Serious Question...what about the kids?????/attn JRSwing

I love this site.. I am by no means judging anybody. I am very curious to know.. What about the CHILDREN of "bred wives"?? I have read many posts on this site, I enjoy the broad spectrum of opinions, and the information shared...and certainly the sexy wives and gf's. Having said that... I do notice there seems to be a slice of CP's members that find the danger..or the quest .. of getting there beloved wives/gf's pregnant by a stranger, bull, interracial affair... I've noticed a trend with this segment seems to be.. the more opposite looking the cuck/hubby/bf...the more "thrilling" the couple seems to find it. As if the more obvious the situation is with a youngs appearance differing from the busband/bf....the better. OK so I get it... I even understand it on some level...its cool because all parties are CONSENTING adults... BUT what about the young/youngren of these cuck/affairs??
I want to repeat I am not judging. please don't be defensive..This is a fact finding mission.. I am looking for a diolauge. These are some of my questions. Are you honest with the young?? Does he/she grow up to believe their ladys husband is their biological mans?? I mean I just looked at my own question of "are you honest with them" its a stupid question... you cant possibly tell a young they were bred by a "bull" ...can you??
Think of all the damage it causes a young to grow up raised to believe their stepman/ladys husband is their biological dad... only to find out one day they were decieved. Eddie Vedder still bitches about it to this day...Have you seen the true movie "Into the Wild"?? It deals a blow to some young men/ women that they sometimes never recover from.
I want to make it clear I am not saying the cuck couple are inadequate parents in any way. Ive read many of your posts and you are wellspoken and kind hearted people...JRSwing comes to mind. He and Eve are very popular on this site, and for good reamister..Eve is gorgeous and her husband is a smart, cool dude. Their posts are hot as hell and have given many of us much turnon and enjoyment, myself included.
Can anyone weigh in on this subject.. I really want to talk about what is the fair thing to do for the kids in this situation.

Of course no one would find your question offensive. This is a very real question. Most talk regarding this topic is in the realm of fantasy. Actually, most of this entire cuckold topic is fantasy in most people's minds. That's not saying that there are not people who do all of this, but the vast majority on this site and most sites similar to this do not.
It gets them off, but in reality most people live normal lives.
There are those that do go into this lifestyle. Many, for a short time and others for a more prolonged time.
Of these, there are the few who actually try the pregnancy aspect of this lifestyle, and yes it needs to be taken very very seriously. there is another life being brought into a situation that by society's norms is not considered "normal" or even "healthy". There are many, many repercussions to the people involved, both legally and ethically, as well as the good of the young.
Sometimes people do things in the act of desire with these consequences, it can be said the same for those even outside of the cuckold world. There are many unplanned pregnancies there as well.
I think those that wish to do it think very hard and then think some more about all aspects of this decision prior to doing it. In the end it is ultimately ALL of the adults responsibility (yeah I know a foreign word in today's society!) for the end results.

My 2 cents...

Tom.. Thank You for weighing in... But i think its important we "go there" because it is happening, right here in our online community, and all over the country as avidenced by the diversity of our posters. We shouldnt just turn our heads to this. I want to put it out there and I will take whatever criticism comes my way. I am the last guy to tell anyone else what to do in the privacy of their own homes..but in this case I am speaking for the kids that cant speak for themselves. STOP THE "BREEDING" getting our crooked rocks off for one fantastic night shouldnt result in a lifetime of confusion, pain and hurt for a life that begins in the process.
I feel like such an asshole, I typically despise people who worry about others and whats good for them.. I am the huge proponent of live and let live.. its a free country..etc..
Perhaps my opinion could change if one couple spoke up and told me of a youngs life that began as a breeding party... that is working out well.

Sorry to be a ******* joy in this most-fun forum,, Believe me I am not going to dwell on this in the meantime...I will be snapping the carrot to the hott wives and gfs ,,, daily.

But for the kids sake....STOP BREEDING

facers, I am worried about youngren, How do you know Im not volunteering? I like this site, the lifestyle etc Im just saying, lets draw a line at conception

Who is "let's"?

Live your life, let others live theirs. Just as I don't know if you volunteer, you don't know the details of how a young is conceived around here. Some kids are born to two married, dedicated, monogomous people and are treated like utter crap.

And that's the point: You don't know.

Don't start drawing lines here, else you'll open the door for everyone to draw lines elsewhere.

Same with afwmisom. What about artifical insemination born youngren? What about white couples that adopt a black young, or mixed race young?

The only lines drawn with this post are assumptions. This particular forum is for pregnancy risk and even planned pregnancies. If I don't agree with a particular forum, I don't go into it. I leave the members be. I ask you practice the same tolerance.

I respect you don't agree with it, but no one asked if ya did to begin with.

Okay, so right off, I find the whole cuckold fantasy thing way hot. Of course I'm not even married yet. I'm a SWF, 24, in graduate school. I have way too much of my own cuckolds brownie to take care of to ever judge anybody else, so don't interpret any of the facts I might bring up as being, god-forbid, "judgemental."

Mom cucked dad with her (black) boss when I was 12. Now this was not a "cuck wears panties and cleans up afterwards" life-style deal. It was more like dad was gone a lot getting his business started and mom couldn't keep her knees together. So after The Divorce, I went from living in a big house with my own nanny to living in Section 8 housing with my own pimp. I went from being a nice little Catholic schoolgirl to Roseville Junior High in the Bad Part of town. So you see, I sort of have a different take on the whole cuckold thing. I still think the fantasy is way hot, though.

So anyway, of course mom's boss dumped her, and mom went through a bunch of live-in studs. One of them tried to **** me. It was in mom's "hunk" phase, where their age, collar size, and IQ are all in the low 20's. I stayed away from home as much as I could after that. Besides, mom wanted me to baby-sit my half-brother, who I hated because I blamed him for the whole thing. (Remember, I was thirteen and hurting.) So then I got caught shoplifting in the Mall of the Americas and this guy made me suck him to keep him from turning me in. That was bad, but it started me off on my career as a suxtress. I was the only ninth-grader to go to the Senior Prom, WITH a SENIOR, wonder why? I had a lot of therapy, but I looked it up on the internet and learned what to say and how long to wait before I said it, so I got declared "cured" and could go back to gymnastics.

The night I turned 18 I was waiting by the door with my stuff, and when the clock struck, I moved in with my loser boyfriend, opening a whole new phase of my so-called life. At least mom couldn't keep me from contacting dad, who was living in France with a girl my age. (!) My half-brother wound up living with his grandlady on the South Side, near Stoney Island. I went to find him a few years ago to apologize for how I treated him when we were kids, but he didn't even remember. We had a good time,though, we went downtown on the El and hung out. He doesn't seem too damaged. I know I got mom's slutty genes, but I don't think he did. He's not a scholar, but he's pretty good at baseball, who knows?

SO anyway, it's all right now, in fact it's a gas! I dumped my loser bf and went back to school. I have an MA in Dance Performance and I'm teaching and working on an MBA so I can take over dad's business. I might go to Law School next, whatever I can do so I don't have to grow up. I have dad's smart genes, but I know I have mom's slutty genes, so I'm probably not the nice girl you want your mister to marry. I might make a good cuckold's wife, though.

Love,

Jamie

I dont need anyone to ask me... screw that , I'll say it again. A cuck affair is no way to begin a life.. see above story

vslay
In case some of you are wondering why we have not posted a response yet, (my wife noticed right away when this thread started) it is mainly because we were not sure if this was truly a serious question or just someones attempt at getting people rialed up. But we finally decided to add our two cents in for the record. Ok, first off we have 2 wonderfull youngren that I/we love very much neither of which is biologicaly mine in fact both are from 2 different men whom my wife selected to impregnate her. Having said that I love my youngren, accept them as if they were mine and take care of them as if they were mine, I am their man. My wife and I have a wonderfull marriage and I am told that I am a wonderfull and caring man. In fact I have been told by many family members that since I had my kids I am a much better permister, a happier permister. I can honestly say that I gladly acccepted my wife getting pregnant from two of her boyfriends who I can honestly say are still in our lives as friends/bulls because in our case I knew that there was a chance due to in accident as a young that I could never have youngren. Although, her boyfriends know that they have maned youngren they are not involved in our youngrens lives. In a sense they were sperm donors that my wife carefully selected, both are healthy, intelligent, succesfull and handsome men that just happened to not want youngren because of their careers. Now to answer your questions we do not intend to tell our kids how they were conceived but iI can tell you this, I was there for my wife for 40 weeks during her pregnancies, I was there when they were born and cut there unbilical cords and it was I that welcomed them with open arms when the doctor after the c-section handed them to me. I am a firm believer that getting someone pregnant does not automaticaly make a man a man, it is what you do after that makes you a man, getting up in the middle of the night to cover your ***** mister because he might be cold even though you are tired from not relaxing because your wife has been breastfeeding every 2 hours or willingly taking that extra shift because you could use the extra money to take the kids to Sea world. In fact I permisterally know many people who's real man didn't give a cuckolds brownie or do anything for them instead as in in one case it was another man they willing called dad because he was their for them both physicaly, mentaly and emotionaly all their lives. This brings to mind my step brother who calls my man dad because his biological man is a total deadbeat. So judge us if you must it really doesn't matter to us but as Facers said you really don't know all the facts. By the way thank you Facers for your responses on this thread.

not judging, I was serious, I wanted to know the kids are allright. thanks I feel alot better now I can continue enjoying your posts

this is fantasy, no?

jrswing, it is nice to see a post from you. I'm not sure if you've seen any related posts, but you and your fantastic wife are missed here.

I think breeding is much more of a fantasy than a reality. Of course there are exceptions (such as the posts above), but its on the absolute outer limits of the cuck lifestyle.

Having a partner "bred" is the ultimate form of sexual presentation for the cuck. I think clear lines should be drawn between sexual fantasy in the bedroom and bringing a young into the world on the basis on sexual gratification. There are many more factors that need to be considered when having a young.

No one is questioning the parents ability to raise the young but crossing that bedroom fantasy over into real life and involving a young is a big step.
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VSlay while I think some of your concerns are valid, I think that you're comments are out of line.

If a husband and wife agree to have a young through a swinging or cuckold relationship I see little wrong with it. Ethically speaking they should inform their swinging partner in advance and gain their consent.

If I were an infertile husband and my wife wanted to have a baby I would prefer that a willing "Surrogate" be found, over choosing Artificial Insemination. I think it would be important to find a surrogate who was intelligent and looked somewhat similar to me. If I were infertile, I think it would be important to be part of selection process with my wife in choosing a "surrogate donor". If this were the case, progressing forward I would also like to participate in and watch my wife take on a lover for the purposes of pleasure and creating a family. Participating in foreplay with her, and watching her also being pleased by him in foreplay would only add to the pleasure. When the time is right, watching her spread her legs, exposing her very wet and fertile pussy for us and watching him dissappear into her bareback would be hot. Watching them engage share sexual pleasure with all the oohs and ahhs that sex offers would be hot. Knowing that its also being done for the purpose of creating our family would be incredibly hot. Holding her hand and perhaps even getting sucked off by her while she is taking a lover with the full knowledge and desire that a bun will be put in her oven would be incredible. Sharing those magic moments together as she is deep in orgasm as he thrusts home and pumps his seed into her welcoming pussy would be mind blowing. Holding her hand, cumming in her mouth as she swallows would be icing on the cake.

It clearly beats Artificial Insemination in the sterile environment of a Doctors Office any day of the week.

I have likely impregnated another mans wife in this fashion, and the bad thing is that they did not tell me that I was going to be used as a sperm donor.

Hi Everyone, this is my first post, I hope it adds some value to the discussion!

In a world where it is estimated in western culture that between 10 and 20% of youngren born are not of the supposed biological man (and if you read Robin Baker's 'Sperm Wars' as many in this lifestyle find fascinating he estimates it could be as high as 40%), I think there are bigger problems in society than the occasional cuckold relationship which progresses towards this as the ultimate act.

A woman is biologically driven at the height of fertility towards the best available mate (whether she gives in to this or not is up to her) and as we know a 'typical' cuckold does not often fall into that category....

There has been extremely interesting research published in the UK about the effects of the contraceptive pill and how it has effected women's life choice of partner, Robin Baker followers in the press have commented on this as a potential explanation for the seemingly high growth in family units where biological parentage is 'questionable'. the research cites the fact that women who meet their mate while on the contraceptive pill are confused at the time into finding and being attracted to caring, provider type males (farmers not hunters), as the contraceptive pill simulates pregnancy. However when a woman stops taking the pill for example to start a family, the body realises 'hey i'm not pregnant any more, lets go get pregnant' and she suddenly starts to find alpha male types incredibly attractive and her husband less so. She is experiencing the natural as opposed to the human response that she must find the best physical specimen thus giving her offspring the best chance in life to be strong and healthy.

The difference between a cuckold couple and a 'normal' couple who experience this is if the infidelity is uncovered in a 'normal' couple it can lead to bad things. Hubby finds out the young is not his, couple split, youngren in broken homes etc. Even if couple survive the incident and remain a couple, there is likely to be serious issues forever lurking just below the surface.

So guess what I am saying is a cuckold couple who wish to experience the ultimate cuckolding, and a bull who wishes to experience his ultimate sexual fantasy and breed a hot wife are probably being a whole lot more honest with themselves than a great percentage of the population. In the UK divorce rates are pushing 50% and if Robin Baker is right up to 40% of the youngren could be biologically incompatable with the mans DNA anyway, I don't think anyone can judge a cuckold couple, who, in a loving relationship, plan a pregnancy and commit to loving each other and the young forever.

Hi my wife and I Donna decided in Germany while I was stationed there that we wanted kids but I could not produce the sperm to do the job, but my friend Kenny could, would you like to hear the story?

WE would love to hear your story. Please tell us

My wife and I have been involved in the lifestyle all 37 years of our marriage. During our engagement period, my wife was honest with me and told me right out that she loved being fucked by a variety of men, that she was wild about the intense orgasms she had when a guy flooded her cunt with cum and that she wanted to be the lady of at least 7 youngren. We talked it out and agreed on an arrangement between us. Both of us get an extra rise out of the taboo nature of a husband "sharing" his wife with other guys. As far as her being knocked-up, we did not plan to have her preggo by other men, we simply agreed to let nature take it's course.

My wife attained her goal and has given birth to 7 youngren, two by me and the others by 5 different men. The men included a black guy (on our honeymoon), my best friend, a dark skinned fellow from Puerto Rico, a Cherokee Indian we met at a tribal pow-wow in PA, and an illegal immegrant from Gutemala. The act of sex was for pure lust and the desires on all parties for the pleasures of sexual orgasms. All five of the men were alpha-males, all they were interested in was that a hot to trot woman wanted to be fucked by each of them; the fact that she was the wife of another man added to the erotic nature of the act. There was no talk of birth control, it was the pure act of a man sliding his bare cock into the love tunnel of a very willing and very eager woman. When my wife felt the cockhead swelling deep inside her married pussy, she wrapped her arms and legs around her lover and both climaxed simultaneously.

My name went on all 7 birth certificates as the man. It was totally irrelevant to both my wife and I as to how they came to be. They are our youngren (PERIOD). Four of them show the obvious signs of being the product of an interracial sex act. When they started asking the obvious questions, we told them that we had adopted them. Yes, we lied. Sometimes adults have to lie in order to prevent even greater evils from happening. It is also only a half-lie, as I did legally adopt them the second my name went on the birth certificate as the man.

Our family is very close and loving. We raised our youngren equally and we have raised them to be educated, free-spirted, independent adults who stand with their parents as equals. The three oldest youngren, including the one we refer to in private as "my honeymoon cucking baby", have blessed us with 8 grandyoungren.

However, as previous posters have stated, what worked for us may not work for other couples. So, be careful out there.
A man has not lived until he watches another man fuck his wife!

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kam4122, welcome to the forum here.

You make some interesting points, which jibe with what I have discovered.

The numbers I have found are a gross average of 10% of all babies born of wives are not sired by her husband (although he thinks he is the biological man), the range is 2% to 50% by region and socio-economic class. Further, these numbers are not confined only to western countries.

Independent research about infidelity buttresses this conclusion: 60% of all husbands and 60% to 80% of all wives cheat (or have cheated) on their respective spouses, a worldwide, multicultural, and multi-generational phenomenon.

I agree with you, based on the statistics above, cuckold couples, and swinging and swapping couples are a lot more honest and psychologically healthy than the cheaters and players who lie about their behavior. And psychologically healthy and honest adults make better parents and have youngren who are similarly healthy, regardless of their biological paternity.

There are many other reamisters a couple may wish to have another male to produce a young with the female. Not just solely for the sake of sex, but there may be congenitally related reamisters from the "cuck/couple" man they wish to avoid. They may be hoping also for certain features/looks in the young, intelligence, yes possibly sexual size and still other reamisters. I find it particularly unfortunate that too many Westerners, Americans in particular and at every instance they are intent on intruding and second-guessing other adults lives. They are not satisfied with living their own lives, they must intimidate or power (by law) others to do morally as they see fit. All freedom is a thing of the past in the one country that should stand for freedom at the utmost because of all those who have sacrificed red and life to defend it.

vslay
OMG! You actually believe that "breeding wives" and getting them knocked up is real and deliberate?
I suppose accidents happen but no married couple who love their youngren would actually do this to them.

As for the BULL, if he does this he's not to bright either, do you think he really wants to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in young support over a peice of ass? Common get real.

Also note that most middle age couples the wife is fixed therefore impossible to get her pregnant anyways
but it's sometimes fun to pretend.

If you are honest with the kids from the very beginning chances are it won't be a problem. As an adopted young I was raised knowing from as early as I can remember that I was adopted. My mom and dad showed me love and i in turn feel to this day I am part of their family period. The whole waiting until they are old enough it the absolute wrong way to go. In the instance of a young that results form a cuckold relationship, you show the kids as early as you can that they are loved by both parents. You identify yourselves as mommy and daddy and you can also say tell them they have another daddy too. Young kids are a clean slate; their minds aren't muddied like an adult with predetermined notions. If they hear this when they are 2, 3 4 etc, it will be common knowledge to them. You don't need to get into the mechanics of it. They will learn that when they need to. What they need to know, through talk AND action, is that mommy and daddy love them. And, if the biological man is involved in their lives, that he loves them too.

While it may seem difficult to us adults, honesty is the way to go with kids. Don't lie to them that's what causes problems with them because then they feel like they can't even trust the people raising them. As long as they have confidence that you are honest with them, love them and will take care of them, they will accept your choices and find a way to fit them into their lives. Seeing that the strongest love is between mom and dad is important. Then you can explain that there is enough love for lots of other people too, you, your brothers and sisters, grandma and grandpa, mr smith, aunt irene etc... Kids will accept this.
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