I_A_S_P
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FXbound: Has anyone else on this forum had similar issues and figured out the proper balance between fantasy and reality? I'm interested to hear your thoughts as a community. There is no proper balance between fantasy and reality. It sounds to me that you and she are well on your way to finding out why! She may already have a lover. I believe every cuckold should fuck another guy's wife before he puts his own wife into the game. You will quickly understand the reas0n when you see how a wife can behave once she's out of her hubby's sight! It doesn't matter how much you discuss things with her. The rules will change on the whim of the wife! Fantasy is a "safe" way of dealing with cold reality. Trying to actually turn a fantasy into a reality usually indicates nothing more than total lack of prudence. Look before you leap! ..............PSEUDO PERSON...YMMV!
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mecca410
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You speak of loving each other more from sharing this idea, or is it that the liberation of being honest and sharing your deepest fantasies and being accepted by your girl friend what is making your love stronger?
The fact that you talk about it all the time and both find things erotic is normal, on the border of obsessive but natural because of the taboo and erotic nature of cuckolding. You will hear some talk about it being addictive, it is and that urge to go the next step further will be there so expect it.
Now questions,
First. No, in time it will become normal and you will want to go further and once you open that door you can never close it again. Cuckolding will become the new norm for highly erotic sex, and if you end up with new girl friends and later a wife you will always desire it. Can it be healthy, well my wife and I have been married for 30 years and have played for 25 of them after she had an affair and I found it erotic. It has worked for us but it does revolve around cuckolding and H U M I L I A T I O N a lot of the time. Healthy? who knows? Works for us. Life is a risk.
Second, As far as drawing a line, you only control 50% of that decision. You are a true submissive from what you say, great, be that way, but you can talk about if it will be 24/7, or only when you two want to play the game to whatever depth you two want. We will plan a play date with her lover, then we will start to play the game a week or so ahead of it. I will remain in chastity, will be submissive to her more of the day. If our lover wants to play femization she will ask me to wear sexy panties and night wear in prep and that night. If it will be slave role I will be expected to play more the slave role leading up to the date, bondage gear.
Do not bite off more than you can chew though. I disagree, you may very well find you both want it to be permanent roles? Read "Elise Sutton homestead" page about femdom lifestyles. It is a great resource and has guidelines and Q&A sections and does talk about cuckolding in a female supremacist relationship. Check it out if you haven't already.
you say She still wants to be able to see me as a strong, capable man, and I still want to see her as my loving girlfriend who ultimately puts me before others and would stop the lifestyle in a moment's notice if I asked her to.
Well she will look at you differently no matter what, good or bad, strong or not, straight or bi. But it you are both in love it will be OK. What if she does not want to stop? Again that's only 50% your decision.
Do not fall victim to boundaries, make agreed limits but understand, in the moment lines get crossed, FACT. Do not paint yourselves into the corner of once a line is crossed its over, have flexibility. Remember no matter what, you will be taking a risk that it will end your relationship. People do not know before hand if they will love someone. It may happen, understand that. But....you will still desire cuckolding in your next relationship, it will become part of your DNA almost.
Part of the thrill in the anxiety of that fear, and the risks you are taking. one major cause of marital affairs is that risk. You will experience every emotion, fear and insecurity in you all at once but your cock will be hard a steel. It like a **** or a amusement park ride, pure adrenaline. Good luck in your ventures. I have found it to be great, and always look forward to playing the game. We do not live a 24/7 dom thing but during her lovers visits I do. It will lead to you being somewhat bi sexual as you will in time fluff, and clean up. We have found it very hot for me being in a 69 position on my back licking and sucking her clit as her lover takes her doggie. HOT My wife loves it and she enjoys the idea of some mild bi action in situations like that. Just realize how far it may go and once the door is open, it is wide open!
Good luck.
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cuckchris
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We've been doing this a long time now. It has even progressed onto her working as an escort on occasion which she loves. People willing to pay her really gets her going. In our sex life she is 100% in control. I haven't been inside her for so many years I've lost count.7-8 years perhaps? She has had over a hundred lovers since we started over a decade ago the majority of them bareback and I have cleaned her almost every time. I under go testicle ******* regularly and she makes me worship her feet almost daily. But in normal life we're still very much partners. There is some overlap. For example she doesn't drive so I drive her everywhere. Sometimes when she's going out with friends or her ****** and they query whether I will be happy to take them she lets them know that I'll do what I'm told. But with very few exceptions that's as far as our lifestyle spills into normal life. Her ******, sister and closest confidant know of our true relationship. Her friend even knows of the prostitution side. None have ever mentioned to me they know but I get the odd smirk etc. Some people we go to great lengths to keep out of the truth because the reality is they wouldn't cope with the knowledge of such a libertarian lifestyle. As we get older though that list is shrinking as we are less bothered about the opinions of others and society in general gets more sexually liberal. My advice would be to be very selective about how public you become. At least until you find your way to what makes you happy.
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i122
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FXbound You have an interesting delima. Also in my opinion you are exactly on point pertaining to play fantasy and real life worries.
I think you will have to figure out how to handle play time. That's exactly what it should be is "play time". You two should keep it as a sexual adventure and not look at it as a lifestyle. I am guessing you have not crossed any boundaries as of yet. I would recommend logging onto an adult web site that allows video chat rooms. Once logged in have your wife engage with other people in the chat room. Consider how you feel when she is sitting naked masterbating on camera while watching/talking to other guys stroking their cocks in front of her. If you get a boner watching her video chat with other naked men then take it a step further.
If you decide to take it further have her go out dancing alone while you are sitting at home alone wondering what she is doing and with who. If you still enjoy the cuckolding then slowly creep forward.
If you want to move forward then you have a major decision to make. Do you get her fucked by someone you or her know or find someone unknown. My recommendation would be to go back to the Video chat room. If there is someone close by, and there will be, arrange a date for them. For this date you should not pressure her but more encourage her to enjoy herself in a guilt free manner. Help her pick out a nice outfit and help her prepare for her date.
Hopefully it will be a pleasant experience for all concerned. After she returns tell her how proud of her you are and how much you love her. Allow her to reveal as much about her date as she wants too but don't be demanding or pesky about it. Then wait several weeks or even months before requesting she do it again. As time passes and the both of you become comfortable sharing her maybe you can become more a part of the activities. In a perfect world she will get to the point of wanting you under her licking her clit while her stud is fucking her doggie style.
Good luck
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macca121
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Great to see a serious theme, and lots of good advice here.
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I_A_S_P
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FXbound: I_A_S_P Interesting take. So, is it your honest opinion that it's not possible to engage in cuckolding in a way that's safe and healthy for the longevity of your relationship? There are plenty of cuckold relationships and swingers that thrive on this kink! I don't believe that getting into a real cuckold situation with your attitude, outlook and lack of reas0nable prudence is in your best interest. What do I know? This is simply my $0.02. Reality will eventually decide your issues! Best wishes! ..............PSEUDO PERSON...YMMV!
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stubbyhubby36
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I didn't even read anyone else's response because as soon as I read the question I had my response.
How do you seperate the two? If a man is a true cuckold and a woman is a true cuckoldress then that is an integral part of your life, not a different life. My wife and I do not live different lives. No, we don't walk around with cuckold tattoos on our foreheads, but our daily lives are like everyone else's, but with a cuckoldry twist.
For example, my wife goes to work every day just like everyone else, but she always dresses every single day to be desirable to men. She wears "Come Fuck Me" heels every single day. If there is 6 inches of snow outside she wears boots into work, then changes into CFM heels once she is there. If she goes to a high school football game (like last night) she wears skin tight jeans, a low cut team t-shirt that she ordered online, CFM heels, toe rings and anklets and every horny guy in the stands in on high alert when she walks by.
When we go shopping I spend part of my time picking out new nail polish for her toes that I think will be attractive (I have a foot fetish too). I see men constantly checking out her feet and many men have hit on her and many have ended up fucking her because they complimented her feet, shoess or foot jewelry. Birthday, anniversary, and Valentine's Day gifts always include an anklet or toe rings.
When she is clothes shopping I always help and we always look at something she is thinking of buying from the perspective of if it will be flattering to her body and revealing enough. If a dress or skirt is not short enough or a blouse is not low cut enough, it gets vetoed.
Her tattoos are strategic...on her foot to draw attention to her feet and attract the foot guys, and on the back of her neck to give guys an excuse to touch her hair and neck when they ask to see it. Her next tattoo will be two dripping cherries [u]very[/u] low on her groin so that when she shows someone they also get to see her pussy a little bit.
Some people may somehow seperate their lifestyles, but for us her sexuality is who she is and what our relationship is about. 40's MWC In Need Of Hung Bulls - Any Race
I love to be humilated over my little 3 inch dick.
I watch you bareback her then I clean up.
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kennyboy82
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stubbyhubby36
Fantastic response. Really excellent, and honest too.
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Linda38DD
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Dear Fx bound..Like the others I agree that if you really get into cuckolding it will change your relationship forever.I have one friend who wasnt changed but they aproached it more like swinging but he didnt participate..He was a good lover but just wanted his wife to be happy and was willing to let her play..
I agre with the others FX if you embark on this journey it will change you both..I have quite a few friends in this life style and only one in the past 20 years have I met a couple that wasnt changed.They aproached it more like swinging except he didnt participate and they avoided any type of long lasting relationship with another man.. .. In my case I didnt follow that plan, my husband is very submissive but a great provider and a awesome dad for my kids (he wasnt the biological ********* over time I lost all respect for him as a man and a lover.I cut him off 17 years ago..I fell in love with a very dominant man, gave him a *** which eventually broke us up..I came to view hubby as more of a servant, I am sorry this happened but I cant now change my view of him, I love him like a brother ,a totally subserviant brother ,a weak one at that.. . If either of you find that you cant stand this best stop now because she will cange..God bless you and good luck dear Linda
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kennyboy82
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FXbound I've sent you a pm.
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subman
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I have no experience but you may consider going slow with it. Set some check points with each other every few months.
Do like i122 said with slowly easing in to it. Have the conversation the after, the next day and a few weeks later.
For 1-2 moths try out - chastity where she lets you out upon conditions she defines and you meet.
- she can spin a story about the chastity device and she can let someone know while you are present about wearing it. This is easier if you are out of town together. For example, take a road trip to a state or two away (assuming you are in the US) and when at goto a restaurant with friendly waitresses ( such a sports bar type) and let the waitress know if she seems up to it. You will have to gauge their reaction first though.
- similar to above but she flirts with other guys the whole time. This creates and immediate feedback loop you two can talk about.
- just simply do everything she asks, no questions, no delays. (Harder than it seems at least for me).
- spoiler her absolutely. Drive her everywhere like cuckchris said. Learn to give messages, etc.
- assess how you feel when she dresses like stubbyhubby36 described.
- if she works and has to be out in the evenings for things like dinners, help her dress sexily (but appropriate, since you don't want to get her fired) as if she was going on a date. Just because she's not wearing underwear and playing as if she was going on a date be fucked, doesn't mean she can't tease you about it. She also doesn't have to tell you it's a dinner date or not. She can also get a hotel instead of coming come immediately home after they are done. When she does get back, she can role play she did get fucked by some guy she picked up. A condom and dildo would go a long way in the story about her getting it before she left the next morning.
Just some ideas that give you a feeling of what it may be life without jumping in the deep end.
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