Johnnyangplay
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Quoting: Jimmy S Any chance that you would let Joe man a young with Angel ? Hmm. This is an interesting question. In fantasy, absolutely. Of course it is really hot to think about. In real life though, I think about the logistics and real life complications too much. First off, we're in our very early 20's, so we have some time before we want to start that. We do well financially, but still, it's not the ideal time. I always wonder if people actually do this, because it has the possibility of really fucking a young up. If the relationship that we have now continues for a long period of time - maybe 10 years from now, when we have youngren of our own, it could be a possibility. http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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mred4682
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>I always wonder if people actually do this, because it has the possibility of really fucking a young up.
How do feel it could fuck up the young? Since I have had a vesectomy my wife and I felt this was the perfect way to have a young together. She just plays without protection, and won't tell any of the other guys if she does get pregnant.
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Mikey71
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I think the young's well being is largely determined by how the parents act. If Joe were to suddenly decide he doesn't like the idea of another man raising his young and want to be more involved, then yes it's easy to see how the young could end up hurt in the ordeal. Me permisterally would not want another man raising my young.
It just depends a lot on how the parents are -- if everybody is cool or blissfully ignorant, that's one thing. The flip side is a custody battle and a young who grows up confused about his parents being married in 2008/9 and him/her being born in 2010, etc., wondering how/why his or her dad is not the man their mom is married to.
For those who can pull it off successfully and raise their youngren in a healthy and stable environment, great (especially since it makes for fun reading on this site).
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Johnnyangplay
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Yeah, I guess in mred4682's case, if you just don't tell the other guy, I guess there wouldn't be much of a problem.
If the situation was different, and it was possible that the young could find out, or the other guy could change his mind, etc. It could potentially be a problem in the long run. I'm not saying that it always is, but that's definitely the kind of thing that you need to decide seriously - not in the sex takes way that many people on here talk about it.
If you can make it happen for real and are better for it - more power to you. http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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mred4682
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I forgot for the moment that Joe was a close friend of yours. It makes it so much easier for a lot of things keeping the guys your wife has sex with at a distance. We normally don't develop true friendships with the guys my wife has sex with. When we have, things come up like my post on here about backing out. However I can understand how much of a turn on it must be for you to have your good friend fucking your girl better than you do. It must drive the jealousy even deeper knowing the risk is there for her to leave you for him. But it must feel so good when she stays and tells you she loves you for letting her. As far as another guy getting the wife pregnant, it does definately have to be a LIFE commitment, just as if it is your own young, otherwise the kids can indeed run into issues. When my wife gets pregnant, in my mind it will be mine and I will raise it just like I have my other kids or better. It also makes it fun trying to get there...
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VaBeachCouple
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We have been reading and enjoying your thread, immensely.
Not unlike you, we also have a blended cuckold/polyamorous relationship.
We would like to join in the conversation, if it would be acceptable.
Savannah and beta
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superswinger
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Hello, I agree that its hard to post here, to much fantasy and bullcuckolds brownie, mixed with out right racist. Im happy for your rlationship. I much like yours, started when we were younger. We have done it all and attend swinger parties. If you need any advice or want to know some of my experiances just ask. Here to help
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Johnnyangplay
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VaBeachCouple
Hey, I'd love if you would join in the conversation too!
It seems that the cuckold and poly lifestyles are usually not mixed, so I would love to hear more about people who do have that.
How did your relationship come about? http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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Johnnyangplay
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superswinger
Hi, that's great that you started early as well. I would love to hear about the things that you have done & the relationships you have had.
Sounds very exciting! http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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Johnnyangplay
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Thanks a lot for the comment, there's some great ideas!
We have been planning on going away for a bit and playing in a place that we can be much more open about our relationship, and I'm sure that we will once Joe's move is done and all of that stress is settled.
Definitely going to go with Ang to a restaurant, walk in with her hand in hand, & sit down. Then have Joe come in and kiss her etc. while the waiters & other patrons look on.
Also, the driving around while they fuck in the back seat is something that I want to do asap!
Thanks & keep em coming. http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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VaBeachCouple
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"Hello" and "Thanx" for letting us join in.
I met my beta at a bdsm/swingers party about 5 yrs ago. We seemed to be at ease with each other right away.
We were first a femdom couple. We had a great time with friends we made in the local bdsm/swingers group, as is often the case with local groups.
I had boyfriends before I met him. And I did not see a reamister to give those friiends up because of beta. I still liked the attention and company of other men (and women) in scene settings, and in the vanilla world as well.
As time moved along, I began to remove sex, out of our relationship, as punishment. It seemed to make him more devoted and attentive. He was much more easy to control and far more dedicated to me. I like the results I was getting. beta confessed that there was something," he couldn't quite put his finger on," but the excitement factor was undeniable.
This process was gradual and different dates marked a new restrictions of access to me. This was "mirrored" with me re-kindling relationships with two other male friends that I had known for a number of years. One of them was in the bdsm group we belonged to.
beta and I, both knew, and liked him. Eric was masculine, tall and a Marine. He had a "crisp" look to him, in his uniform.
He put on a demo, one day, for the group called "Boot-blacking." He had a couple of us sit in chairs while he cleaned and shined our heeled boots.
All of us were near orgasm, by the time he was finished polishing the leather with our feet still inside. It still gives me goose bumps to this very day. And that was a couple of years ago. I must get him to do that again.
~Savannah
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superswinger
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Well it started with my girlfriend giving me and my friends hand jobs when we all smoked pot. We would all blaze up and she would jerk us all of with lotion. I always liked letting her experiance other guys and seeing her reactions.
It went from that to letting her fuck guys she thought were hot. Some had big dicks, some had little dicks. You never knew, she chose them based on how cute she thought they were. Sometimes they would suck in bed and have problems getting it up, or cum to quickly.
We weeded out those that sucked an often time elected for multiple guys. That way she would get off.
She had every every kind of race there is. She perfers white guys, but she is open to other races. A lot f this one race is bigger or other bull-cuckolds brownie you read on this forum is not true. We have seen many guys of all colors and most have average dicks. Finding big dicks is hard, but she dont really care about that. In fact one of her best fucks came from a guy who had a 4& 1/2 inch dick.
We go to swinger parties in the SC,NC, and TN areas. We have even been to some Cuckold parties n the Myrtle Beach and Nashville areas.
Just remeber this is for both of you. If she enjoys who shes fucking it wil be better for you!!!!
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Johnnyangplay
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Hey, that actually sounds a lot like how we started out with this. It's really hot that she's been with a bunch of different guys and would just fuck whoever she thought was hot.
Seeing her reaction is definitely the best part!
Hopefully Ang will start to be a little more open to being with Joe's friends as well. That would be exciting for sure. http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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VaBeachCouple
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After a lot of talking about our changing roles, to some extent, I started going out with Eric. You know, the usual, dinner a movie or Starbucks.
We would come back to the condo but beta would not allowed to be here. He was riding his bike a on the boardwalk waiting for us to finish the evening. I would call him, when he could return home.
Over time, I started dressing more for Eric, and not at all, for beta. I have two drawers in beta's dresser that are reserved for items like corsets, stockings, special matching sets or bras and panties and so on. This is quite effective in making sure he knows what i am doing for my boyfriends. I also make sure they know I do not wear anything for beta.
We have a walk-in closet and my special shoes have a place that cannot be missed when we walk though it. beta cleans them but does not get to see me in them unless I am going out on a date.
To go along with everything else, beta must wear some protection before having me. I only allow my boyfriends the kind of access beta once had with me. They also know he is not allowed inside me without a "raincoat." We have found that by communicating as much as possible with each other, the better our little lifestyle has worked.
I am convinced that communication, about everything, is the best way to keep relationship(s) healthy, fresh, safe and exciting. I want to know what beta, or my lover, thinks about. It gives me ideas, or it steers me away form territory that would cause conflict.
~Savannah
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Nedcuck
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Johnny, do you still get to fuck Ang?
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Johnnyangplay
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Nedcuck
Yes, I do still fuck her, although not a whole lot when Joe is here. Since he lives over 2 hours away he can't be here all the time and Ang loves having sex, so I get to.
Joe doesn't really like me having sex with her though, and she'd usually pick him over me when it comes to sex, so once he moves here I would assume it would be less often. http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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oqo68s
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I still think you are such a lucky man...
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MBB
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my girlfriend and i attended quite some house party's(rave's whatever your call it) ...what i really liked when she would be with me ...kissing ..then dancing with other guys..making them really horney sometimes kissing them as well ..dancing/riding them...everbody would see that's she's a slut and you are being cucked and that would be a real turn on. Sort of a public offense without going to far.
you could get the same effect by going together with joe..first people would see you with your girlfriend..then later on with him. you could go to a club or houseparty ...the atmosphere there is quite right for these kind of things.Or go without joe and let her make some new 'friends'
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devoT
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I think you should buy your girlfriend a strap-on dildo, and encourage her to use it on you. That will completely change the dynamics of the relationship between the three of you, and set the future pattern for everybody's roles.
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allaanon
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Haven't seen you post anything yet on our chastity experiences. Please!!!
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ArtVandelay
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sounds like a great thing you have going on! would love to hear more
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Master_4_yourwife
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This has ben a great thread I havee been pleased to be involved with. Has it run it's course and finished? I do hope not!!!! Intelligent articulate man seeks people who need to be "used, abused & humiliated!"
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Johnnyangplay
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Quoting: Master_4_yourwife Has it run it's course and finished? I do hope not!!!! No no, it has certainly not. Joe had been reading this for a little while, and we tried to introduce Ang to it. As I had sort of expected, she didn't take well to it - she wasn't a fan of me talking online to people about us. I didn't want to put any stress on our situation as it is pretty much perfect (for me anyway) so I stayed away for a little while. Since then, Joe has moved up here (so that was also a busy time) and we've both talked to Angela a lot. She's not as upset with me talking to people, since she's realized it's helped to bring about a bunch of the things that she really likes. Anyway, I'll be back in the next few days, and will PM you Master. Thanks! -John http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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cuckold_2
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Hello,
Will keep it simple, great thread pls continue. IMHO continue the course however I would not allow your friend to move in because it is the beginning to an end. You guys are on the "fence" regarding who she will be with in the FUTURE. Have you and Angela talked about marriage? if so PLS don't even discuss youngren yet. You guys are very young and you 2 or 3 or whatever should enjoy but PLS don't bring in a baby. I am an older cuckold (40 yrs) and my wife enjoys me in her panties and stockings while she brings her b/f's and has me walking around in stilletos serving them.
I am also a submissive and my Wife has total control and we enjoy it but we DON'T let our family know only close friends.. Also one more suggestion be careful what pics you post that can and will come back and bite you guys in the a$$ in the future....Remember you guys are young !!
Sorry for the rant... just I have been there and done that and still continue but now more careful..
Carry on and good luck
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eponymous
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Very interesting thread. Thanks to all for their contributions--especially J & A.
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kapugi
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So we are in to October now and he has moved down. Please give us a full update on how things are progressing.
Hope it is going great for all involved.
The idea of of your girl and Joe involved in a 3 sum with another girl while you do nothing but watch is very hot!
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Johnnyangplay
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Again, I'm sorry for just ditching the thread for a while - I know how annoying it is to not see any updates when you really want to!
cuckold_2
I explained a bunch of this before, but it's buried somewhere in the last 4 pages so I'll kind of explain again.
Joe isn't going to move in with us, however he did move up here about a week ago & now lives on our street. The move didn't have anything to do with his relationship with Ang, but was rather for school and that he is now working as a manager for a company that I own. This was all in the works before he and Ang started anything serious and will continue even if their relationship doesnt.
We really aren't on the fence at all - Ang and I are great, have been together for quite a while (okay so not that long compared to someone who has been married for 20 years, but you get the idea) and will be getting married relatively soon. We're basically just waiting & saving some money because we will be buying a house once we get married & will be paying for the wedding ourselves. (Just makes more sense economically - why waste money on rent when we could just have a mortgage that will contribute to net worth).
Even if she and I were not so strong, Joe wouldn't be the permister for her. Yeah, they care about each other, and work well in this capacity, however Joe doesn't plan on getting married - ever. Or, at least until his late 30's once he's established his own successful life. I was fortunate to be able to create a business early in life, and Joe won't settle down until he is able to do the same. This is basically the opposite of what Ang wants in a partner, and we've discussed this all many times.
Kids definitely are not in the plans now, not for several more years anyway. That was mainly a philosophical discussion before. We definitely learned about the pictures, and have been really careful since then. Also, only 4 of ang's friends and their respective significant others know about our situation. Fortunately, none of them know any of our mutual friends, and live pretty far away, so it's good but safe exposure. Family will never know about this.
Thanks so much for your concern and tips though!
-John http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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Johnnyangplay
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kapugi
Hey, I'm glad that you've kept reading our thread.
Yes, Joe is up here now, he's moved in over the past week and it's been a really busy time.
Between the last time I posted (mid Sept.) and Oct 1ish we only got to play once because Joe was finalizing everything at home, but it was a very intense and interesting experience. I think that I should get to that before elaborating on this past week, it will make things make more sense.
Basically, Joe's been increasingly dominant recently and wanted to experiment with some of his more sadistic tendencies. Since we knew it would be a while before we played again, we had been talking about this weekend (well sept 12ish) for a while and it was understood that Joe was going to essentially do whatever he wanted to Angela. In the week before he asked me to get some 'implements' - a paddle (relatively light), clothespins, and a crop. Those were added to our toybox of dildos, vibrators, and butt plugs before he got there, and it was basically his choice of what he would use when. Btw, we did have a safeword before we go any further.
There was a lot of talk the week leading up to this that I won't really go into now, next time I'll keep you more updated in the planning as well. Basically what it came down to though was that Joe was going to punish Angela - while I watched. I'm not sure how much I described here, and what was in private emails and stuff, but to give another overview - Ang hates pain. Hates it. She does, however, like being submissive and showing that she will do whatever it takes. Joe's spanked her before, and has spanked me as well - however I kind of like the physical pain, but find it much more difficult to watch her get it. In essence, Joe wanted to test both of us - to see if she would submit to him and take the pain he offered, and to see if I would be able to watch - and make me suffer in that way.
Okay, so Friday night Joe came up, the three of us had dinner together, and then we all decided that we wanted to go to a local bar.This place is a notorious party spot for the local colleges, and definitely isn't a 'sit down and have a take' kinda place. Half of the bar is usually packed with people, and the other half is a very tightly packed dance floor that gets pretty crazy. Since it's a ton of college girls, everyone's basically dressed in as little clothing as possible, so Ang wore a black tight fitting shirt-dress cut all the way down the back and has a deep V in the front, no bra, thong, and black heels. Any man would have been proud to walk into the club with her. Ha, only I would let her walk in on the arm of another man lol.
Once we were inside, we all got takes, and made our way to the dance floor. It was already crowded, so we both started dancing with Ang (btw, if you're older and haven't been to a college bar lately, dancing is NOT what it used to be. Now, it's basically dry humping and that's it lol) After a little while, I went to get another take and then walked up to a mid level that's like a hallway that overlooks the dance floor. It's only about 4 feet higher than the floor though, so you can see everyone, but it's not too far away. From there, I watched her dance with Joe for at least a half hour, and was totally turned on the entire time. Seeing her boobs & back dripping with sweat as she was grinding against him was so hot. At one point she was facing him, with her arms around his neck as his hands were roaming around the back of her dress. Then she turned around and was grinding her ass into him while he felt up her legs, hips, and boobs.
Eventually Joe got tired so he left Ang there and joined me looking over the floor. Ang was getting takes by that time and was having a ton of fun & started dancing with several other guys. I was surprised that Joe was letting her do this (obv he's not a cuck so idk) but he told me that he told her to be a slut for him. She kept dancing with different people for the next 15 or 20 minutes, but kept gravitating to one guy. Eventually, she let him touch her everywhere, and for quite a while she was dancing with her back to him and his hands were under her top & one hand kept slipping down the front of her dress, where he was clearly touching her pussy. A few minutes later, she turned her head around, and kissed him hard. Then she quickly walked off the dance floor and came over to where we were. With a huge smile on her face she kissed both of us quickly & we headed home.
More to come in a bit when I get a free minute. http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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Johnnyangplay
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Okay, so, when we got home we were all horny, hot, & sweaty, so we decided to all jump in the shower. We have a big shower, but it was still a kind of tight fit, so it was hot having all of us all over each other under the water and all. Once we got out we dried off, and Joe and I went to the bedroom wrapped in towels while Ang dried her hair. Joe sat down on the edge of the bed, opened up his towel, and told me to suck him. I haven't done this totally not in the presence of Ang before though, so it was a little weird, but I know that it made him feel great. I sucked him for about 15 minuets before Angela came into the bedroom totally naked & got all of our attention.
Joe said that because she did a good job being a slut in front of me, he wouldn't start her punishment until the next day & that the night would just be about pleasure. They started kissing pretty passionately, and then Ang climbed into bed & they got under the blankets and started cuddling/messing around. At this point I was still kneeling on the floor where I had been while sucking Joe, and couldn't see too much at all. I stood up, but Joe reached over and shut the light off. I then realized that they didn't really want me watching & took the hint and went into the living room. I was still wide awake so I just hung out and eventually fell arelax on the couch, even though I couldn't hear them much at all from there. http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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Johnnyangplay
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Ugh, my posts have been ridiculously long. Sorry!
On Sat we got up and just hung out as friends most of the day (local baseball game and all). Its weird how there's not any awkward tension as I assumed that there would be in this type of situation.
In the late afternoon, Joe decided that he wanted to start the night's activities, so he told us to strip each other down and come into the bedroom in 5 minutes. When we walked in we could see that Joe had laid out all of our toys on the desk. Joe grabbed me and sat me down on a chair facing the bed and quickly handcuffed my hands to the sides of the chair. He led Ang over to the bed, where he told her to lay face down, and then using rope tied her hands to the headboard. He then came back over to me and tied my legs to the chair as well.
Joe went back over to Ang, and started to touch her ass, caressing it, and softly started to smack it. He started smacking harder and harder, and eventually her ass started to get red. At this point, he made her kneel in doggie style position, with her arms and head all the way down so her ass was in the air. He licked her pussy and ass from behind for a while, but then stopped to pick out some toys. While she was exposed, he grabbed a dildo about his size and slid it in to her pussy, and started fucking her with it. She was getting pretty into it, so he picked out an even bigger one, powerd it in and fucked her with it until she came.
Once she came though, he kept fucking her just as hard with the big dildo. It was way too much for her, and she kept trying to get away from it. He wouldn't stop though and she was flopping around the bed as much as she could with her hands tied up. I told him to stop & he said that because I talked she would get something even worse. http://indiecuckold.tumblr.com/
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