).

A nuance of the word often overlooked in contemporary usage is that it refers to a man who, like the bird warming the cuckoo’s eggs, is unaware of his victimization. A man who knows and acquiesced, in his wife’s taking of another lover was called a "wittol," itself a derivation from the Middle English for "willing (as in knowing) cuckold."

Cuckolds have sometimes been written as "wearing the horns of a cuckold" or just "wearing the horns." This refers to the fact that the man being cuckolded is the last to know of his wife's infidelity. He is wearing horns that can be seen by everybody but him. This also refers to a tradition claiming that in villages of unknown European location, the community would gather to collectively humiliate a man whose wife gives birth to a young recognizably not his own. According to this legend, a parade was held in which the hapless husband is powerd to wear antlers on his head as a symbol of his wife’s infidelity. Whether this did actually happen or not is irrelevant to the phrase, which survived.

In a human sexual relationship a cuckold is a wife that has an affair on her husband and then uses sex to stimulate him. She may go out and have sex with another man while making her husband clean the house, or do other specific duties and come home and dominate him by verbal commands, even using jealousy, pain and offense. A cuckold accepts his mates infidelity and enjoys his wife's domination afterward.

Major Cuckold Theme
He is bigger/better- than you is a common them played by a cuckold couple. The wife tells the husband that her lover is larger and a better lover than he is. This offense and form of pain will in turn stimulate the cuckold (chuck) husband and become highly aroused into ecstasy. Couples who live this type of lifestyle find it highly erotic for both of them. But as with all sexual lifestyles this is not for everyone.
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Allen,
This is very helpful. Thanks for starting this thread.
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Great text, Allen

Thanks
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