Bull & GF hoping we're not alone in this :-)

Hello Cuckold Community;

My girlfriend Amy and I have both recently joined this site (together). We started dating about 3 years ago (shortly after I started my job where I work). At first I came onto her not even knowing she was married. I liked the way she responded to me, and when I found out she was married kind of thought she was just being a tease. Eventually we did get together though (on a business trip, first time), and in time she finally communicated how it was with her and her husband, Bill. I hadn’t really ever heard of “cuckolding” before, but have learned as we have gone along. Over the years I have really fallen in love with her, and we have a very tight relationship, both at work and in our time outside of work. There is a special status that she and I share over her husband and it means a lot to me knowing that she prefers me, and I am really more her idea of how a man should be (in and outside of the bedroom). There is also a security for both of us in knowing that Bill will love and support her and any kids no matter what.

I never really thought I could “share” a woman – but as a “bull” I don’t really feel like I am “sharing” her – it’s more like she has this man who loves her and supports our relationship –and between he and I it’s almost like a landlord-tenant type of relationship with him as the tenant. Now I really don’t think I would want any other type of relationship and I like being a ‘bull’ even though I have only had this type of arrangement with Amy.
Now Amy and I are contemplating having kids together, and taking the relationship to another level. My parents know I have a GF and that I’m not interested in marriage (my parents themselves were never married, so they are pretty kool about it) – but they don’t’ know about Amy’s cuck-hubby etc.

I am interested in the perspective of other “bulls” in serious relationships with women, or who have had families in this lifestyle about what your experiences have been. How did you get into it, how did you learn you were meant for it, and how do you handle the complications surrounding it? Any perspectives from other bulls/wives who cultivated their romance at work and the whole dynamic around that would also be kool to learn about. I’m also interested in any steamy ideas about how Amy and I can further build our intimacy and the special status we share together. I’d be very open to sharing more about our experience as well.

What I’m really hoping for here is supportive friends who love this way of life as much as I do and who can exchange ideas, thoughts and chat regularly. I would especially like to be friends with cucks, bulls, wives or couples that have been doing it for some time and who believe in the lifestyle (and don’t just see it as a game).
Hit me up if you want to be friends, or just chime in here!

Thanks,
Jamister

Interesting post. Just to clarify, does Amy still have regular sex with Bill, or are you sexually exclusive with Amy? Have you met Bill in permister?

TP

Thanks for the reply TP,

Once Amy and I started, she and Bill have had sex less and less, and generally (from what she says) it tends to be oral (him performing on her). Like most cucks (from what I read here and elsewhere); he doesn't seem to be able to give her vaginal orgasms from penetration (it's almost always clitoral from oral) -- I sort fo wonder if this isn't a very common thing in cuck marraiges? So, there is 1 kind of sex she and I hae (vaginal, with penis, both partners cum); and another kind she and him have (clittoral, from oral, often only she cums). It seems like ours is more intimate (at least she says so, and it would seem to make sense).

However, we have also had periods with him in a chastity device, and are thinking we should do that when we start trying for a baby. Somehow that would give me peace of mind (even though I trust both of them). Wonder how other bulls have felt about that. (Still trying to understand why it matters so much to me).

And yes -- I met him actually before Amy and I started dating. Even though I only really got to knonw him after I learned he was a cuck, and she and I got serious. I stay over at thier place usually a few nights a month; and sort of 'keep tabs on him' to make sure he treats her well etc. (which he does).

Since I really got serous with Amy and became the "bull" he has become more like a tenant/or maybe employee (IE i somteims give h im chores, to-do lists etc.) -- and establishing boundaries as tohow much he can know/see of Amy's an my relationship has been an issue almost from the start.

Soooo interested in how things liek this have worked for others.

thx.

Jsn.

I permisterally don't think it can work it's great in fantasy but not in real life.
Kids bring a different dimension and I think one of the relationships has too finish.
Sorry but just my opinion.
Droopy and Miss

Well;

With all due respect to shankly -- I probably shoudl clarify my post. I'm not here seeking advice on whether we should pursue this lifestyle inthe way we do (plenty of other places for that). I'm also not looking for people who think things seem like nice fantasies, but don't want to build a life out of it. I'm only here seeking friendship & connection with others who find ways to make it work adn who find it worthwhile.

Hope to her from any others who have positive persoectives to offer.

thx

Jsn.

No offence taken Jamister, but I think you will struggle to find genuine people on this site. My wife and I are 100% genuine in this lifelestyleif you fancy chat you can pm if you like??
Droopy and Miss

Welcome to the lifestyle.
There are genuine people here and you can find a great deal of support an people to bounce Idea's off - but there are some idiots and people it seems cant read. Don't let that take away from the positive support you can get here!

As I said - welcome.

I clearly read what he was saying and just gave my opinion no need to call people idiots
Droopy and Miss

Jamister_N_Amy:

Welcome to the site!

Many view the cuck lifestyle is a diffrent way, we don't all enjoy the same kind of stuff.....but there are alot of true cuck/hot wife couples on here.

If what the two....(or should I say, three) of you are into...... is your own business. If everyone is enjoying the ride, then go for it.

Have fun! Hope to see you both around some more.
Cuck who loves a creampie.

Hello Jamister_N_Amy,
My wife & I are also truly a Hotwife & her Cuckold, but our experience of this Lifestyle (..a word that I immensely dislike, btw. Most of the people who use it, do so to describe something of which they disapprove) is very different what what your Girlfriend and her Husband have. My Wife has short-term affairs with various men, and AFAIK is not in love any of them. Indeed, she'll flee from men who seem to be getting too emotionally attached.

The topic of Bulls maning youngren with other mens wives does of course come up here quite a bit. It's a turn-on for many of us Cuckolds, the humilation & embaarassment of your wife bearing another man's baby (especially Black man's baby) arouses us to no end.

But it is also true that having youngren is serious business, that needs to be said each time. You are bringing another innocent life into the world, a permister who will be dependent on his/her parents for near two decades at least. What many couples find to be a delightfully titillating and arousing fantasy or fetish-lifestyle in their current marriage at the current time can rapidly become untenable when faced with the reality of young-rearing.

Which is not to say that you should not impregnate Amy and make babies. But for the sake of the young you'd better make certain that you are all on the same page for how the next several decades of all four (or more, Amy might have two or more!) of your lives are supposed to work.

You have said nothing about what sort of relationship you expect to have with your youngren, I sure hope you've thought about it much more than what you've said. Wll they know you? Are they to think of Bill as their man or you? Will you be an 'Uncle' or a presence of any sort in their lives? Even if Bill is the more masochistic kind of Cuckold, he may find that he cannot simultaneously be a source of love and respect and authority for his youngren on the One Hand and Your & Amy's humiliated Wimp Cuckold Hubby on the other hand. Children need a normal, stable life. Even as teenagers they can be traumatized by things like the sudden discovery of the true relationship between you, Amy, & Bill. It can be especially traumatic & disruptive if Amy & Bill already have youngren.

Are you prepared to provide financial support for the youngren should that becaome necessary? Should Amy & Bills marriage come to an end, as Cuckold-Hotwife marriages can, will you marry her? This is all stuff you should think about & be prepared to deal with.

I could not handle raising any more youngren at this stage of my life. (I'm 58 & my wife Lisa is 47.) If she insisted on bearing and raising another man's young it could mean the end of our marriage.

But again, I'm not saying don't do this. I'm just saying to do it right, for everyone's sake and especially for the youngren's sake, and I'm also saying that doing it right means that there is agreement, or at least a shared commitment, between all the adults that will be in the youngrens's lives.
Old Enough to know better...but I don't!

Jamister_N_Amy

You do well to heed the wise advice of shankly and gsndhyte! You want friends? Friends don't give "positive advice" to stroke your ego and tell you what you want to hear. Friends (or just people who have a caring and natural affection for others, for that matter) will give an objective opinion of your actions and ideas. This is often contrary to what people want to hear but need to hear! These folks have just given you some priceless advice and you have received it with a very punk assed attitude.

To put things succinctly: You, Amy and Bill can do whatever you want together. If the three of you are foolish enough to bring youngren into this world based on your ridiculous wife, cuck, bull "family foundation" you plan to "build" THEIR lives upon... Do the world a huge favor! Get yourselves neutered and then buy some rope and hang yourselves! PLEASE! Understand???
..............PSEUDO PERSON...YMMV!

Well, I cannot regard anything that Jamister_N_Amy have written in response to any other poster as "Punk Ass-ed" in attitude.


And I am not prepared to dismiss this as ridiculous either. Many wives really do become pregnant and bear another man's youngren, and raise them with their Cuckolded Husbands.

I think it is good that you have enough of a realization of the seriousness of all this that you are asking the questions that you are asking. And the questions that I raise above are things that you may have already thought about, and just did not write about. But in any case I think you do need to consider them and other real issues, I hope you will.
Old Enough to know better...but I don't!

Well said Gsndhyte - I think your wisdom has been well received - looking forward to seeing you and Lisa at an upcoming party.

Blake

I'm so smart, I've got brains I haven't even used yet!! (In fact, some say that most of them are in that category...)


I am very much looking forward to it!! I am going to try and remain celibate until then. (But no guarantees! )
Old Enough to know better...but I don't!