Pavlovian feminization

As a Dom I am considering some Pavlovian sissy training. And I would appreciate anyone who has tried this for a “reality check..” Did it work, what were the problem areas, what were the successes?

It would involve first keeping the sissy in chastity for at least three weeks. - total and absolute chastity (panties under clothing also an absolute at the beginning). The chastity would remain in effect after that initial period. Then establish a mental of link pleasure with fem. They, or anyone else is only allowed to touch , have them be milked when they are in full fem mode and having that impressed upon them by something like a mirror that they see themselves in. Kissing, touching or any act associated with sexual pleasure is only with men or other sissies and again only when in full fem. If a suitable male could be found, it would be nice to set “her” with a boy friend that they could date, dance with, stay over with and be sexual with again only when in full fem.

Anyone ever done this in real life?

I have not heard of this, but did read an article where the slave was always milked after being in chastity for a long period on a rug, following the same rules of having to get the rug out, the milking toys and wait for his mistress to milk him, eventually he would cum when told after he followed the ritual with no other stimulation from the mistress.

Not this exactly, but my wife very similarly conditioned me to redirect my orientation.

In my case the goal was to convert me from a submissive male with feminization fantasies into a committed gay slave. The manner of orgasms was controlled to ensure that I was always anally stimulated when I came - exactly to achieve the pavlovian connection you speak of. My sexual-stimulation of any kind was specifically oriented towards sucking dildos (and later cocks) or being butt-fucked, even when I didn't come. This was what sex became for me. Pornography was strictly limited to gay (or sometimes shemale) porn magazines, videos, and stories. Sometimes a women figured as a character in the written stories, but never in the videos or photos. In fact, for a long while I wasn't allowed to ever see a picture of a naked female.

We used chastity and watching myself in mirrors - and also some photo and videos. (It is very re-infor-cing to stroke to a video of yourself sucking and being fucked by a guy.) I was also pantied as you described - all my male underwear was tossed - but we went further. At home I spent hours in maid's uniforms (not cosplay, real uniforms you can work in) and in role as a sissy maid. Under my street clothes I was in not just panties, but garters and stockings in the winter. I wore nighties to bed and sometimes (not everyday) ultra-feminine robes and loungewear when "off-duty."

Two things we did that you haven't mentioned and may not be able to do: First, I was required to frequently "confess" aloud to her my sissy nature and my desire for cock. I had to beg her to be a gay slave and express great enthusiasm for all things gay and bottom. If I wasn't sufficiently supportive of the whole idea, she would become very unhappy and difficult. I also had to write her frequent notes and cards thanking her for my training and writing breathlessly of some of the experiences she gave me. I sometimes had to write-up for her accounts of what I was fantasizing about (nothing hetero allowed!) or reviews of what I found sexy about a a gay prono. Going out could be turned into an exercise in guy watching as she insisted we compare notes about which guys we saw we found sexy and why, and that I speak aloud to her in public places what I'd like to do sexually with them. This "Self-talk" therapy had a big impact. I think. Hearing myself say such things aloud so frequently that it became almost second-nature realigned my inner thoughts.

Second, and I think very importantly, she took steps to reconstruct my public social identity as well. My every holiday gift was related to my new orientation and role in life. I got subscriptions to gay magazines - and not just porn. I got uniforms and feminine clothes; cleaning supplies; condoms and lube; sex toys; ads on gay hook-up sites; etc. I got Tom of Finland collections for my bookshelves and gay porno calendars, screensavers and mousepads for my in-home workspace. I became a member of gay organizations and got on as many gay mailing lists - especially gay BDSM mailing lists - as possible. I had to wear panties to the gym that read "cocksucker," and carry water bottles emblazoned "sissy" or "cocksucker" there and for biking. (The gym is a favorite of hers. I also sometimes had to workout in a tee that said "sissy" across the front and had to take a pilates class for which I wore various feminine tights and leotards.) I was sometimes sent to the public laundromat in my uniform even though we have a washer+dryer set in home. Of course, I was also forc-ed to perform and confess for her lovers. But most of all, I was "outed" by her one-by-one to family and friends.

By outed I mean that we led our our friends and family to believe (sometimes bit-by-bit) that I was gay even though it wasn't really true. I was required to do nothing to contradict this impression and indeed often was made to confirm it or even confess. As this happened with person after person from my life, my social identity as a straight male vanished and I was accepted (or sometimes rejected) as gay. That I was straight became the secret, rather than our kinky lifestyle. I cannot emphasize what a role this can play psychologically. When there came a time that just about everyone in my life regarded my as gay, the reinforcement of being in and passing in that role really twisted things for me.

So what is the upshot? When I have sex dreams now, they are usually gay themed. When I fantasize, it inevitably involves gay acts and/or cuckolding. I set off the gaydar of men all the time. And of course, my sex life is exclusively gay even though I am married to a female. Sometimes I don't even like to look at pussy anymore.

So I think you can succeed in your project with the right subject and enough commitment. To those points: I was not a reluctant subject but cooperated all along. That said, I never really thought (and neither did my wife, to be honest) that it would work. We were playing a game of "forc-ed gay." Like a lot of sexual fantasy play it was a bit more than a game, maybe, but not really something we thought would change me. I was (and am) very submissive, but had never had very much interest in same-sex before this. This was my wife's fantasy, I just really got off on the extreme scenario, the all-encompassing nature of it, and the sheer "wrongness" of it. We were surprised (and my wife still feels a bit guilty) that we succeeded in "reprogramming" me - but there is no question that I was a willing, supportive, and re-infor-cing partner, not a victim at her hands. And as far as commitment, this project (if you want to call it that) took years. But although it took over completely our sex life and increasingly our entire marriage it should also be said that it was not pursued by us relentlessly. There were times when we backed off scared. Times when the realities of family, work, other interests sidelined things for months at a time. Most of all it was never really our intent to go public the way we have. We sort of backed into that and then ran with it to the point where it became the whole program.

Anyway, that's my story. In a few weeks we will celebrate (as we do annually) the 12 year since I have penetrated her (or anyone) and the second year since she banned my cock from feeling any human touch but mine. She says that she might someday relent on the later and let a man touch me again IF I become abject and debauched enough in my devotion to gay slavery. (But her fantasies in this regard are very severe so it doesn't seem too likely.) I think you can have the same with the right man.

Good luck!
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Thank you for your information. I am well aware of the commitment and the time involved. Currently I am looking at a cuckold couple. She is my submissive, "he" hers. And as you well point out, this is not a "game" to play at. It will be life changing. One of the reamisters I am looking at real responses. Before committing to it, and the work and changes involved, we all need some real experiences to look at. This is not a "jerk off" fantasy.

The level of life change will depend, of course, on whether his transformation becomes open or public at some point. But even if not, it is a change. I can't say it is right for him or not, but I can say that I found it a thrill of unimagined proportions and recommend it.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Part of the long term nature and completeness of the changes is, like yours, it can't remain private. Friends and family, will suspect, then "know."

And the way I play, something involving this much "investment" is not a lets try it and see if it happens. Going in, we are least committed to it long tern, very long term. If life changes that, fine, but we are committed to the long term, with its ups, downs and life events.