Not all cucks are wimps!

One man's opinion. I disagree as you well know. But I've never objected to your right to your own interpretation of the language or your own theory of the fetish, so long as you don't insist that everyone else agree or try to delegitimize or shout down others with sophistic nonsense about the dictionary. As a wise man once said:

"This usage stuff is not straightforward and easy. If ever someone tells you that the rules of English grammar are simple and logical and you should just learn them and obey them, walk away, because you're getting advice from a fool." - Geoffrey K. Pullum, "Does It Really Matter If It Dangles?" Language Log, Nov. 20, 2010
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. The definition of cuckold is neither ambiguous, nor subject to random interpretations. That's why Webster publishes a dictionary.

The end.
cuckold - Pronunciation - kuk-uhld - noun 1) The husband of an unfaithful wife. 2) A husband whose wife has sex with others. NOTE - It does NOT say: Sexually confused, submissive, humiliated, sissified, crossdresser, cocksucker, or piss drinker

All words are subject to interpretation and most (if not all) have multiple definitions and ambiguous nuances that can only be clarified through context. That is why there are so many dictionaries with such varying focuses.


Dictionaries are published for wide variety of reasons, that is why they are nearly all abridged and none claims to be the final, unambiguous last word on definitions and usage. (For the purposes of practical lexicography,you should read the fine wikipedia entry: The hyperlink is visible to registered members only! In the case of the MW Learners the purpose is, well, to make money. But the purpose intended for users is to assist non-native speakers to learn basic conversational American English. As I said before, read the preface and they clearly say so. As a result, they have selected (again, they say so) certain words and definitions and left out others. Which is why it is worth looking at what other dictionaries say.

As we have seen, other dictionaries are not in concordance with the MW Learner's. Even others published by Merriam-Webster. That's some ambiguity of definition right there.

The general usage definition of "cuckold" - left alone the simplified definition designed for ESL student reference - has little to nothing to do with the word's usage the context of sexual fetish, which is what I was talking about in the first place. And yet you ranted on about MW Learners, ducking any discussion (friendly or otherwise) about the merits of my original view of the fetish itself.

Why is that?

Is there some reason you are afraid to discuss the psychological dimensions of the fetish? As someone who is passionate about lexicographical issues you don't strike me as a fellow enthusiast, so it is very suspicious that you are focusing so much on that aspect (particularly since you don't have a leg to stand on) rather then the larger issue. Are you avoiding something?
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

TL/DR. Your attempts to repackage your flawed opinion yet again in another attempt to usurp the English language continues to fall on deaf ears. The earth is round in shape, electrons are negatively charged and a cuckold is a man whose wife has sex with someone else. Simple stuff, really. Easy for most people to comprehend.

Here's some study material: The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!
cuckold - Pronunciation - kuk-uhld - noun 1) The husband of an unfaithful wife. 2) A husband whose wife has sex with others. NOTE - It does NOT say: Sexually confused, submissive, humiliated, sissified, crossdresser, cocksucker, or piss drinker

SheDatesHeWaits

Deaf and defensive ears, I would say.

You're actually making my point here:

Physics is not my strong suit, but if I recall correctly, electrons are negatively charged, but that is far from a sufficient or complete description. Electrons are all sub-atomic particles, for instance, but you wouldn't say that all sub-atomic particles are electrons. Then again there are other sub-atomic particles that are negatively charges, such as Muons and Tauons, but that doest make them electrons.

To complete the analogy, just because cuckold's have wives that have sex with other men, it doesn't necessarily follow that anyone whose wife has sex with another man is a cuckold or that is all the attributes there are that make one a cuckold.

The world is round is another good example of usage being flexible. We all say the world is round, but we know that isn't precisely true (http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/earth-is-not-round/) and what we mean is that the world is generally, sort-of spheroid in shape, not round like a chalk circle or a bicycle wheel. Like circle, cuckold can be used in different senses depending on the context.

By the way, why all this projection suggesting that I have an agenda to usurp English? I believe I have stated several times in good faith that I don't believe I set the definition or meaning of "cuckold" or any other word. (That appears to be your conceit.) Do you doubt my good faith?
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Yes it does. You're just wrong. Any man whose wife has sex with another man is a cuckold. Read the definition.

CUCKOLD : a man whose wife has sex with someone else

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It's simple. It's clear. It's not subject to modification based on your interpretation.
Never be afraid of the truth. It will set you free.
cuckold - Pronunciation - kuk-uhld - noun 1) The husband of an unfaithful wife. 2) A husband whose wife has sex with others. NOTE - It does NOT say: Sexually confused, submissive, humiliated, sissified, crossdresser, cocksucker, or piss drinker

You are simply being dishonest. My interpretation isn't the point, yours is. YOU are insisting on an interpretation based on the wording on ONE minor dictionary which is an outlier even among dictionaries.

Read the definitions:

The OED: "A derisive name for the husband of an unfaithful wife."

The Random House: "The husband of an unfaithful wife"

The Cambridge: "A man whose wife deceives him by having a sexual relationship with another man"

The Merriam-Webster: "A man whose wife is unfaithful."

The Oxford Advanced Learner's: "The husband of an adulteress, often regarded as an object of derision."

You can add to that the way the word is used in psych literature and fetish subculture chroniclers. But instead of these clear examples, you cling to the ONE dictionary you can find that has a definition that suits YOUR interpretation.

Are all "alpha cucks" this insecure and desperate?
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

I'm not going to get hung up on semantics...I'm not a wimp (martial arts, college athlete, powerfully built). My wife's current boyfriend is a little scared of me, and is always on his best behavior on dates with my wife. I get the whole *********** thing, and how it can be a turn on. I enjoy knowing my wife is hot, and someone else is enjoying her too. Maybe it's a pride thing, whatever.

the term whimp can be an effective tool to get my hubby where he loves to be. In sub zone. So, i use it, but he is not a whimp. It takes a man witth great confidence to allow and enjoy his Wife with others.
stupid questions dont exist...
stupid answers however....

Well these battles simply never get solved with these back and forth messages; I know because if been in them myself.

I will say this though. I tend to agree with MrsBBB. It seems to me that the majority of PCC's threads are centered around the dictionary definition of the term "cuckold". He chooses to live his life according to a book definition on his chosen life style. It obviously means a great deal to him, as he postulates constantly on the matter. He appears to take offence at those who do not agree with him and is bombastic and overly assertive in his deliverance of his arguments. One simply cannot live a life by book definitions.

On the other hand you have others, like MrsBBB, and myself, who feel that "cuckolding" in practice, not by the book definition, has a much more faceted presentation. Just as one may term themselves a "conservative" it has a broad brush stroke in how that may actually present itself in practice/life.

So no one is going to find solace in my words here, or indeed resolution. Its enough if they can just accept that we each choose how we wish to label ourselves, and no person, book, or thread, is going to change that in most cases. Just get on with your own life and let others do likewise.

pops

Definitions are important to communicating. Otherwise the zebra weighs less colors for shipping until under flags one smiles whilst zipping until we can't defecate on demand you know what I mean? If everyone used wrong definitions then caldrons would intermediate and nobody would know how to sew flags while the pitcher was throwing a touchdown and nobody could communicate.

There's only one definition of a cuckold in the English language. People can twist the definition all they want into "their personal version". But it doesn't change the actual definition. I will continue to clarify the correct definition. It has no bearing on what version or subgroup of cuck you want to practice... Hotwife, wife sharing, whatever. Have at it. But we're all cuckolds by definition and I find it odd that everyone is so insecure about that simple fact.

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cuckold - Pronunciation - kuk-uhld - noun 1) The husband of an unfaithful wife. 2) A husband whose wife has sex with others. NOTE - It does NOT say: Sexually confused, submissive, humiliated, sissified, crossdresser, cocksucker, or piss drinker

Yes I get it, dictionary definitions are important to you, they are just not that important to others, cant you see that??? They have a much more relaxed "street" approach to the whole cuck scene. They are the secure ones, whereas you seek security and confirmation from a book which affirms your precise vision of cuckolding, whereas others, being more relaxed, adopt a more global interpretation.

Now just let the differences lie, quit with the freaking links, and try not to convert everyone to your way of thinking...I'm so done with this one

pops

popeye1 This discussion is only about the definition of "cuckold".

Definitions are important to everyone. It makes communication possible. Some insist that cuckold now has a "new" meaning, and must include other fetishes like FemDom, interracial, bi-male, crossdressing, etc. That's incorrect. Those are separate fetishes. Websters dictionary has no "new" definition for cuckold that includes those fetishes, so people should stop insisting that "their" personal preference has someone become the "new" definition of cuckold, which we must all honor. The definition of cuckold is unchanged. If your wife is unfaithful, or she has sex with someone else, you're a cuckold according to Websters dictionary.

I've seen nothing in this discussion telling anyone how to practice their particular version of cuck. It's only about the definition.
cuckold - Pronunciation - kuk-uhld - noun 1) The husband of an unfaithful wife. 2) A husband whose wife has sex with others. NOTE - It does NOT say: Sexually confused, submissive, humiliated, sissified, crossdresser, cocksucker, or piss drinker

Well, here one study, not as formal, but quite credible on the original subject ("not all cucks are wimps!"): The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!

Although the survey was only made to cuckold wannabes (CW), I think it confirms what we all know here (or we should know): not all cuckolds are equal (therefore it's natural that we disagree, and we don't have the same tastes or opinions).

In question "what type of 'want to be' Cuckold are you?", these are the results:

Voyeur 30%
Bi 14%
Sissy 11%
Chastity 27%
Hum1liation 18%

Clearly, the question is incomplete, because the same individual may fall into two or more sectors, but we must understand that this is not a scientific study. However, it's among what little there is on the subject.

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On the other hand, the study reveals another funny things, such as:

1) 2 out of 3 CW want to take the fantasy reality.
2) 2 out of 3 CW consider themselves alpha males.
3) 2 out of 3 CW think the wife should practice sexual denial with her man.
4) 2 out of 3 CW think cuckolds tend to enjoy masturbation and fantasy more so than having sex.
5) ¡90% of CW tend to be sexually submissive with his partner!
6) Only 13% of cuck fantasists considered themselves to have a small penis.

Just for fun
It's obvious that English is not my native language. Sorry for any inconvenience. My blog (spanish): http://keratafilia.blogspot.com

But if that were true, you would have to admit that this one, single definition requires: (A) a heterosexual marriage + (B) a betrayal by the wife. By this definition, nothing we do in the fetish qualifies because it is consensual.

What is the deal with your worship of your one, cherry-picked, dictionary entry anyway? And you insistence that words are so crude and inflexible? Did you never study usage in junior high school English class?
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.