Girlfriend may possibly be interested... and feedback?

So I haven't been too active for a while because I'm in a relationship with someone that started a few months back.

I apologise if this turns into a massive post because there's a lot to this and I'll try and keep it as concise as possible.

So my girlfriend, lives in a neighbouring town but we see eachother often. She went to a leaving party for someone at her work a couple of months ago. She's not really one for big crowds so she ended up sat on her own and chatting to me on Whatsapp. I'll keep the detail brief but while chatting I made a joke about spanking her... well, it turns out she's very kinky. She hadn't indicated this before but the conversation suddenly became about kinky things and I got a bit carried away... I told her that I found the idea of being made jealous and one-sidedness a very kinky turn-on. It was one of those moments where the conversation goes a certain ways and then you start to feel like maybe you've said too much. She didn't react negatively but she did seem confused by it.

Anyway, I'm cutting a very long part of the story short here, but we revisited the kinky conversation a number of times over the next few days and she seemed to be probing what I'd said. In the end, I sent her some of the stories I've written (a couple of which I've posted bits of on here in the past). At first, her reaction seemed a bit mixed. I told her that they were just fantasies and not to be taken seriously but she strated asking me lots of questions. Then she told me what she liked and didn't like about them.

It turns out she found the ideas in them "very naughty but fascinating" (her words)! She particularly liked one of the stories that I've posted on here and the idea of the wradribe malfunctions happening in front of someone. She also said the idea of being watched while having sex didn't appeal and that she would "feel like a real bitch" if she did the stuff I'd written about.

I was surprised that she liked some stuff in them but not so surprised at her less enthusiastic comments. I thought I'd take what I could get! Imagine my surprise then, when she asked whether I had written anything else "naughty" like that!

Again, cutting a long story short as there's a lot inbetween but I don't want to write a novel! I have to admit that some of the things she had said had turned me on, so I started trying to push those kinkier buttons of hers a bit.

We roleplayed some stuff when we weren't together, over messages. I wasn't sure whether she was enjoying some of it as much as me - she started to get very good at the teasing and even started to tease on the one-sidedness part of things.I did wonder whether she was doing that more because I liked that than whether it held any interest for her.

Then, about a month ago, she suddenly sent me an email with a story attached that she had written (at work, apparently!). It was a story about a woman having sex with a co-worker... and this woman had a boyfriend (she didn't remark on that until the end of the story)! When I asked her about the ending, she told me that our conversations had inspired her for a "wicked ending"! I teased her, saying that the woman in the story sounded very familiar... and she replied "oh you got that impression, did you?".

Well, this was great! I've always wanted someone that I could share my fantasies like that with! I didn't think much more of it until a few days after when I tried bringing up the idea again in a chat, hoping to spark a roleplay.

It started but then she suddenly asked me whether I'd ever considered doing something like that for real!

The conversation then got very awkward. She became a bit evasive and I told her that I felt like there were things she wanted to ask but wasn't asking. I told her she could ask anything she wanted and that I wouldn't be offended.

Eventually she started telling me about how what I'd been saying had made her think about one of her best friends. I knew about this guy and I have met him briefly, he seemed ok but seemed to think he was perhaps cooler than he really was.

She had also told me the story about him. When they were a few years younger (she's known him for a number of years). They were in a situation one night where she said he could ***** with her. Meaning, literally ***** in the same bed as friends and nothing more. Inevitably, when they were in bed he decided to try and take things further. She became angry and kicked him out of the place they were staying. She'd felt betrayed as they were supposed to be friends. Now she told me a bit more. My talking about what we'd been talking about had made her think over a lot of stuff. She told me that she'd been a "very good girl" when she was at University but that later on she'd regretted not taking a lot of opportunities to ***** with guys. Later on she'd actually had a couple of encounters with strangers from dating sites that had ended with sex but she felt slutty and wrong. She'd had quite a traditional upbringing and she had a bit of conflict between wanting to do "the wild and naughty stuff", as she put it, but she felt like she'd be disappointing her family if they found out. She also admitted that that sort of made it exciting for her.

Anyway, this ties with her friend as they made things up after a few months of not speaking but she has always wondered what it would have been like. She admitted she had fantasised about him seducing her and them having sex. She also admitted that, again, she wished she'd let things happen rather than getting angry.

She then told me what her "number" was. She'd had sex with 15 guys. I told her my number was lower and that I found that exciting. She felt her number was low!

I have to admit I was getting off on this but also wondering where this was going. I sort of knew but it was a bit surreal her suddenly talking like this with me!

She then said how everything had made her wonder about revisitingthat with her friend. I was starting to feel nervous now and a bit scared. I hadn't expected things to go this way and I must admit reality started to creep into my mind. I told her the truth that, the idea both scared but really turned me on.

The conversation kept going back to this over the next few days. I thought about it and just asked her whether she was serious about it.

She told me that she felt scared by the things she was thinking but it was turning her on too. She said she "sort of likes the idea" but that there were lots of worries around it too.

Which brings me to last weekend. We'd been talking about it although not loads - we do talk about other things! But it had come up and we'd also talked about it (briefly) in bed.

She asked me again whether it was a serious turn on and whether I'd entertain the possibility (she has been stressing the word possibility over and over).

So I told her that it needs to be something we both want to try and we need to be 100% honest. I never expected to be trying this for real so it has always been a fantasy. I must admit I'm still amazed she has been thinking about it at all!

We had a huge conversation about it all of Sunday last week. We haven't set anything concrete yet. She told me he's still single and that she's pretty sure that if the opportunity came up, he'd do it.

So this week we've sort of been working on a plan for making it happen. We've both been fantasising a lot, as you can imagine, and she has said that she has to keep asking herself whether she could do the things she was thinking.

We've decided on a 'naughty girlfriend' route as she likes the idea of "being a girlfriend that people say can't keep her legs together for five minutes". I should point out that she wants to keep it between me, her and him (of course) should it get there! Having people talk about her is just pure fantasy. She goes to great lengths to explain stuff to me, so I know she's giving it a LOT of thought. She also constantly asks me what I think.

I also told her earlier today that I was thinking of posting on here and she said she found the idea exciting, as long as we can't be identified (I've left anything that could ID her out). She was talking about me discussing how my girlfriend can't control her urges so I know this idea is fuelling things. She's also asked for feedback (I'll talk about that in a mo!).

We've both said repeatedly that this is a strong maybe and either of us can agree to stop this at any time we feel we don't want it. I suspect she's more likely than me to back out and I've told her that she mustn't feel she has to because, ultimately, it's her body and her life!

She likes the idea of having sex with him as she knows him very well, she's pretty confident that he'd do it and she knows he's safe.

I'll tell you the 'plan' we've crafted together so far. It's very rough but it's from something I described and she seems to be hung up certain aspects. It goes like this:

She'd invite him round while I'm there too. We'd probably go out and do something but she'd make it seem like we're getting a bit annoyed with eachother. At some point, we'd have a mock argument. We're thinking this could be a kind of code for indicating to eachother whether we're both still cool with this going ahead. We've sort of got a script where I say something that indicates "go for it" to her. If she is still happy with it, she'll respond with something along the lines of:

"if you carry on like that, you'll be spending tonight in the spare bedroom".

If I'm happy for her to try to progress things, I'll respond something like "yeah, genius? And where will your friend ***** then?"

to which she'll finally reply "in with me".

I've told her that it's possible that he might laugh that off and view it as a joke but she has said that she's pretty sure that he probably will but will jump at the chance when she makes it clear that she means it. She's said that it still leaves a 'get out' as she could later just say to him that she was just joking about swapping the *****ing arrangements around.

Her idea goes like this: if he *****s with her, she thinks he'll probably behave because of last time. She has warned that he may find it quite funny that I'm banished and he gets to ***** in with her. He may offer to go home or ***** somewhere else but she reckons there's a good chance she can persuade him!

Ideally, she wants him to just come to bed with her. At which point she'll go off and get changed and then come back. She was talking about maybe wearing her short nightie with her underwear on underneath. I told her that would probably get him interested as he'd be able to check out her lovely legs. She does however seem to have lost her nerve a bit with that and has since revised it to her pyjamas which don't reveal much but the bottoms are tight around her bum.

She then imagines climbing into bed with him and saying goodnight. She's pretty sure he'd behave but if he doesn't, she has said "she could work with that"! Her idea is to make it seem natural, she'd maybe get a bit closer to him, maybe making out she's *****y, and then brush her backside against him. At first making out it was an accident but then doing it again... and again... she said she'll be horny and that things will progress from there.

She thinks it will likely just be "a fumble and fondling" but she'll have condoms in the bedside drawer, just in case!

I have to say again that this is just an idea that we've discussed and worked on. She loves the idea of it appearing to be a series of events that lead to it and that I'll know something is happening from the spare room.

I'm not sure whether she'll go through with it but she keeps kicking things back and forth with me, asking me things and telling me what she likes and what she couldn't do. So I think the idea is certainly holding a fascination.

Yesterday she started asking me how I would feel being outside of it. I told her that it's a big turn on for me - her potentially getting laid while I can only imagine what is happening. I do have concerns too but we've been talking them over.

I guess my biggest is what if she really enjoys it with him and develops feelings. She has told me that she wouldn't get feelings for him like that. She's really getting off on the idea of it being "a naughty shag" (again, her words!). She told me that she's worried I might see her as a slut after and lose respect for her. I told her that that wouldn't happen.

So we're discussing the heck out of this. We haven't said "let's do it this weekend" or set a date or anything. She has been talking to him and she has said she's confident that "things could happen" but we've both said we have to both say to eachother "let's do this" before really doing it and, even then, we're leaving plenty of opportunities.

If I'm honest, I think it's most likely she will change her mind. She has repeatedly said about how she might feel bad, feel wrong, etc. and, again, I've said it's her body and her life. She also said that the idea of it happening fascinates her, so yeah... pretty excited right now, even to just be talking about it this way.

Sorry for the long post but I'm excited and there's a lot to say!

So a little while ago, while I was typing the above, she suggested asking some stuff on here. She said that maybe, MAYBE she will consider saying or doing something if she likes the sound of anything suggested.

She's just asked about maybe dropping a hint to him that he could have her when he's there. I've no idea whether she'd do it - I think she'd be too shy! But let's see!

I suggested she could drop a hint by writing something on her arm or hand and revealing it to him.

Anyway, she asks:

* What should she wear when he comes over? I'd say keep in mind I'm there too and she wants it to look like a spontaneous thing so... no idea there other than normal clothes (I'm not sure what she wants here really!).

* What should she wear in bed (I thought this was decided but ok...!)?

* Can you think of any suggestive or slutty things she could do?

* What book should I read in bed while she's in the other room getting her world rocked (she actually asked this - I'm both surprised and turned on - she hasn't really teased me like this before!)?

To the last question, I've just replied back to her and asked "reading a book?! How long are you two going to be 'cuddling'? "

Genuinely surprised at that last one!

Oh - just to add that I meant to say about a few fantasy vs reality things:

She has said that there's no way I can watch - she told me she's "not a porn star!". The only reason I'll still be there, in the other room, is for safety (although her last remark makes me think it's also to tease me) she trusts him but she feels better knowing I'm there, just in case. Nice to be included somehow!

She has serious worries about the morning after. This is one of the reasons why I think this may just stay a fantasy - but I'm enjoying it all so far, no matter where it ends up!

An update: Well, I think she is still thinking this over and starting to take the idea more seriously. She was working yesterday and she's going to be busy most of the day today too but we chatted a bit last night and she brought the subject up, saying that it is on her mind quite a bit at the moment.

She said that she got a text from him yesterday and that she replied and they chatted a bit back and forth. She was starting to wonder whether she should say something. I suggested that maybe she should start to get a bit flirty with him and drop hints.

Her worry is that he will take it as wanting a relationship rather than just sex. I told her that maybe she should just make it clear to him that that is what she wants, when the time is right.

I learnt a bit more about this guy though - like I say, I've met him briefly and he seemed ok but he did come across as thinking he's really cool. I think that's one of the things that really excites me as it plays a bit into the whole cuckold fantasy - but I'm trying not to get too carried away.

She has told me loads that he is a good guy and that she trusts him and I trust her judgement as she has known him for years.

She told me last night though that he is a bit of a womaniser. Apparently that is why, when she was younger, she wanted friends only and nothing more. She said that she wouldn't consider him for a 'proper relationship' as "he can't keep it in his trousers for more than five minutes". She admitted that the idea of becoming "one of his conquests" was very exciting to her and it happening with my knowledge makes her feel naughty and slutty.

I asked whether she was worried about what it may mean for their friendship and she said that that was one of the things that she was very worried about. I took that to mean that it may spoil the friendship but her concern seems to be more that he may get the wrong idea and keep coming back to her for more.

I told her she can say no at any time but part of me wonders if there's a worry that she may like it so much that she'll want him to do it again. And again...

Anyway, she has said that she may hint to him in a text and see what happens. She's very shy about this sort of thing so I think, if she does do it, it will have to start off that way. She also said that maybe she should do something when she sees him to hint at it.

Sorry to keep posting but I don't have much of an outlet for this!

She's just told me that she's up for doing this. She's been thinking it over for the last few days and talking with me. She admitted she's turned on by the kinkiness of it but even more so that it turns me on too (it does). She still has worries about things but she wants to try flirting with him by text and then moving on to flirting in person, when she next sees him. She has said that she may be able to see him on Saturday next week.

I've asked her to tell me when she starts flirting with him and tell me what gets said. She has said that there probably won't be much to it but she'll tell me!

She has literally just asked me for ideas for what to say! I'm going to have to think about ideas for that...

I must admit that I'm very excited but also have reservations... I keep saying that she's my girlfriend and it's not like we're married so maybe I should just see what happens?

Looking forward to reading how this progresses

Well, she's definitely into this idea! We were texting before she started her drive home. She asked me again whether I was really ok with it and I told her what I said on here earlier about we're not married and if she really means it when she says she can separate things without our relationship ending then I was definitely excited and intrigued.

She has apparently been texting him a bit and she admitted that just texting him is making her horny because of the thought of where it may lead. She hasn't said anything yet but she told me that she plans to say something this evening. I did point out to her that it was funny that she asked me what to say to him! I just told her to say what she'd normally say when flirting but she said it was different as she has me. She did say it felt a bit weird but exciting!

She's doing the drive home now but I've come up with an interesting idea... no idea whether she'll go for it but I thought of maybe making it into a game with points for what she says or does.

So I was thinking something like:

10 points - for saying "I can't wait to see you again"

15 points - for saying "I've been thinking about you"

30 points - for saying "I can't stop thinking about you"

50 points - for saying "I dreamt about you"

100 points - for making a reference to how sexy she thinks he is

120 points - for making a sexual innuendo

120 points + bonus points - for making a sexual innuendo about him (+20), for making a sexual innuendo about her (+50) and for a sexual innuendo about them both together... (+80).

250 points - if the conversation becomes a sexual roleplay or just openly discussing sex

She doesn't have to say those exact things but if she says something along those lines. I know she won't do the more blatant ones but I thought I'd throw them in for fun and also to see whether it could up things!

I'm thinking of sending that and seeing what she says!

Thanks for the read, lots of detail and the thrill, excitement, and concern are all evident as you move to mange this a reality.
One thing I would say is that the planning is perhaps too detailed and is easy to come up with as a fantasy ideal when you doubt really know how the other person will react.
I'm not sure a mock argument for instance is the best way to start the ball rolling. It introduces an element of tension into the proceedings and if I was in his shoes I'd be heading for the door not the martial bed with the gf with a sullen bf next door.
It's good to get them texting, lots of subtle flirting can happen that way and it well build naturally but I don't like the points system and I doubt your gf will either. At the end of the day this isn't a game and if this other person is a friend having her day things to him just for meaningless points is insulting to both of them and potentially making a fool of her friend.
Having said all that, good luck in having things progress and I very much doubt your gf will be the one to blink first btw.
I'm looking forward to the next update

Thanks for the feedback and advice!

I didn't send her the points stuff - glad I didn't as she was very tired and pissed off by the time she got home yesterday because of traffic making her get home late!

She told me she wouldn't be texting him last night as she was tired but would text him during the day today from work.

She has told me that she is obsessing a bit with the idea and doesn't want to get carried away but she's also worried about what I'd get out of it. She told me that she couldn't do the reverse - me with another woman - so she feels like it could be very selfish.

I've told her that the one-sidedness and unfairness of it is a huge turn-on for me and why I'm so fascinated by it. She is quite kinky and said that she gets "the *********** thing". The idea of doing something slutty like this apparently tickles the *********** kink for her too. A little while ago she said that she likes the idea of both me and her friend going away thinking "what a slut!".

Agree with you regarding the whole fake argument - I wasn't very comfortable with it as I think it would just look weird. If I was her friend I'd just be thinking something doesn't seem right at all.

She was quite hung up on that - and still is a bit, I think - because I think she likes the whole "naughty girlfriend" idea (she mentions that a lot) and it plays to her fantasy of it being kind of a spontaneous cheating.

She seems to be driving this more than me - the last few days she has brought it up more than me. I've been a bit sceptical as she's quite shy when it comes to flirting, etc but she seems more comfortable with the texting route.

I'm going to suggest that maybe she actually just tells him at some point what she wants and that I'm onboard with the idea. That way I think it avoids any complication or him feeling like he has been tricked.

Just heard from her. She has texted him a couple of times this morning but nothing flirty yet. She has asked if I'm still ok with it and I've said yes.

She replied back saying she feels weird asking that but excited too!

See if she'll send him a sexy photo. Maybe take a few of her showing more and more.....then asking him for his opinion of what looks best??

BTW.... hope you share some of this wannabe slut with us too.
Cuck who loves a creampie.

I was in a meeting after lunch so have only just been able to update on here.

She sent me a couple of long texts over lunch. I think she's still undecided. She said she thought it might be over before starting as he was talking about a woman he met while he was away over the weekend (her second message said that it wasn't anything after all).

She has said that she wants to do it right as she feels like he might think she's a bitch if she isn't careful.

I've told her there's no rush!

I've told her that someone on here is saying she should send a sexy picture - I know she'll say no as she's not even ready to drop a hint in text yet! I do know that she loves the idea of being discussed on here though - she told me a couple of days ago that she wants to see what people are saying. She loves the idea of being thought of as a slut (and talked about as if she is one too).

Can we see the text message screenshots to bring some
Excitement to her so she can see her messages on here?
Droopy and Miss

Well, she's done it! Got this message a couple of hours ago:

"Arranged to see him Saturday & after all that carry on he knows I'm interested... just remember this is all your fault!"

She is joking, by the way - she's far from angry! She has said that it's actually a relief as she has been winding herself up about it. She's VERY excited, by the way (as am I!) and talking a mile a minute!

I asked about a photo and she has said she might have something but it will need to be cropped and blurred as she wears things that might ID her. So it's a "maybe".

Also, she was asking about what has been said about her on here and I pointed out she has been referred to as a 'wannabe slut' (from cuckold4one's post a bit above) and she LOVES that!

Not asking for a photo of her . Just screenshot of the text messages between you both?
Awesome update
Droopy and Miss

The mock fight might work if:
- it's quick and you 'storm off'.
- She turns to him being 'vulnerable'
- & he is the womanizer she claims he is.

Not the greatest way to start though.

I take it she is looking to him for a 1 time thing rather than a more long term fuck buddy?

Another options is for y'all to drive someplace separately, have the fight and you leave with the car to spend the night with your buddy, then he has to drive her home. Again, not the greatest but do-able.


Have her wear what she normally would, just with a low cut top


During the night in the lead up to the 'fight' (assuming you still want to do it) ha e her talk about a new exercise thing she's been doing. Then at night she can show him. I like the idea of a nightie/baby doll. Have her say it was new and planned for you but post fight she still wanted to use it.

Does she like to dance? Does he? Does he know you don't? If y'all go to a club, she can get some private time before hand to drive the interested part home.

Or snuggle on him in the middle of the night thinking it's you.

Or if you left separately, she can get a ride home, invite him in and start undressing in front of him, since it's just a 'platonic' relationship.


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Something about being a cuckold? Dunno.


Make breakfast for them in the morning to show you apologize to them both for the fight.

Yes, would love to see a screenshot.

Please let us know how it is going.

If she knows his favorite color, but the lingerie in that color. Same if he likes blondes, brunettes, redheads, etc. have her dye her hair that color and say things like ' I thought you liked women with xyz hair color' or '... the color abc clothes/lingerie'

I'm loving all this build-up. Reminds me so much of all the chats and discussions me and my wife had way back. As someone else touched on above, for all your planning and thinking about different scenarios, once the other guy is involved this all tends to go out the window due to the third party's input and intentions and things happen how neither of you quite expected, but not necessarily in a bad way!

I wish you both well though and am excited for you! I am definitely looking forward to further updates.
Peter C

I think she has gone off the whole mock argument idea - there were loads of things that could have gone wrong there although we both like it as a fantasy!

I had said that it will probably be easier (and definitely more honest) just to tell him - and that's what she did yesterday. Unsurprisingly, he's onboard with it! I don't think either of us were shocked by that!

They're meeting on Saturday but she said it's to talk so nothing is planned to happen but she said she wants to at least see what kissing him his like and she was teasing me about it last night which was really hot!

I'll ask her about screenshots - there's some stuff she doesn't want to be said on here and I'll need to blank out names and some other bits. I'll run it by her and see what she's happy with.

I'll let her know about the clothing suggestions, etc on here too. She was asking about whether anyone had said anything about that yesterday so she'll love that!

Is this actually happening or is this creative writing?
Droopy and Miss

Gordicron:

Glad to hear she enjoys being called a "wannabe slut", once she gets a taste for the freedom of being open to selecting different cocks to enjoy and knowing that you're cool with it, she'll crave the attention.

Hope you're ready to worship her cum filled pussy afterwards to show your approval to her new found adventure.

I also hope she soon has a discreet photo to share with us and maybe a few not so discreet ones to let him know she's game to play.
Cuck who loves a creampie.

Don't know all the details but she has told me that she might be changing her mind. Apparently he is being very pushy and making her uncomfortable.

She says that it's suddenly going a bit fast for her. He was asking about seeing her tonight! She said no and that she wants to talk on Saturday but he seems to think that Saturday is when he'll spend the night. He's also suggested that he stays the whole weekend which she isn't keen on.

She has said he's really persistent. Asking things and telling her to consider things.

Oh - to the question above: yes this is real.

Things seem to be ok - just been speaking to her on the phone. It seems he got a bit carried away with the messages while she was at work and she got fed up with it. She's now said that she doesn't want to talk to him about this while she's at work (it's ok for me still). They're still meeting on Saturday but it is just to talk about it. She said that she wants to make sure he's "on the same page" before anything can happen. She wants to see what it's like with him there, how she feels and then she wants to talk to me in the evening. She says she needs to talk to him about what he wants and then talk about that with me.

She also complained that now she has two guys making her horny all day and it's tiring for her (she loves it really!).

Mmmmmmmm.... maybe you need to send her a pic of your hard cock and let her know she's also having the same effect on you.
Cuck who loves a creampie.

Until I see some screenshot of texts or photo's I will treat this as someone's fantasy and just creating a story for everyone to enjoy
Droopy and Miss

shankly

I'm starting to side with you on this, there's a lot of talk but little else.

Not much to add at the moment - she was very tired last night and still is this morning. She doesn't want to talk about this while she's at work today as she wants to actually concentrate on work!

I'll sort some screenshots when I can. Like I say, I have to be careful with what I share and that she's happy with what I put on here.

Last night her messages were mostly complaining about bad drivers, being tired, being horny and how her feet hurt. I think the stuff she says when she's in a better frame of mind - when she's playful and teasing - will be more fun to share!

Also some of the stuff she says may be a bit of a shock - she is very much into the *********** side of things but she says a lot of stuff that might look like put downs about herself (and quite extreme ones too). As I'm into *********** too, I understand it but some of what she comes out with was still a bit of a shock to me the first times she shared them.