Legitimate question from a young couple

Unfortunately no updates as of yet. Joe is coming over today though, and we'll be hanging out for a while before Angela comes home from work. During that time I'm planning on talking to him about the situation with the key points being:

1. Our door is open to him - he has my permission to come into our home and take her whenever he would like.

This is not really all that far from what is already happening, but I think it will be good to actually define this and give my permission in case he is feeling like he may be overstepping his bounds. Since he and I are friends, he worries that I may get upset, so he always asks me if he may come over, even if Ang wants him to. I've never said no, but he still asks. While I admire his loyalty, at this stage of the relationship it's not necessary to ask every time.

2. We both enjoyed the last time very much (when he was with her without me watching), and I'd like he hear his take on this too.

3. It's up to him whether I get involved, just watch, am not in the room, or am not in the house at the time.

He and Angela are building a relationship (again, not one that threatens our primary relationship), and it's not necessary or fair that I must always be present. They need to have their own sexual chemistry and experiences too. They aren't going on dates or and she's not having sex completely separate from me, but I don't need to be standing over their shoulder either (although sometimes it is sure nice to watch!).

Thank you all for helping to shape this so far, I hope that you keep giving your input!
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Hello again

I can see that your long friendship with Joe could stop him taking
the true Dominant position you both want.

I have a suggestion that may help 'set the scene' for his future
visits (well I have a few - but here is one for public consumption.)
You mentioned earlier them relaxing in the spare bedroom.

I think the next time Joe comes around for a visit you should move
your things into the spare bedroom (a portable clothes rack to hang
your things on would be good) and an extra bedside cabinet (for the
spare room).

One of the first things when Joe arrives is for angela to say she has
a suprise for him and takes his bag to the bedroom and hangs up
his clothes in the wardrobe - where there is a space where your
clothes used to hang - this should bring it home to him that he is free
to come and go (and cum) anyway he chooses.

Maybe after she has hung up his clothes she should ask him if he would
like a take and a chance to freshen up or wether he just wants to take
his position of 'head of the house' and fuck her there and then.

Maybe you should keep your clothes in the spare room permanently -
unless you have friends and family who visit regularly and it would
be difficult to explain.

You seem to spend most of the time Joe is there naked and engaged
in sexual activity - so I assume you have a fair ammount of privacy
and don't always have someone 'knocking on the door'.

This should help move you to a situation where it is 'natural' for him
to assume control. Like some others I am not sure if him moving
in permanantly is right quite yet - but he should have a key to the
front door so he can come and go as he pleases when he visits without
having to ask.

Maybe you should both get into the habit of asking him what you
can both do to please him or 'make his time with you better'. Simple
steps like these will help tip the power balance in his favour.

More to come....


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Joe and I talked for quite a while yesterday, and it went very well. I think that Master_4_yourwife might be partially correct in saying that our friendship makes him being dominant more difficult, but I think we are now getting passed that. I think that he really needed to see that I was more than okay with everything, but actually encouraging. Although he 'knew' this before, I'm not sure that he believed it, but talking to him and explaining the 'order of dominance' that I see of Him-Me-Ang made him understand things better.

I think that it's hard to go from us just having sex purely for pleasure to including power play, offense, and pain - however mild those may be at this stage. He is naturally very dominant though, so really it's just giving him permission to fully express those things that he's never been able to before (with us or anyone else really).

Unfortunately, I didn't read the last post before I saw him, so I didn't do the wardrobe thing, but I did give him a key so that he can come at any time. He does, however, live 2 hours away so I doubt he's going to make any totally unexpected visits yet (he would want to make sure we're going to be around before driving 2 hours lol) but it's more just symbolic.

I also explained to him that most of the time, I can have Ang anytime I would like, so while he is there, she is his. I just wanted it to be perfectly clear that I will never be upset by what he does with/to her, and that it's up to him whether or not I participate as well. I want him to feel that power so he can explore it further.



Once Ang came home he told her how much he missed her while she was gone, and that he needed to have her right away. I think that he was very turned on by what we had talked about during the day, and wanted her very badly. He picked her up and carried her towards the bedroom, and told me to follow as well. I sat down on a chair in the room (that we have for just such occasions..lol) and he placed her on the bed, got on top, and started kissing her. I expected them to rip each others clothes off and fuck very hard, but they didn't. It took about 15 minutes or so for them to get naked, and another 15 or so before he was inside of her. They then had very slow, but very passionate sex for quite a while. It was very different than most of the sex that they have, but was extremely erotic to watch.

Later, Joe again took her into our room and said that I could wait in the living room this time. I said okay, and also said that he could stay the night in there with her. They both looked very happy about this, and shut the door for the night. I of course went right into the spare bedroom so that I could hear what was going on. After a while of not much noise, probably oral sex, I heard the skin-on-skin slapping and knew that they were having sex. About 15 or 20 min later, I heard him cum hard. She came out of the bedroom to go to the bathroom a few minutes later, and while she was walking down the hallway I came out of my room, pinned her against the wall, and started kissing her. It was a great kiss, and she was incredibly sexy being completely naked after having just been fucked by another man. Joe came out into the hallway and said to have a go, so I told her to get on her hands and knees (doggie) so that I could fuck her. As soon as she got into that position on the floor, I realized that he hadn't been fucking her pussy, but rather her ass. That sight was so hot that I pulled out my dick and started fucking her and came pretty quickly. After all of that, she went back to our room with him and fell arelax, as she is working today.



What would you all suggest doing tonight and the nights this week? I am thinking about introducing some bondage/offense (nothing too extreme). I think that I will take the advice posted before and be bound in the room and made to watch, but what else do people do in this situation?
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This sounds like a dream come true! Fun.

I really get off when I hear my girlfriend talking to the guy, and I really go nuts when they are whispering to each other so I can barely hear what's being said, and then giggling a bit.

In particular, when my girlfriend says things to him the are actually meant for me, I go wild with lust.

"I love this cock," and "I wish I could be getting fucked like this every night," have both worked very well for us.

Do you three already talk a lot during sex? If so, what's the dialog that you like best?

Johnnyangplay

IMO, I think naturally submissive desires (that you've yet to express much) are guiding your motivation to bring your best friend and your girlfriend together, hoping it will present a situation for you to finally explore what you've only been able to think about up until now in your life.
Before I comment more, let me ask you....you say you were high school sweethearts....is that when you're relationship started and you've been together ever since or did you date for a period of time while in high school and then did either of you date others for awhile before finally hooking back up together again?

odacuck

We do talk during sex, and what I like most is exactly the kind of thing that you said.

Also, because of our situation where it's not purely sexual and is more laid back than most cuckold sexual experiences, there's a lot of candid talk. I definitely like the times when she says something that isn't meant to turn me on, but does.

Things just like "wow, look at Joe's abs!" or "did he leave a handprint on my ass?"

I also like when I hear her talking to him, like the other night she told him to stop moving while they were having sex because she liked how full she felt.

Sometimes he says stuff too that's really hot, like if I cum before she has an orgasm he just says "ah, don't worry, I'll finish her off."



We'll definitely have to try to incorporate more talking though, esp saying more and more humiliating things.
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DaniSubTV

I think you are partially correct with that. Originally, the desire came from just wanting to have some fun and do something crazy. We were both very dominant and basically used her as a toy while we hung out and drank or whatever. Once their relationship started a bit more though, my submissive tendencies have come more into play and have been why I have encouraged it further.
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please continue, is something happening after that meeting?

it's great to read this about a real couple!

I will update soon, my computer is out for repairs, and its very difficult to update via blackberry.

Also, I can't respond to PMs from here b/c it requires java.

Thanks for the continuing interest guys! Be back soon!
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I just think your girlfreind is incredibly hot and would love to see more pics of her. I also hope Joe knocks your girlfreinds belly up and you can show us some pictures of her tummy and tits all swollen up.

Would also like to see a pic of your tiny penis next to his. It will give us all a good laugh.

I ditto that. I love to read about real peoples experiences (I hope this isnt a fake).
So how do you see this relationship progressing? Whats next?

A good amount had happened over the past week, and even more will tomorrow and this weekend.

Tomorrow evening Ang and Joe will be going on their first 'date' together. Although they have known each other for a long time and have played quite a bit, they have never been out in public alone together. For some reamister, this is something that I've never been fully comfortable with, especially knowing that they will be doing non-sexual things that are usually reserved for those you are dating or married to. Now that I'm getting more comfortable with all of this, it is exciting to push the boundaries that we have. After going out, they will come home where they will have the run of the house. Unfortunately she can't go back to his place (lives too far), but I will stay in the guest room as if I'm not home, so that they can play alone.


For the rest of the weekend though, I'm sure that we'll all play together, or have me watch them at least. I'll be sure to update more often.

Do any of you guys have suggestions of things we might try to push the envelope a bit further?
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Nice comparimister -- I am surprised at his length he is not thicker than you as well. I've really enjoyed reading your post so I hope you continue to post updates. More photos and a video would be cool, too.

As for more ways to push the envelope, it all depends on how far you want to push it. One thing you could do is somehow let friends, neighbors, coworkers and/or relatives know about your situation, whether accidentally or on purpose. Chastity can be fun as well. If you want to go very extreme, you could try pregnancy risk --- see if he can get her pregnant. But of course that's a bit beyond just pushing the envelope.

I am really enjoying this thread and look forward to hearing and seeing
more!

Maybe a picture of her 'all dolled up' for her date would be a nice
momento for you (an embarassing one) and posting it while they are
out - knowing people are looking at her 'all dressed up for her lover'
will add to the stretching of your boundaries.

A couple of 'suggestions' that might make it just a little more
'challenging'. I believe you are intending to stay out of the way
when they return but you may prefer considering a slight alternative.

You are in the spare room when they get back. After a couple of
minutes you come from your room (naked as they are dressed)
and serve them 'champagne' as part of the 'celebrations' of thier
first date.

You have not been allowed to touch yourself (or cum) while they
have been out so you will probably be fairly excited with what you
have been thinking about.

After serving them the champagne (your input should be brief with
the minimum of conversation) You are sent to the toilet before
retiring for bed.

She goes to the bedroom to 'prepare' for him and he takes you to
bed. He lightly ties or cuffs your hands behimd your back so you
dont get any chance to play with yourself then locks the bedroom
door.

I know you weren't intending to leave the bedroom anyway - but
the psychological aspect of not being able to will add to it.

An additional 'extra' you could consider is buying a cheap
'baby monitor' - you can get one without wires these days.

Joe has the choice wether to turn it on and let you really hear what
is happening to her - or turn it off so you have to lay there and
imagine. This way they get the privacy but may enjoy letting you
hear a little and taunting you a bit.
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How about you spending the night at a motel so they can really have the house to themselves?

Chastity is a great idea. You should be in chastity the entire time he is around.

Oh, a photo of her (at least) is a must. Better yet, both of them together as they head out on their date. Blur the faces if you have to but we want to know what she is wearing for him on the date and what she will be taking off for him later.

In terms of pushing the envelope, to help Joe take on a more dominant role,and to help you bring out your submissive side, perhaps you should reach an agreement with Angela that you can only be allowed to watch her being pleasured if you wear women's panties.

Also you could ask her to be more dominant towards you (and more submissive towards him) -perhaps letting you watch them fuck but once he has come inside her she could tell you to go to your room ...and then tell you to bring them breakfast in bed next morning! This will come as a surprise to Joe and make him more relaxed in becoming 'master of the house' and help you develop your cuckold side more fully.

Its important that you all feel relaxed in your new relationships before going public..

I wonder how the 'big date' went?
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I think your friend should share her with his friends and video it for you. Then they can make you watch it and beat off like a sissy. Your friend should forbid you from fucking his slut as well.

Mikey71
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We would definitely like to go a little bit more public with it, but not totally so. It's very difficult because obviously things like this are going to spread quickly and it will be very hard to control that once it starts. I have two trusted friends who happen to live on the other side of the country and don't know most of our friends that we are going to tell about our situation. Also, Ang has told her two best girl friends, and regularly tells them all of the details of the relationship.

One of her friends is very into having threesomes, and has invited Angela to join in with her and her boyfriend. Because of the distance between where we live we have yet to make it happen, but Ang might go to stay with them this fall or winter. Should be fun, especially since he has a beer can of a cock.

We are also thinking of having Joe share Ang with one of his friends within the next few weeks/months.
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Their date this past weekend went extremely well, Joe took Ang to our favorite restaurant and then to a local overlook spot that has a great view of the night sky.

Ang was very excited about it, and took quite a while getting ready to go out. She looked amazing in a short black halter dress (the little black dress does it every time) and I was very jealous that I was not going out with her that night. I'm a bit leery about posting pictures here now, but I'll have to next time if she looks that hot again!

Joe showed up after a little while with flowers for her, and I could tell that she thought he looked great too. First, he took her to our favorite restaurant in town, where most of the waiters recognize us. I bet they got some interesting looks, but I think we will get even better ones the next time Ang and I go there. After a romantic dinner, Joe took her out to a local look out spot (ha that I told him about) that's a pretty romantic place because of the amazing view and the perfectly clear view of the night sky. They laid out on the hood of his car for a while just enjoying it all. After a while they kissed for quite a long time, but that's all that happened while they were out.

The day before they went out, Joe made it very clear that he wanted to have the place alone with Ang, and that he didn't want to see me when they got home. Ang also told me that she didn't want me to interrupt them at all during the night. We didn't do any of the things suggested this time, but I think that we definitely will next time - especially tying me to the bed, and also having me stay in a motel or at least not be home at all.

Once they got home, they got some takes and sat in the living room for a while. After not too long, Ang had her dress off and was on her knees between Joes legs while he was sitting on the couch. She pulled his cock out of his pants, and sucked him for quite a while before sitting on him reverse cowgirl and making him cum in her for the first time. They then went to our bedroom where they made love for the next few hours.

Most of the time though, I couldn't hear much and didn't know all of this until the next morning. The suspense and excitement was amazing! Ang also let me know the next morning that she is absolutely crazy about Joe and hopes that I always let her do this. I have a feeling that this is just the first of many dates.



Okay question to you guys - what would the perfect date be for you and a wife (if you're a bull) or your wife and her lover (if you're a cuck)? What else should we do next time?
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Not quite answering your question, but a couple of ideas.

To help get you used to your cuck status, why don't you go back to your favourite restaurant as a threesome so that the waiters can see that you know about and approve the relationship- make certain that Ang and Joe are seated together as 'the couple' and you as the 'spare'. Also make sure that YOU pick up the bill(check)- the cuck should always pay for the privelege of his wife's satisfaction- and that Ang and Joe leave the restaurant arm in arm...that really should elicit some looks! Then return to the restaurant a few days later with Ang on her own and see how they deal with the situation!

Whats more,if as you say,a couple of Ang's girlfriends already know about Joe, why not invite one of those girlfriends for the weekend when Joe is there, so that they can witness at first hand Ang taking Joe upstairs to your bedroom and your cuckold compliance...you could make small talk whilst Ang and Joe make out (noisily) upstairs!! More than that it will give you a good idea of whether you are ready to go public as Mikey has suggested.

What do you think?

macca121

That sounds like a great idea, the next time that he is here we will go there again and see what happens!

Hm, that might actually be a good idea as well. One of her friends knows every detail of the relationship, so she would probably be quite willing and interested to do just that. I'll talk to Ang about it tonight. Lol I'm a little apprehensive though because this friend can be quite vicious. She knows that I'm not very big & likes to encourage Ang to fuck other guys because of it.
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This past weekend while Joe was here, I brought them breakfast in bed which they enjoyed very much. After they ate they were hanging out, and I assumed from their actions that they were going to have sex. Joe, however, did something surprising and said that I should go down on both of them. I obliged, and went back and forth between eating her and sucking him. I eventually made both of them cum before leaving them to themselves for a while.

Is this a part of cuckolding that you would suggest going into or have any experience with?
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Thanks for the photos of Ang earlier...

Any photos of Ang and you/ Ang and Joe?

Sucking a superior cock -- especially the one that is doing a better job of satisfying your wife than you are capable of doing -- is one of the ultimate acts of presentation. Did you eat Joe's cum?

Great post. This is one of the best on here. I don't see anything wrong with you sucking a superior man's cock. I am glad to see that your relationship is progressing nicely. Sucking another man while he please my g/f is a dream that I have always had, and I think Joe is starting to take more control and that is a good thing.

One thing that I would suggest is that you and Ang get a chastity device for you and either Ang or Joe could hold the key. You guys should do something like Master said above and have you locked in the cage two days before he arrives, while he is there, and for two days after he leaves. While Joe is there he should hold the key and if he feels you deserve it than release you. If not then Ang should release you after the two days. This will add some excitement because they and you know that you cannot touch yourself.

If you are into crossdressing than maybe you should start with woman's lingerie. This is a big turn on for me, but it is not for everyone and I understand that.

Please keep us updated. Also, Ang is beautiful. Maybe for one of her dates you should be required to assist her in getting ready for the date such as helping with make-up and/or shaving her for him.

How are things going? I check this thread daily hoping for updates! I am addicted!