Emery111
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Hi People,
I'm just found this site. Have never shared or swapped or cucked or whatever you call it. My wife is a very pretty very small slender woman, body like a young teen girl though middle aged (Japanese). She's quite shy but I could probably talk her into letting a white or Japanese man penetrate her if I'm right beside her.
My question is more about ME, meaning is there a man here who's done that for the first time, seen her with another man all the way inside her, and maybe she's moaning and caressing his but or back and wrapping her arms around him and obviously in 7th heaven... how does that make you feel? I'm just wondering if I can take that, psychologically.
Any comments esp 1st hand 1st time experiences very welcomed and grateful. S
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skellyf
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welcome Emery. My wife and I are older but description of yours fits mine exactly.
As to your question: I had an INTENSE moment of panic the first time...actually not during the actual sex but before....when it first became clear that they were going to probably have sex. I broke into a cold sweat and was thinking "what was I thinking, with those fantasies? Am I crazy, to be pushing her to this? What have I done?" I nearly stopped them..I might have but I was thinking what she'd think, after I had talked with her and moved her TOWARDS doing just what I was getting ready to see. I thought she'd surely hate me if I suddenly got cold feet and tried to change her mind again! And...I can say I got past that panic, things continued and I finally did see it..and it was awesome.
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drpooky
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My first experience was over 20 years ago. I had found out my parents were swingers and so I decided to try play with my gf. Then I was 19 so had sex with the gf a bunch of times until I could not do any more; I figured this would make it easier. Called my roommate into the bedroom and everyone was shy. I put her hand on his cock and she pulled it back. I did it a 2nd time and kissed her, when I looked back she was stroking him. I was jealous for about 1.5 secs and then I got aroused. She moved to start sucking him and I was hard again so fucked her while she sucked him.
Most people that try this like it but you have to figure they probably don't get to the point of trying unless their fantasies show them they will like it. Therefore only you know if the thought of this play excites you and if it does, you will probably enjoy the reality. Be warned though, if you do like it expect a life changing event...you may learn things about yourself you didn't want to know. Opening Pandora's Box has both good and bad and it isn't really about the event as much as the ongoing lifestyle change.
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Ill second the welcome Emery, let me just say that the first time can be really emotional and difficult to go through with for some people. However, like skellyf said if you can temper you feelings and just commit to going through it and supporting your wife the result will be well worth it. I would also suggest getting a man/bull who you are both very comfortable with. Even if its someone you dont know make sure he is patient and understanding of the lifestyle.
Alos, I live in a geographic location with lots of asian ethnicities and having a Japanese wife can add a different dynamic. I have been the "other guy" for a couple where the wife was Japanese and what I have found is that the husbands tend to be very protective. Thats not a bad thing but if that description fits you just remember that she loves you and is doing this for you. good luck
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Emery111
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Very interesting, thank you all above. I watched some videos of this, but most seemed fake or at least presented some elements that don't fit my case. But one video hit me hard, the both guys were similar to me, the woman was a slender small pretty Asian (though not at cute as mine) and they did it in a straight-forward, realistic way. She was gasping and petting the stranger, and eagerly switching positions and so on. I was turned on but kept thinking "Could I stand to see HER acting that way with him?"
Thanks for the education(s)!
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Emery111
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FWIW here is link to the 'realstic' video I refer to above
The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!
This is pretty much how the two of us would look if we did it with a strange guy.
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Hawaii 5 O
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Emery111, Great video link. I think most of us who have these non-offense Cuckold desires/fantasies envision ourselves as depicted in the video. Your concern is, can you emotionally/mentally take the sight of your beautiful wife being fucked by a stranger AND witnessing her actually enjoying it.
This is where you both have to be sure that this is something you want to try.
When my Asian wife and I did this for the very first time it was similar to the video link you posted. I watched my wife being plowed and eventually I joined in. BUT we did this with a very close male friend. Someone we knew and trusted. We discovered we both enjoyed the MFM activity and then we started selecting males from AFF.
We'd go to a hotel, meet the stranger there, talk in the room, maybe have a take. My wife would eventually take out the stranger's cock, they'd fondle, she'd suck him, they would undress. I'd watch to the point where they started fucking. It is incredibly exciting to see my wife spreading her legs for a guy she just met. When the stranger is done using my wife, that's when I fuck her.... there is a great element of trust and understanding that goes into this activity. Fucking my wife after the stranger, assures her and strenghtens the marriage bond. That's my experience anyway
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Emery111
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HI50, thank you very much you have TOTALLY hit the nail on the head with this:
> beautiful wife being fucked by a stranger AND witnessing her actually enjoying it.
When I saw the couple in the video, so similar to us at least on the outside, and then she's so happy to insert him into herself, and she's petting, caressing, gasping, pulling his butt to get him more deeply inside - I was excited but horrified every time I though of my wife's body/heart/mind/soul being at least temporarily completely penetrated, absorbed, permeated, dominated, and overwhelmed by another man's body and penis. It's just unreal yet somehow attractive, and yes, without the big offense thing, just real people, that's what excites (but also freaks) me.
Your idea (I mean HI50's idea above) that I should fuck her immediately afterward right then and there, is a FANTASTIC suggestion. Take back her mind, heart, and senses before she's recovered herself and still in that weird female sex trance and sex flush thing (which she gets heavily).
OK if we do it I'll report what the 1st time was like, thanks to all here.
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asiansizequeen
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My first time with my boyfriend (both of us asian) was with a white guy he knew. It was very similar to the video. But what by bf didn't know was the white guy was substantially bigger than him... although he never mentioned it, I could tell it freaked him. So I guess be careful ... if you think that will be an issue make sure you invite the guy to your gym locker room to check him out!! In my case I loved it but not every woman will especially if you are pushing her into it. If she's not 100% for it and then she gets surprised with a big hunk of foreign meat she may just turn off to the whole thing. small girl who likes bIg men
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Emery111
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Wow ASQ, thank you so much for that. So now I'm wondering, if you loved his penetration that much due to size and/or other qualities of that man, did that affect your feelings and actions toward your BF thereafter??? When you did it with BF every time going forward did you have that white guy in your mind even as your Asian BF was in your body?
Anyway, it's a good size warning for me. She considers me quite large, but I think I'm on the average side for a white man, she just doesn't have enough experience, and she's super small/tight there so every guy seems large to her. I got thinking about this whole topic just because recently we attended a yoga retreat at a place that has natural hot springs which everybody does naked. She was very shy/slow to approach that, yet surprised me that after the first time, she became TOTALLY natural with that, even sitting in the same hot shallow small pool with multiple stranger (white) men all naked in waist deep very clear still water, side by side. There's a natural decorum to that so nobody's really rude, yet obviously every male there was checking out my girl's perfectly formed yet super small upright/perky Japanese breasts. And all their penises were just a foot or two away, obvious large and visible in the water (same as me too of course). So after a few of these sessions I asked her if she noticed the men checking her body out. She said yes of course (I guess women feel that kind of thing). Then I asked her did she look at the men's penises? She said that she had seen them. I said what do you think? She said HUGE and WEIRD to see them hanging out or floating like that with nobody concerned at all and chatting and so on. So I asked her, are most of those guys bigger or smaller than the white men who have fucked you in the past (meaning, before she met me). She said "I don't know, to me all dicks look so huge and kind of gross, they all look the same, SO WEIRD"
So you see she's not as sexually experienced and sophisticated as most of you people here. But then as we lay naked together with the above conversation, I started leading her mind, like: suppose I was right next to you, right with you for safety. And one of those men from the pool today were on the other side of you also naked, with his penis right there brushing your thigh, and he leads your hand to his thing, and gently lies over you parting your legs..." She started moaning and writhing and got SUPER HOT and pulled me straight into her and came like a little female wild cat, SUPER WET and pulsing and everything. Yet she wouldn't say anything about it afterward except OH that was nice!!
But it made me begin to think, hence this thread. Thank you sorry too long post.
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skellyf
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You guys mention fucking her right after....I think often that just depends on the quality and nature of the fucking she just got. I asked mine after one particularly intense round if I could screw her..and she just almost cried out that she was too tired..and then said later "if the guy does me well, then I should be too tired for any more...he should wear me out!" That made perfect sense to me. So keep HER desires and feelings in mind, too!!!
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Hawaii 5 O
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Emery111: Take back her mind, heart, and senses before she's recovered herself and still in that weird female sex trance and sex flush thing Exactly, she may get lost in the sexual moment with the stranger, but there is no 'love' or any kind of commitment with the stranger. You're both just borrowing his cock, so to speak. You may have seen the attached pic around. I'm kissing my wife, while my best friend from work (someone we've known over 20 years) has his cock in her. The picture was taken with a remote held by my buddy. I watched my wife spread her legs for him, he got in close and I saw him guide his cock into her pussy. At that instant, seeing my wife's pussy with a different cock in it, was an incrediable high. And knowing my wife was allowing my best friend to experience this wild pleasure by giving him her pussy was also mind blowing. I kissed her to let her know how wonderful she is. My buddy fucked her for several minutes like this and asked her, "Can I cum inside you ?(he was bareback)" She said, "Go ahead, I can't get pregnant".He gave a couple hard thrusts and unloaded his sperm in her. Of course I'm watching this whole thing. When he pulled out, I immediately went in. I was already hard. I told her she was now going to take her husband's load. She was just as "active" with me as she was with my friend. His cum acted as lubricant and I blew my wad inside her. As the 3 of us laid on the bed out of breath, all I could think of was my beautiful Filipina wife now had the sperm of two men swimming around up her pussy
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Emery111
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OH! Amazing pic... if I substitute my wife in that scene it blows my mind. Your girl has that same upper body se flush thing that my wife always gets... face and upper chest flushing red. I wonder what she feels more, the kiss above or the penis deep inside below. Only women would know.
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Emery111
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Hmm, I just found this paragraph in another thread by presumably same HI50, which EXACTLY describes my fantasy....
"My wife is Asian and she prefers white men. The most exciting for me is to see my wife on her back, her legs spread, the other guy cums inside my wife's pussy, bareback, and I can see his cum leaking out the sides of her pussy while he's still pumping her."
I would only add, to amp the intensity til my brain melts: if she were gasping and caressing his back and grabbing his butt to pull him even deeper inside.
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asiansizequeen
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Emery, yes i did often fantasize about the white guy afterwards when my bf and i had sex. It was mainly because the incredible naughtiness of the situation got me off so much harder. I would get wet just thinking about it for weeks, months afterwards. But the size warning is more for your protection than hers. As I said, my bf was dwarfed by his friend and it really messed him up. I am quite sure the main reamister we later parted was because he never got over the fact that his gf (me) was sexually satiated by a man who was much bigger and lasted longer than he did. To me, I got off well with both of them. But to him, he never got past what (in his mind) was a superior fuck that I got from his friend. Men are much more preoccupied with such things than women... small girl who likes bIg men
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Emery111
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AZQ that is an EXTREMELY helpful peek into the female MIND which seems to be much harder to get into than any other part of you guys if I may say it.
I am absolutely regular OK decent size length and thick for an adult white male, but I know from net porn that there are MANY men out there far larger than me, I mean even regular guys not even porn stars. So now your warning gives me something new that I hadn't considered. She is extremely small and tight down there, and sometimes even says I am 'too big' or 'just barely fits' to her. So as you said wouldn't THAT be a total mindfuck to me if I get her together with some guy, he whips out a huge one which maybe she then proceed to take inside with no problem at all and goes crazy on him! That would TOTALLY weird me out for life ha ha.
THANKS very much for the um... heads up on this point.
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Emery111
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Actually ASQ while I've got you here so to speak, I wonder if I could push the point a little deeper? I'm the first to admit I don't have a clue what REALLY is the thing that sparks females in sex. You talk about the newness and nastiness of it that soaked you out, more than anything else. So does that mean, even though indeed the stranger's penis was much bigger, that physical aspect was NOT really the thing that soaked you up, it was the psych factors?
I wonder whether my girl would just enjoy the physical sex for itself (but then is the physical part of it all that much different from just doing it with me, given that according to ASQ size really is not that big a deal to women?)
Anyway from this I gather that apart from any physical different, the IDEA of doing it with a strange man is in fact exciting and pleasurable to a woman. I wonder if that applies to mine... i need to talk to her in more depth, armed with these insights.
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asiansizequeen
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Emery, your understanding is correct. Although I would add that it is a combination of the factors that put a woman over the edge - the psych of the new, the bad girl aspect, the physical feeling of the big dick inside combined with the mental aspect of taking a large member, and of course the love of a partner that let's you do it (along with the dominance of your position while doing it) .... quite complicated i suppose but there it is...
So while the physical part may not differ or even matter much the situation is very different indeed. Some women (myself) are turned on immensely by both the THOUGHT and FEEL of the huge penis. Some just the THOUGHT, the FEEL is uncomfortable. Some NEITHER. And so it is with life... small girl who likes bIg men
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Emery111
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Thank you very much ASQ, you are helping me approach my woman in a much more informed way on this. She's still at the stage where if I bring the IDEA up (another man fucking her, all the way, while I watch) while we're naked caressing getting ready to do it, or while I'm already in her, she goes nuts and surges super wet and cums like there's no tomorrow. But trying to discuss or even allude to the idea in any other context is absolutely dead on arrival. If I ask but didn't you get super soaked and turned on when I spoke it while we were in bed? She just says: oh that was nice! (End of discussion)
So obviously I don't understand women at all but thank you ASQ for giving me at least a peep inside.
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skellyf
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Emery, it is so interesting reading your posts. As I said in an earlier posting/reply, my wife and I could be you....or could have been you...ten years ago or so. In your last posting, when you refer to her loving the idea during sex but then the idea being DOA otherwise--- oh yes, I remember that too! Mine also kept assuming that it was all a fantasy for ME too...I finally just had to be very blunt and say "NO, I REALLY MEAN IT...I REALLY WANT IT." and even then her first words were "you are crazy." Two years, a diamond ring and many other promises later...I finally succeeded....
Anyway- it really is interesting to read how similar your wife is now to how mine was then. Good luck! Don't give up...sometimes it does just take TIME for them to really understand.
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Emery111
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Thank you Skelly, we are WAY behind you in sophistication and experience.
But now, in part due to this thread's informative replies, I have refined my most basic, rock-bottom, soul-baring question that I didn't even know I had.
It is this (and I think mainly directed at any women here, at least I guess only they would know?), my question is: Is it EVER possible that a woman could just plain be so IN LOVE with her man that she TRULY, even in the deepest darkest part of her most remote outpost of heart, mind, body and soul simply WOULD NOT WANT any other man to touch her, just because of her total love for the One Guy (in this case, me). I mean for real, so even if God himself on his throne guaranteed her NO CONSEQUENCES of any kind, not emotional damage, no STD's, no pregnancy, no embarassing public disclosures, and if she were assured, truly for real, that I wouldn't be mad in the least, that in fact I would enjoy it - but just the pure chemistry of her True Love for her One Man just wouldn't allow her to be that way with another man?
There's an ancient Sufi proverb: 'In the desert, there are no signs that say: Thou Shalt Not Eat Stones'. Meaning, you don't need to forbid what nobody WANTS to do in the first place. Is there any woman for whom another guy - no matter how hung or handsome or hunky - but due to her genuine, almost chemical love for her One Guy, she just COULD NOT FUCK ANOTHER - ever.
Or is it the case that for ANY woman, there's some other stranger guy out there whose penis or body or something about this Other Man so sexy that the One True Love guy cannot provide, such that if the moon were truly in the right phase and the stars aligned ANY woman would just give in, spread legs, lie back and enjoy it?
What is the truth of it?
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Hawaii 5 O
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DCG, Great links . Thanks for sharing
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drpooky
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rara775...sorry for delay in response, just realized I had been asked to respond.
Basically by saying you may learn things you don't want to know I mean the extent of your desires. I think anyone with a fetish lifestyle tends to start with attraction to minor elements but then over time realizes they want more extremes. For myself when I started I thought I was being open and allowing her the freedom to try new things but in reality I learned I wanted it for my own reamisters too. It is not just in cuckold lifestyles but in BDSM or anything...what starts the experimentation is not as extreme as where you will arrive.
Not saying it is all bad either, some good parts to knowing yourself. I only caution that many will feel some regret over knowing the limits to their own depravity.
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AznAcceptance
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Just curious, ASQ, is race the issue for you or just size?
I've always only found White men attractive myself, and the size thing is just a really big added bonus.
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Marc williams
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Emery, I don't think you are ready for the plunge. You are over-thinking it! You know that you would enjoy watching your fantasy but you worry too much if your wife will like it too much. Well, i am a bull and i have been w/ cpls and yes, i have driven the wife CRAZY w/ orgasms but at the end of the night she goes home w/ the man she LOVES!!!! My size has turned off women because they couldn't take it because they were accustomed to their mans' size and happy w/ it. Not all women are size queens. Sex is awesome, love is much more important and i have never had any negative feed-back from any cpl who i was the third party with. Key is, find a guy who will respect YOUR wishes as long as hers! It will be a mind-blowing experience that you will love! I know you didn't ask for the bulls opinion, but i thought you needed to hear this.
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Emery111
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Marc williamsMarc, I -DO- care to hear the Bull's opinion, and I thank you very much for your reply and great insights. I feel you are very intelligent and sincere and probably most serious bulls are like you. However, you are absolutely correct that I did in the end decide I am NOT ready for the plunge, just exactly as you wrote. I went fairly far with it, in terms of net stuff. Got a profile for us on AFF as a white/asian couple, "looking for a man to do 1st time, petite Japanese wife". Then 4 pics of her (one showing nude upper body, her very small but perky A-cup breasts, the rest clothed but cute) and one of me with face hidden but showing full nude body and my soft (for that moment) but long/largish penis and more or less slender, yet muscular, body. I wrote that we wanted a decent, polite, physically presentable white man to have sex with my Asian lady, 1st time for her with a stranger, with me watching the action. Well, we were FLOODED with replies, hundreds in days. Some from couples and some from single men. My girl thought 98% of the men were, in her word: "Yuck!" (At least at this stage, she is NOT yet turned on by up close engorged penis photos). But there were about 3 guys she and I both liked the look of. I started corresponding with one of them. He was very polite, articulate, and his AFF photo was handsome, body strong. He did not show penis in profile photos. He wrote that he liked my girl's pics very much, saying how lovely she is, such a pretty face, cute small breasts, and sparkly eyes. As we wrote back and forth, he forthrightly told me that as a 1st-timer I need to be ready for some psychological/emotional reaction, because he said "you will be seeing me bond with your wife at a very deep level. Not just physical, but a kind of deep permisteral sexual bond." At the same time, he said just as you say, that he has no intention of intruding on the EMOTION or LOVE of our relationship. But he said we two (my wife and him) will be sharing moments and actions in which you (the husband/cuck) have no place. You have to be ready to be put on the sidelines like that by both me and her, the two of us (him and her) together. He wasn't talking about being gagged and chained to a radiator in a penis lock. He was talking strictly about the emotions I was almost certainly going to feel as he gave my wife "usually a continuous series of orgasms for up to three hours", putting her in "positions she has never experienced", going "sometimes very slow and deep, other times hard and fast" but before ever penetrating her he was going to "understand her, how she move, smells, feels, tastes" "who she is" by bonding through his very gentle touch - at first wholly or partially clothed... and during this I was going to start to feel her bonding to him sexually and getting incredibly aroused by his touch, being drawn into him. And could I handle that feeling? So he was rather forthright. Notice that what he's talking about above does not in any way contradict what you (Marc) said in your post. You talk about the bull not threatening the love of the couple. This is accurate as far as it goes, but as I thought about it more and more, and did some research, I began to understand the dynamic much more clearly. it's not so simple as you (Marc) and our correspondent bull (above) paint it to be. YES - you bulls are not out for "love". You don't NEED to be! But what you guys do want (NOT criticizing you bulls here, after all I entered this exploration voluntarily nobody held a gun to me, but I am giving my OWN final analysis here from MY *almost-became-cuck* perspective, so hang with me here for a minute longer.) Right - the bull's game is NOT to take or displace LOVE - because he doesn't need to do that. The bull's game is a POWER play and a SEX play, not a LOVE move in the least. Finally I understood the real dynamic of these encounters, thankfully in time to realize it's not for me at all (just as Marc very insightfully deduced). Here's the real dynamic: in the cuck's mind, it's all about his SEX FANTASY (and maybe hoping she'll have a good time, but not really thinking it through, at least I wasn't maybe others do so much better than I did). Just an arousing sex fantasy. Meanwhile woman is kind of going along with it, mostly in response to her guy's pressure, but maybe with some curiosity or excitement of her own. Nothing deep just the usual female go-along type of thing. So in the 1st meeting, the cuck thinks he's kind of controlling the scenario, driving the conversation - the alpha male, if you will. The bull politely goes with this at first, because he's playing a longer and deeper game. When both husband and wife trust him and are comfortable with his politesse and respect, they may agree to a 2nd or 3rd meeting, where it's finally going to go beyond just talk. Now the bull makes his move - quite properly after all, sex is what it was supposed to be all about. But subtly the bull starts to 'direct' the cuck - please get us some lube. can you sit over there? hang up my coat will you? In small ways, he subtly acts alpha. Unconsciously, this is what women love. The way to their hearts, minds, and vaginas. He knows that this polite casual alpha behavior is pure catnip to the largely ignorant and *** woman. Women aren't all that hard to mind game anyway. Then, mainly due simply to the freshness of the situation, yes he is able to get her extra excited, some orgasms - and the orgasms starts to bond him further to the wife. Where I'm going with this is that although the Bull is NOT trying to replace the husband as a LOVE interest (whatever that really means) nevertheless he is very clearly, either by his conscious intent (the smarter bulls) or just the natural dynamic of the situation, he IS going to replace the husband, by degrees, as her SEX interest. And that's frankly what matters to men a lot, and certainly it matters to me. Deep down, I don't think a woman whose partner allows/encourages the encroachment and eventual (even if gentle) psychological dominance of another man (and that's what having her spread her legs for him amounts to) can truly find that husband/man/partner sexy any more. I know everybody here will shout me down, but that's what I feel. The bull, just by following the dynamic of the situation, not by being crude or threatening or anything, WILL replace the husband - as the SEX interest. And sex IS the core of a strong man-woman pairing, no matter what anybody says. So to get back to ME (I know very well that others have radically different thoughts on this), I realized I was playing with fire like a stupid kid. Just for a quick arousal and brief viewing of my private little porn fantasy, I was going to completely upend the male female respect dynamic of our relationship, such that while she might go on "loving" me, she'd essentially lose all RESPECT for me as a man. I cannot tolerate that, call me an old fashioned asshole or whatever, it's not acceptable to me that I'd allow another man to do that to me, basically steal my woman's sex interest out from under me. I finally understood what this really is, not a sex game, but a pure power dynamic. And i don't let other men game me that way, certainly I don't invite and hold the door open for them to do that to me. I'm NOT some kind of caveman Archie Bunker or whatever. I'm very gentle and polite and supportive to my woman. But I need her respect just as I give her my respect, as her due. And this cuck fantasy game totally undermines that, absolutely. I realized it in time and shut down all contacts for good. The irony is that this man (the best prospective bull that I corresponded with, described above) also told me his penis is 5.5 inches when erect - while mine is just under 9 inches! So I decided *I* will be the one to give her 3 hour continuous orgasm from now on Anyway THANK YOU Marc, for your excellent note basically confirming what I finally realized (just in time). It's not a love issue, not even really a sex issue - its about power and respect.
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Marc williams
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Emery, I am happy that you made up your mind. I would like to add that if in the future you do pursue this, find a guy who will not dominate you and take away your masculinity in your womans' eyes! I only do that upon request but normally i treat BOTH parties w/ respect and therefore no damage is done as to who the wife respects more, which would be you! My role as third party is to enrich a marriage, not destroy it. Best wishes,
Marc marc-br549
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Emery111
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I understand and thank you Marc. I'm it isn't at all your permisteral intention to destroy anything. It is the situation that inevitably brings that about. Can't argue with 1 milllion years of male-female human co-evolutionary theory. Basically, more than anything physical (my penis bigger than my potential bull's) women get turned on more than anything just being fucked by the alpha male - WHOEVER he is perceived to be in the situation. inevitably if the situation is set up as indicated, that's gotta by the bull. Hence the end game is a foregone conclusion, might as well try to argue with gravity.
As for the average bull's conscious or *** intentions in the situation, you don't believe me? Then of course don't take it from me who hasn't bulled anybody, rather, take it from the bull's own mouth:
The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!
So I've decided to continue with my project of becoming MY OWN bull, be her ONLY ALPHA, and becoming her only bull she'll ever need: ME. That's sexy domination and she's already heating waaaay up ...
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Emery111
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Here's part of what the bull says in the link above (but there's a lot more interesting there). Reading this I realized the guy is TOTALLY CORRECT. It cannot be otherwise than what he has written, given the fundamental primatology of the situation:
As the Bull, your goal is to ultimately become the wife's primary sex partner and replace the husband in the bedroom. Don't feel bad about it. They want it every bit as much as you do, or they wouldn't have entered into the relationship in the first place. However, the reality is that you still have an uphill battle. They've been an established couple for years. Although their sex life may have waned recently, they still have a sexual and emotional connection.
Your goal is to break their sexual connection. Here's how you do it in three steps.
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wooha
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Awesome to read such a realistic composition depicting the balancing act that all of us "first-timers" must face, with the decision of to do, or not to do.
I too have become hesitant with the same issues that you have yourself encountered.
I'm interested in your current approach that you mentioned of "becoming her only bull she'll ever need. That's sexy domination and she's already heating waaaay up .." Would you mind sharing your ideas and what you have done to embark on this new road?
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