Allen
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Well, I didn't get sex last night either...she was to sore from the royal fucking the neighbor gave her.
Just remember, never say never. My wife did, and now look.
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Sunday night we finally made love. She was a little frustrated because she couldnt cum for some reamister (before my neck got too sore). I told her it was because we waited to long and that she should have me give her oral during the middle of the week to keep her O's coming. Other than that it was great! Pussy feels amazing after a week and I lasted longer than I expected. Tonight I am going to ask for another week of denial and this time to enjoy herself and tease me mercilessly.
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We must be on a similar track here. I also got to have sex last night. Although my wife came extra quick last night. I was playing with her pussy with my fingers for some time before I ate her out. I was only down on her for 10 min or so. I got to fuck her after that, but I didn't last long...I never do.
I think you are right on keeping your wife going by giving her oral during the week, getting her off and making you wait till the weekend. If I may...I would suggest buying her a toy to play with while she also waits for the weekend. We have some toys, but I heard about one on the radio. The girls on "Playboy" radio were talking about a "Butterfly Kiss". I looked it up, bought it for my wife...she loves it. I makes her cum really fast, and has helped her learn a lot more about herself.
She says its by far the best toy she has ever used. Have fun this week with the denial and teasing.
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Thanks Allen. We have lots of toys (shes not shy about using toy) but Im always looking for a better one. We have a tradition that we give each other something sexy in each others Christmas stocking. I was thinking about one of those large realistic dildos but maybe a Butterfly Kiss would be good too.
The teasing never really got very far. I think shes uncomfortable doing it. We did have a talk about it and I think she believes that being a tease is a bad thing. I explained that being a tease is different than erotically teasing her husband. I told her would really enjoy it and she thanked me for explaining it to her. She seemed excited about it but she never really did much. The most we did was some phone texting while I was at work. I think I'll have to have another talk with her.
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I havent posted anything lately because nothing has happened. We havent had sex in 10 days. I have been told that tonight were going to hook up. Im planning on using my penis extension on her. It extends me from 6 to 8 inches and much thicker.
Our aniversary is Monday and were spending Saturday night in SF. Im hoping she'll be up for a hotel porno.
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Allen
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Good luck...and Happy Aniversary! I hope she fucks your brains out! No sex in 10 days can be rough. You guys doing ok otherwise?
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iwmwtcm
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Yes Allen, were doing great! Thanks for asking. Its been hard lately because we have had so many things going on and Ive been working a lot.
We did have sex last night but it was a disaster. I used the extension but I must not used enough lube. After a few minutes of fucking, my penis started burning really bad and I had to stop. It hurt so bad that I couldnt even touch it afterwards! And to top it off I couldnt get her off orally either. We have noticed that if she goes more than a week without, then her libido drops off dramatically and she has a very difficult time reaching orgasm. All them more reamister to have a lover who can discretely fuck her brains out once in a while, imho.
We decided to throw the extension away since it was getting old. I told her I would get another one and she said I didnt have to. She was concerned because I dont feel much with it on. I told her I wanted to because I wanted to be able to give something more once in a while, plus it makes me last longer. She said OK but that she was happy with just me. However, I noticed she did enjoy it when I fucked her as deep as I could with the extension.
Im in the east bay right now waiting for her to pick me up for our night in SF. If anyone sees a couple (Im 6 foot, shes 5' 3", both with brown hair) walking/shopping around Union Square, give me a sign (flash me the peace sign). If you seem decent, Ill try to separate from her and allow you to strike up a conversation with her. When I get back to her, ask us if we'd like to get a take (Ill pick up the tab). Dont get your hopes up for tonight because we havent discussed cuckolding yet. It is exciting to imagine her fucking another man on our aniversary! But Ill get your email address and we can keep a dialog going. Eventually, when we do discuss it, you will be first on the list.
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Well, the anniversary was great. We had a good time and was able to reconnect. We made love twice and had some good talks. My wife wore lingerie and I got a blowjob (neither one occurs very often these days). She promised not to let 10 days go by without sex and she committed to losing some weight at the start of the new year (not that shes super fat, but she could stand to lose a few lbs as could I).
One very emotional talk on the drive home occured where we somehow got on the subject of mens midlife crisis (I think it stemmed from some comments on the Tiger Woods fiasco). In the end she was very satisfied that I was committed to never having an affair on her (she doesnt realize how true that is). The funny thing is that the subject of her never having an affair on me never came up. I know she wouldnt, but it was funny that she never said it. Hopefully, someday she will be agreeable to taking a lover once she knows I am more than OK with it.
About the losing weight issue: she has been doing the exercise/dieting routine off and on for several years. She does really well for a while and then loses motivation. I know that when a relationship is new, a womans motivation and desire to look good for her lover is heightened. How cool would it be that she would find the energy and motivation to look good (lose weight, get new hairstyle, dress more provocatively, shave legs and pussy, etc, etc, etc) for a lover that she couldnt for me?
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I just had a thought. Before my wife started cuckolding me, she would masturbate very little. After cuckolding me she did it a little more...then I bought her this little toy (Butterfly Kiss). She does it all the time now. She says that this is the best toy she has ever owned. She cums a lot easier now with me...and with her bf. Check this out and get your wife one...she will love it.
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Good luck on things...Do you plan to talk to her about cuckolding while on your vacation?
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Allen
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Quoting: iwmwtcm How cool would it be that she would find the energy and motivation to look good (lose weight, get new hairstyle, dress more provocatively, shave legs and pussy, etc, etc, etc) for a lover that she couldnt for me? Funny, we must have posted at the same time. What you said above...it will most definately happen. My wife dresses more provocatively now than ever. She told me this weekend..."I love to tease him...and you, but him first". The change in attitude will also come...and its a great thing to see and experience. If your wife does this for you (its more for her)...you will love it!!!
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I still think the talk on cuckolding is a ways off, but who knows.
A week or so ago I got brave and told her I was contemplating doing something sexy for Christmas (we always put sexy things in our stockings like sex toys or panties, flavored lubes, etc) but that I was afaid it was too kinky for her (chastity). It peked her curiosity but I didnt tell her what it was. I was thinking about buying a chastity device, putting it on, and presenting the key to her in a wrapped present. But I think she might freak out. I think a better way to do it might be to look at them together on the internet (keptforher.com has a great article on the "whys" of chastity) and see what she says. Anyway, this morning before I left for work, she asked me about my secret again and I told her I would tell her about it tonight. So I guess tonight is the night I tell her my chastity fantasy. I am very nervous.
Telling her about my cuckolding fantasy fanties is a whole other ballgame because I know she will be very upset and confused as to why I would want that. I keep looking for the best way to tell her, but maybe there isnt one. Maybe I should just tell her and get it over with. Maybe, if we do the chastity thing, it will open up some opportunities to talk about fantasies and other ways to spice up the sex life. Perhaps I will tell her then.
Thanks again for the "butterfly kiss" suggestion. I have been looking for something to put in her stocking. I think I will give it a try!
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Obviously taking your time is the right thing to do. It shows you care a lot about what she thinks and how she feels. Some people want this so bad they don't care how they get it.
I really think that if you keep taking your time, keep going the route you are (the chastity thing)...you will find some way to bring up the cuckold fetish. You might want to try bringing up "hotwifing". It is similar to cuckolding, but does not have the extremes that cuckolding does.
I am going to post a new thread with something that might help those looking for a way to talk to the wife about this. Its a little long...
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I thought cuckolding covered anything that involved the wife having sex with someone other than her husband. It could be as mild as the occasional hotwife episode or as extreme as totally replacing the husband with a lover in the bedroom. Although I enjoy the fantasy of some of the extreme stuff, my true desire is for my wife to be free to explore sex with others as a way of achieving sexual satisfaction. Not that she isnt satisfied with me. I spend a great deal of effort on her satisfaction. I have even ravished her with massages and oral sex until she couldnt take anymore and then refused to have intercourse with her just to show her that her satisfaction was more important to me than my own satisfaction. Thats the way I truely feel. I just think that if she embraced the idea of cuckolding, or hotwifing, or whatever you want to call it, I think she could really enjoy herself. Not just on a sexual level either. I think it would increase her confidence knowing that other men still find her attractive (even in her mid-forties) which would expand into satisfaction and confidence in every area of her life.
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Allen
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Quoting: iwmwtcm I thought cuckolding covered anything that involved the wife having sex with someone other than her husband. It could be as mild as the occasional hotwife episode or as extreme as totally replacing the husband with a lover in the bedroom. Although I enjoy the fantasy of some of the extreme stuff, my true desire is for my wife to be free to explore sex with others as a way of achieving sexual satisfaction. Not that she isnt satisfied with me. I spend a great deal of effort on her satisfaction. I have even ravished her with massages and oral sex until she couldnt take anymore and then refused to have intercourse with her just to show her that her satisfaction was more important to me than my own satisfaction. Thats the way I truely feel. I just think that if she embraced the idea of cuckolding, or hotwifing, or whatever you want to call it, I think she could really enjoy herself. Not just on a sexual level either. I think it would increase her confidence knowing that other men still find her attractive (even in her mid-forties) which would expand into satisfaction and confidence in every area of her life. You are right on all of the above. Her confidence will take off like a rocket...all you have to do is hang on for the ride. And what a ride it will be. I can't wait to hear how your surprise goes...
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Unfortunately the chastity talk didnt happen. My wife took my mister out shopping last night and didnt get back until just before bedtime. And then she had an upset stomach when we went to bed. Not exactly the best time to talk.
But...
I did mention that we were suposed to talk about this idea of mine. I knew that if I didnt mention it, it would be too easy for me to chicken out. She was going to get up early with me to discuss it before I went to work but she was too tired.
Looks like tonight will be more likely.
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Just received a text from my wife:
"Sorry I couldn't pull myself out of bed this morning to have coffee with you. This doesn't mean you're off the hook with the "conversation" we were going to have!"
Her curiousity is peaked!
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Allen
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Awesome to hear that. I know how she feels. I took off work yesterday to take care of two sick kids and a sick wife...now I am sick and its her turn... I can't wait to hear how things go tonight...good luck...and have fun.
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Well, she did it again. She was out with one of my misters last night and by the time we got everyone to bed, it was too late to talk. She said she would get up with me in the morning but she slept in again. I think subliminally she is nervous about what I am going to tell her. She actually said "its not a threesome, is it"? Not ready to drop that bomb though.
Now Im waiting for another text from her apologizing for not getting up.
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iwmwtcm
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Well, she did it again. She was out with one of my misters last night and by the time we got everyone to bed, it was too late to talk. She said she would get up with me in the morning but she slept in again. I think subliminally she is nervous about what I am going to tell her. She actually said "its not a threesome, is it"? Not ready to drop that bomb though.
Now Im waiting for another text from her apologizing for not getting up.
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Allen
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Its almost worse for you to keep it in...than the idea of letting it out.. This reminds me of my wife and I...when we try to plan something with the neighbor...it almost always falls apart. But works better if things are not planned. Again...can't wait to see how it goes.
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Text traffic (her name deleted and changed to "wife"):
Me (11:49 AM): So what time did you finally get up? Wife (11:50 AM): 7:45 and again, you're not off the hook! Me (11:57 AM): Ok, lol. Im getting the feeling that you dont want to know. Its not that big of a deal. You will think I am weird though. If we decide not to do it, thats OK. But I think if you were able to get over the initial kinkyness, you could have a lot of fun with it. Wife (11:58 AM): You've definately peaked my curiosity! Me (12:01 PM): Good. Im pretty sure youve never heard of this. I had never heard of it the first time I stumred across it. In fact, the first time I read about it I said "what the..., youve got to be joking"! Me (12:01 PM): But then I read more and decided it could be fun. Me (12:02 PM): Actually, potentially it could be a LOT more fun for you than for me! Wife (12:03 PM): Again...curiousity peaked! Me (12:04 PM): Ha ha. I promise that the butt is in no way involved. Wife (12:08 PM): Good to know! Me (12:09 PM): Have a good lunch. Ill see you when I get home. Wife (12:09 PM): Ok
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Well last night I told my wife about my chastity fantasy. Surprisingly, she was OK with it. I showed her the keptforher.com website and directed her to the "why chastity" link. She was very receptive to the whole thing. This morning, while I am at work, she is going to read the articles, read about the chastity games, and explore the website in general. I am eagerly awaiting a text from her about whether or not she is willing to try it but all signs are she will.
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Allen
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Oh hell...that is awsome. I bet it feels like a weight off your shoulders having talked to her about it...and she was receptive. Very cool...glad to hear things went well.
Can't wait to hear how things go later...
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Just placed my order for a CB-6000 moments ago at keptforher.com. It will be here before Christmas.
I am so excited! Its a weird feeling to get an erection while thinking about not being able to get an erection.
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Allen
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And a Merry Christmas it will be!!! Congrats on getting this out to your wife and her being accepting of it. You have cracked open "that door" ever so slightly...
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iwmwtcm
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Im thinking about taking a picture of myself all locked up with a paper showing my username and "Cuckoldplace.com" to get my "Real Permister" status. Not too thrilled about a pic of my junk out on the net, though. We'll see.
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LesM
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Great thread iwmwtcm! Please continue!
I had the same prob with masterbation decreasing my prowess. The more I wanked, the less sensitive I was. Took more to achieve a boner.
Please don't push her. You two can have lots of fun even if this does not become a reality.
Have you asked her about the other men she has been with? How did they please her? How did they compare with you?
Of all the men in the world, has she fantasized about sex with any of them?
How about men of other ethnicities, any she finds attractive? (I'd be thinkin' Big Ole Black Cock, but would try not to blurt it out, lol)
Maybe you can have a pretend session, something she envisioned. My ex and I had fun with that.
Thanks and Good Luck!
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LesM
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Meant to add: Tiny tiny baby steps that you both enjoy.
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iwmwtcm
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Thanks LesM. I hope she does enjoy it. It wont be a 24/7 kind of thing (at least not at first). It might turn into that over time I guess, but I would be surprised if it did.
I wont push her into anything. She doesnt respond to being pushed into anything.
About previous lovers - she would be very uncomfortable telling me anything that she thought would hurt my feeling or sense of manhood. She got pregnant at 18 by a real jerk and ended up getting married to him because of the baby. It only lasted a few months. I know one other guy she dated seriously after that. In fact, she was engaged to him but broke it off after she met me (but thats a different story). I know there were others but I dont think she would like talking to me about sex with them.
She has told me that I was the only guy who she has ever had an orgasm with. And I believe her. I remember when I finally figured out how to give her orgasms. It was like she discovered a whole new world. I believe her when she tells me that sex now is better than ever.
But I think that is natural. As we get older and try new things and get more comfortable with ourselves, we are able to enjoy sex better. Once we make the emotional connection to sex, then it can be unbelievable.
Which is why I dont think she will be intereted in cuckolding. She enjoys sex with me and I do things (like chastity) to keep it new and interesting for her. She has no reamister to look elsewhere.
My plan is to use baby steps to get there. Talking about chastity and other fantasies, anal sex on me, and adult dvd's are all things that have been introduced in the last 6 months. The plan is to open her mind to other things and hopefully something will happen to open her mind up to having sex with someone else. In the last adult dvd we were watching there was a scene where the guy was seriously nailing some girl and I said "wow, he's good at that, isnt he?" She never took her eyes off the screen and replied " Yeah, he sure is". I am looking for a movie with lots of MFM scenes or a bored wife fantasy to see what her reaction is.
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Just checked the tracking number with the USPS - my CB6000 is due to be delivered TODAY!
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