The Reality Of Cuckolding-Fantasy Versus Reality

I have been coming to this site and others for several years now and was actually a cuckold with my ex wife. My current wife and I met at a BDSM party and we are both very educated in D/s activities, having taken classes, read books, gone to seminars and with real life experience in both roles. I have fucked other men's wives with and without their knowledge of what I was doing to their woman.

I am going to compile a list of the realities of cuckolding and what I have learned from it all. This won't be pretty, fluffy, fantasy or jack off material. If you want to chime in, feel free and if you don't find it appealing, there is a lot of fantasy writtings and pics on here to go to. Why waste your time on my thread. No offense to anyone. This isn't meant to say that EVERYONE feels the same way I do and I am sure there is a small percentage of cuckold relationships that work and that are in direct opposition of what I have learned. I DO feel though, that what I will post is what cuckolding is about the majority of the time. But then again, it is just MY opinion.

My first gripe: I have seen cuckolding described in writing as: "When a man's wife fucks a black man." For some reamister, a lot of people think that cuckolding is the same as interacial sex. I see so many pics of black men fucking white woman or white woman sucking black cock. When I see those, I don't think of cuckolding. I think that it might be husband and wife or boyfriend/girlfriend having sex. Of course, most of it is probably professional porn stars and the marketing director knows that interacial sex scenes are quite popular and are associated with cuckolding because the black guy could NOT be that white woman's husband. Sheesh, this is 2012 and a lot of people marry outside their race these days so I don't buy it!

Oh, and by the way, not EVERY black man is hung like a donkey. Some have little dicks and some have big dicks, just like white men do. But that is a whole different gripe I have that will be covered later.

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wannabedom

Well said. I amazes me how many people who speak of cuckolding have no idea what it really is. They think it is a woman fucking a black guy or just screwing around, they have no real concept of the mechanisms involved in this life style. Many movies on the subject inaccuratly portray the woman as the cuckold, in titles like "cuckold wife" that show just a man and woman together with no sign of the womans husband. All mostly ill-informed pro stuff that tries to make money out of the scene.

One of my biggest issues are wannabe cucks, who want to be "in charge" and control things around their wives etc. A true cuck surrenders all of that to the bull or the wife, and does what he is told, at least those who really follow the code do. I have wasted countless hours on cuck wannabes who whine about this and that and dont do the duty befitting a true cuck hubby and just do what they are told. Its OK if you are not into that, but dont call yourself a cuck or wannabe.

There are in fact only a very few true cuck movies available that I have found, perhaps in the 5 - 10 range, in all my years doing this.

This for most is fantasy land but hey whatever floats your boat seems to be the order of the day.

good luck.

I agree WannabeDom.

We actually decided to see what all the hype was about and found it Very hard to find one of those BBCs to begin with. She let a cpl of them fuck her and it was kinda beautiful to see the black and white bodies intertwined but honestly I'm not at all racist so it just didn't change a thing compared to her being with a white guy. I wish the focus was less on race than on it simply being Someone other than the husband. Someone that has something to offer the wife she isn't or can't get at home.
Kokomo, IN

I agree completely that anyone who would describe Fetish Cuckolding as "When a man's wife fucks a black man" are obviously ignorant on a number of levels; but it is true that it is common to mix IR fetish with cuckolding fantasies, so I can see where the misinformed get this impression.

I have personally never been particularly moved by IR fetish, (my screenname is a long story) either by itself or combined with a cuckold fetish, but I do get it. At root, Fetish Cuckolding is an BDSM kink where one partner (usually male) submits or endures a level of psychological or emotional stress. The deep racial baggage of the modern world weighs on the psyches of us all in someway. Is it really so surprising that some folks fetishize their fears around it in this way? Or that others use the racist stereotypes and notions to denote status reduction? (In the same way that cross dressers use outmoded patriarchical notions and stereotypes of sexuality like "the french maid?") Or incorporate fairy tale gibberish about penis size and sexual appetites?

Of course cuckolding doesn't need to be a white couple with an outside black man. The trio could be any set of racial combinations (or gender in my view.) But it also could be exactly that combination and still be cuckolding and I don't see what is wrong with the people into that splicing the different strands of their kinks in this way. The mistake comes in thinking that just because cuckolding CAN be IR, that it always is.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Norman Mailer wrote "The Primisterer of Sex" in the 1970s or early 1980s, when there was alot more overt racism against Black People than now (I think racists are more subtle these days), but I think his analysis about sace and sex still applies today. He wrote that people in the 'upper classes', the people on top economically and socially, are predisposed to think of people in the social and economic underclass as being hornier, more potent, more promiscuous, and generally more sexual than the 'ruling class'.

This applies more widely than just to Black People, It's why Lawrence made Lady Chatterly's Lover a worker on her estate; it's why such liamisters between well- (if round-) -heeled women and workingclass men are so titillating. But the history of negro slavery makes an especially potent dynamic for Black People, at least in the USA. When a Black man with a Big Cock makes a Cuckold of a White Husband, he feels a little bit of the inadequacy he'd feel were his wife taken by a Stallion or a Bull. (Hence the name, 'Bull'.)

I've never been so narrow-minded about Cuckoldry myself, I'm white, my wife is black, and her tastes run more to white bulls than black. It's just the idea of my wife giving it all to another man that turns me on, especially a man who Fucks her better than I can. His color doesn't matter.

People are picky about definitions in other ways, too. Some people want to say that you're a Cuckold only if you don't know that your wife is spreading her legs for other guys, and if you know about it and accept it you're a 'Wittol'. I find that to be overly pedantic. I'm a Cuckold, and sometimes I know when I am Cuckolded (soemetimes I even get to watch), but I'm sure that there are times when she Cums around another man's Cock, and he Cums in her Pussy and/or her Mouth and/or even her Sexy Ass, and I'm completely clueless. Both ways turn me on!
Old Enough to know better...but I don't!

Here is another little "Fantasy" that just doesn't fit sometimes: I WANT TO BE MY WIFES COMPLETE SLAVE 24/7

Well, let me tell you. The fantasy of it is fine but the reality of it I think would really SUCK. Imagine getting up at 7am every weekday. Getting the kids ready for school, packing their lunches, driving them, dropping them off, etc. Then, you get ready to go to work yourself. You work 8 hours, get off at 5pm, go home, cook, serve your wife and the kids dinner, clear the table, wash all the dishes and pots and pans and clear the counters of the mess you made. Now it's around 7:30pm. Time to vacuum, clean the floors, toilets, sinks, dust and clean anything else you "Mistress" wants done, all while she relaxes and watches T.V. Now, it is around 8:30 or 9:00pm. Time to get the kids ready for bed, brush teeth, pajamas, bedtime story, etc. (This is if you have a young one...or two). Now it's around 9:30pm. It's now time for YOU to get ready for bed, unless your wife wants a foot or back rub. Now, it's 10 or 10:30pm and you finally get to take a shower and go to bed around 11pm so you can get up in the morning to start over. Now, imagine the weekends where your wife makes you work from 8am until 9pm non stop. Imagine how tired you would really be. I think one would get burned out after a short while.

How many of you have a wife that is a bitch to you? How many of you hate it? Imagine her being bitchy that way to you 24/7 with none of the "Mistress/slave" stuff involved? No teasing, no sex play, nothing of the sort. Just mean bitchyness. No foot licking, no ball kicking, no flogging or spanking of your ass. No getting on your knees. Just full and complete denial of anything sexual...period.

Let's say that part of your slavery is being in chastity. How many of you masturbate and cum everyday? How many of you do it 2, 3, 4 times a day? Could you really go without cumming for 5 days straight? And again, with no sexual play involved. Or maybe she would tease you so you will have a case of blue balls.

Or do you sort of like what you are doing now? Getting to masturbate while looking at the pics on this site or doing so watching porn on youcuck.com or getting your wife posted on cuckoldfart.com. But what if she said, "No, you are not allowed on the computer and I am NOT going to do anything sexual with you...I am the Mistress and you will do as I say and I say, nothing sexual between us...just misery for you." Sounds exciting doesn't it? But that is because you are allowed to masturbate and fantasize about it. The reality would make a lot of men say, "Fuck this, I just want to play with my dick and cum." Just food for thought and it doesn't apply to everyone out there as usual.

PS. And what about the saying, "I WILL DO ANYTHING MISTRESS!"

Mistress: Okay slave, go out in the back yard and eat my dogs cuckolds brownie!"
Slave, put on a tu tu and heels, clown make up and go to work like that for the day.



The above phrase ANYTHING also cracks me up when I see subs saying that.

Okay, this is more of a gripe or maybe it is something to look at:

Why is it that these so called "Dom Bull Masters" don't show their face pics? I mean, are they worried that someone will look down on them for wanting to fuck other men's wives? Are one of their coworkers going to recognize them and say, "Ha ha ha....I saw your picture saying you want to fuck a cuckold's wife....you are a loser." I don't think so.

On the same page, why as cucks are we so okay with showing our wife's face but not ours? Do we really think that if someone recognized her that they wouldn't know who the husband is? "Hey, that's John Smith's wife....wait, what does John Smith look like again?"

So the Dom Bulls don't want anyone to know who they are, the sub cucks want everyone to know who their wife is but don't want anyone to know who they are. But if someone in this lifestyle knows who they are, maybe they would know it was okay to try to seduce their wife.

But I am still not going to show my face pics. LOL

I see a lot of ads for men seeking a woman to cuckold him. Really? I mean, what woman in her right mind wants some spineless wimp and possible sissy for a partner. Why would she need him? If she is looking for a man, then why wouldn't she just find a real man to be with. Woman in general don't want a wimpy guy to be with when there are a lot of real men that they can be with.

Same goes with men seeking a woman who already has a lover. If she already has a lover who satisfys her, then why would she be looking for a sissy cuck? Let's face it, woman want intimate time alone with their lover. They don't want some drooling pansy ass stroking his little penis in the corner leering at her while she is making love to her real man.

The same goes with you guys who are married and have cuck dreams. You wife doesn't want to be with another man. She married you because she loves you. She wants to be intimate with you, not some stranger. She doesn't want you to be a wimp or a pussy or a candy ass crossdresser. She wants YOU to be her Dominant man.

Whatever you do just realize that the fantasy is far different from the reality. I had this fantasy for years and slowly and incrementally pushed my wife into it. It eventually got to the point where we would almost go through with something and then stop. We did this several times. She was never really crazy about it. Finally, one night we went through with meeting someone. The guy was exactly what most people would imagine in their fantasy including being horse hung (white though) except it was all to real. My wife had to get takes to go through with it and we went back to his place. Guys - believe me that reading these stories and looking at the pictures is a lot different than seeing your wife being taken upstairs by the hand by some other dude. She looked back and mouthed and gestured to me, "is this what you really want?" but he just pulled her upstairs. After about 15 minutes I went up and was knocking on the bedroom door but he wouldn't let me in and I could hear them fucking over the loud music he had on. After about 1 hour he opened the door. My wife was sitting on the bed nude looking at me. She got up to go to the bathroom and as she stood I saw a big glob of semen drip out of her. In spite of what we talked about he didn't use anything and my wife let him. Fortunately, he was clean. The guy proceeded to tell me how hot she was and everything he did to her. She came back to get dressed and as she walked by he gave her a hard smack on the ass and told her to come back any time. He kept her panties. She got dressed, we left, and drove home in silence. We never talked about it. She just said that that was it, she did it and I could jerk off forever thinking about it, and she never wanted to hear another word from me about it again. Be careful.

^ Wow, cantresist, I know you didn't intend for it to be taken this way but that was a hot story.
My wife's ass: http://www.cuckoldplace.com/13_28160_0.html
Want to to stick your cock in it?

I agree with most all of what has been said here. The whole confusion between cuckolding and interracial sex, the fact that nobody can be in a 24/7 D/S situation. But it can go farther than you think, and it is very dangerous fun.
Sometimes not so fun. I would characterize my marriage as a female dominant marriage, to the extreme, but even that is mild compared to stories you read. Most of the time, people are NORMAL, whatever that is.

My biggest gripe is cuckold wannabes calling their wives "sluts" when 99% of the time, they pushed their wives into the activity. It is a consensual lifestyle that only very, very secure people with a strong relationship should contemplate. You netter have a strong foundation and a lot of trust. If your marriage was bad before, it will get worse after. My wife is my best friend and none of this could have happened if that wasn't true to begin with. She has a boyfriend but she is anything BUT a slut. If I ever called her that, she would probably divorce me!

I believe that there is that one percent who get married with the thought of, or the intent of cuckolding their husband. But I believe that 99 percent of woman marry their husbands thinking he is the best thing in the world with zero intent of ever cheating on him, let alone making him into a cuckold. I think this is normally a fantasy for men and not normally for woman.

Let's talk about these so called "Dom Bull Masters" that are out there. Sheeesh, Really?!?!?!?! First, the online one's. You go to cuckoldfart and ask for a Dominant Bull to give you some offense and maybe take your wife's pics and post them. Majority of the time, they will maybe call you a name or two, ask to see your wife, ask you to give you more, maybe ask for a little more and then POOF...Vanish! "Oh thank you Mr. DOMBULLHUMILIATOROFCUCKSANDSUBWIFESWHOCONTROLSANDDEGRADES"

A lot of these "Bulls" are nothing but pic collectors. And let's think about that. So they have 50,75,100 sets of wives pics on their computer. So then what? They just want to build a database so that when they die, their family will say, "Wow, look at all these pictures of woman he had." What's the point? Here is another point. Of course, most of us know that this is fantasy and that most use the internet for fantasy purposes. When we say fantasy, it usually is the opposite of what are reality is. If it was our reality, we wouldn't go to the internet looking for it. Now again, this isn't EVERYBODY. There are some who are living this lifestyle and come here or go to the chat room and I know that. But let's say the majority here are living in a dream world because in reality, their wives will not cuck them, dominate them or submit to their kinky desires. So basically, if you think in those terms, it is a high probability that most sub cucks are in some sort of position of power and have a lot of control in their lives or to their subordinates. Whether that is at work, in their social circle, at home or just everyday around the community. Of course, the opposite of that is Mr. MASTERDOMBULL online. It is quite possible that in his reality, he is a 120 pound pencil neck, zit faces 23 year old who works at a menial job and has little respect from people around him. So what does he do? He goes on the internet to gain power and control. Now this is just me ranting and maybe I am wrong. I am sure in some cases, I AM wrong. But I really have a feeling that I am not.

Have you ever been chatting to a supposedly submissive cuck and then have them turn the tables on you and start Dominating you? I have found so many sub cucks online are really switches which leads me to beleive that my hypososis about what I said above is true. I do know for a fact that most of the times, it was this so called "SubSissyCuckSlave" who really knew how to Dominate me and push my buttons to make my cock hard and leaking. They are in tune with the mindset and also in real life a Dominant type permister.

In real life, I got into the BDSM scene (I mean the REAL scene going to classes, seminars, parties, clubs, etc.) as a submissive to a Domme. I found out later that she liked to bottom and liked to be flogged, spanked and have her hair pulled while fucking her hard (Yes, she used me as her sub for fucking her a lot). She taught me how to flog a permister so as to not damage them but to give them varied degrees of stimulation. I was hooked and within a couple of months was playing with sub woman with me in the Dominant role. But because I was a submissive myself, I knew how a sub thought and what they really wanted which gave me an advantage over other Dominants who had never played in a submissive role before. There was one very well respected Dominant Master who served as a 24/7 slave to a Mistress before he became a BDSM Master. It taught him a lot about the lifestyle and mindset of submissives and slaves.

Now real time is not too much different. My ex wife and I met a "Dominant Bull" online who "Loved To Control And Humiliate Sub Cucks" so we met him. He turned out to be a typical pencil pusher, glasses, hair parted on the side, button up shirt with sport jacket, loafers, slender built, etc. He talked dirty just a little to me but the reality is that all he really wanted to do was get some easy pussy. He ended up knowing how to please a woman with his fingers and my wife fell for him. It wasn't like he was hung like a horse. He was 5.5 inches but the excitement of having a stranger fucking her was thrilling for her seeing that she had only been with me for 9 years. The bottom line is that most who want to meet in permister just want some easy pussy because they can't go out and meet woman on their own in a bar, restaurant, club, mall, etc. Not EVERY MAN who likes cuck couple is like this but if you really think about it, this is one of the easiest ways to get laid?

Hell, maybe you should post an ad in your local craigslist and see what happens.

Well, how can anyone disagree with that? Clearly more more people will prefer to fantasize about almost any kink then really do it - let alone live it as lifestyle. But there are always a few who enjoy going further. As you say "doesn't apply to everyone." But if that is the case, why are you griping? You are upset because other people have a fantasy of living a different life than they do? Or you are upset that some people really do it and share on here? Or you are upset that you can't tell wish from report on the site?

Really, you are starting to get confusing. What exactly is the gripe?


I think a lot of people find it really amusing, even hysterical, to hear that kind of profession of devotion from a sub to their dom. (I find amusement to be a positiive experience. ) And yes, it is usually a common place phrase for BDSM folk akin to vanilla folk statements like "I will love you forever," "I'll never forget you," "have a nice day," etc. Which, kind of makes it unreasonable to get upset by it, don't you think?

Also, as you said before, "doesn't apply to everyone out there." Many of us know of people who were ordered by their doms to wear humiliating things to work and did so. (I actually know of a guy in which it was a tutu and heels, in fact. With a leotard, of course.) And I suspect it wouldn't take very much time with Google to find a clip of some guy eating dogsh-it. (I seem to remember that Divine did just that in John Water's Polyester.) Yeah, most people who make such promises to their Doms wouldn't want to live up to the commitment in the extreme - but some would want to and others might do so anyway.

So again, is what upsets you the fact that some people would or that many wouldn't if called on it?


You can't be serious about the first question, but the second one is totally legitimate. If you are married and worried about exposure, then posting your wife's face is just as risky as posting your own. And if your reluctance to post is about a desire to spare yourself public exposure and the possible shame and offense that could follow, what kind of subby, what kind of husband, what kind of man would put his wife up front for that and hide behind her? Seriously, that is worse than the politicians who make their wives stand next to them at press conferences about how they cheated.


Huh. Well, given that those into the fetish are likely a slender minority of the population, and that men with the fetish probably outnumber women by an overwhelming margin it seems like the number of women who would want that are very few in the population. So few that advertising directly seems like the only reasonable way for a man seeking such a woman to reach her. So what is the gripe? That they are seeking something hard to find? Following their dream? Playing for a long-shot? Show me someone outside a Buddist monastery who isn't in some way.


OK. So your bottom line is that it gripes you that people have Cuckold Fetishes at all? What?
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

I agree with this 100%. Well, 95% anyway. I don't think it is fair to call your wife a "slut" for indulging in a fetish lifestyle that you agreed to and (as you say) almost certainly initiated and orchestrated. But I would leave some room for the possibility that the wife is OK with his using this term. You are reacting to it as the perjorative it is in the wider world, but that may be why they get off on it. There are lots of sub males who like to be called "sissy" or "fag," and lots of dom females who like to be called "bitch." It isn't hard for me to believe that some women get off on adopting the perjorative. Come to think of it, I've met women who seem to enjoy describing themselves as "sluts," who (as far as I know) weren't even in the cuckolding scene. Haven't you? If they are "very, very secure," it won't bother them as it does you. (Although I have real questions about whether "very, very secure" people can ever be into this fetish. But that is another thing.)
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Uh...I dunno... Maybe I was just venting. Yeah, I know that my thread started out good and to be honest, in the middle of posting some of this, I too was getting a little confused and started wondering about it but figured I would post it anyway to see if anyone else would agree with any of it. My apologies if it is going off into left field or if I am going off on a tangent. Or if it is not starting to make sense.

MBBD, you are very wise and it is evident that you have a lot of experience in the lifestyle and I respect your comments and opinions.

Uh...I dunno... Maybe I was just venting. Yeah, I know that my thread started out good and to be honest, in the middle of posting some of this, I too was getting a little confused and started wondering about it but figured I would post it anyway to see if anyone else would agree with any of it. My apologies if it is going off into left field or if I am going off on a tangent. Or if it is not starting to make sense.

MBBD, you are very wise and it is evident that you have a lot of experience in the lifestyle and I respect your comments and opinions.

Stop, you're embarrassing me!

I don't mean to stop you from venting. I love a good rant. I think I just totally missed where you were coming from. Please feel free to go on. I never meant to inhibit, just to clarify.

I just thought it was a great topic and wanted to keep the conversation going, so don't drop off on my account, please!

Among my major gripes - about this board, not cuckolding in general - are those who try to shut down conversation or are rude by volunteering unsolicited negative opinions. I wouldn't want to think I'd been guilty of it in this case (Although I am sure I've been guilty of it at sometime. We all make mistakes.)

To make amends, if they are needed, here is a contribution to gripes about Cuckolding Fantasy v. Reality:

-> One gripe about the reality of cuckolding are guys dating my wife who change their whole attitude towards her when they find out I'm a willing cuck. Some guys have no problem fucking her, knowing full well she is married, when they assume she is cheating. But when they find out I'm OK with it, they back away from her like she's a freak - which hurts her.

I don't mind when they think I am a freak or a loser and show me disdain (presumably to boost their shaky confidence that they have nothing in common with a perv like me.) I don't even mind the guys who try to convince my wife to divorce or dump me for her own good (there were a couple.) And I really can't even fault the guys who say "wow, this is too kinky for me, I'm out." But the guys who suddenly take the position that there is something wrong with my wife, that she is less than they had previously thought, because instead of going behind my back she is going in front of my face - that just really annoys me.

I mean, here we are, honest fetishists living out our kink, getting over our inhibitions and fears. And here he is trying to undermine her and make her feel self-conscious about it all - when he has no problem with any of it as long as it was all based on lying and cheating. And that is a species of jerk/bull that doesn't exist in fantasy but is surprisingly abundant in the messy, insecure, disfunctional real world.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

jinxypie

Hubby is your #1 man and it is penned in stone.

If a man that behaves like those that WannabeDom has described in his thread approached you with romantic interests in mind; I'm certain that you would just turn and walk away from him.
..............PSEUDO PERSON...YMMV!

MrsBlackBlowupDoll

You are one of my favorite posters on this site!

Boy Oh Boy!!! Are you ever able to take the expression "tilting at windmills" to the extreme with some of your prosaic reamisterings for cuckolding advocacy once in awhile!
..............PSEUDO PERSON...YMMV!

I have to agree with fquimby. Cantresist's story is indeed very arousing. That's the 'repentful cuckold' story, which means one should be careful about what one wishes for ... but it's too late now! Also the fact that houseslvsissy admits his wife indeed has a boyfriend, but he would never call her a slut, because they're best friends and have a lot of trust - wow! That makes the perfect spice for cuckoldry, doesn't it?

Very informative. It's good to hear about other male's opinions and perspective on the situation between you and your wife. I'm not sure I could handle that kind of judgement without my alpha male emerging and putting their throats quite literally under my feet. The paradox is that the cuck in my opinion 99% of the time is not a submissive, but everybody involved in the scenario is indeed quite submissive to him. He holds all the cards. The game is over when he says it's over.

The fact that you brought up that they are okay with it as long as they are practicing deception and participating in an affair but not with the act out in the open is pretty amusing. Humans are disgusting. I've actually brought up to my wife before that we could do this cuck thing without any repercussions if we just publicly stated that we are separating and going through a potential divorce but secretly have a great marriage. Then it would be acceptable for it all to be out in the open. He could fuck her and know that I know about it. Professionally, it would be acceptable to her work colleagues. Many people that are divorcing still share the same house for financial situations if it's a civil divorce. Just a thought.

I've had this thought myself (and a few fantasies built around!) I suppose that the distinction is that it isn't considered "illegitimate" under that scenario - and therefore not "kinky." The world is a wacky place.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

MBBD: No, you didn't stop me from ranting. I have just been so busy lately. I thought of another good one last week while at work but of course forgot it now. It will come back to me and I will post it.

Great responses from everyone. Thanks for keeping this alive.

I always have to wonder when cucks start talking about getting their wives pregnant by another man. Yes, the reality of it is that the husband is going to supposedly raise the young as if he or she was his own but how is he going to feel about it for the next 18 or more years? Oh, and how is the Bull going to feel, knowing he has a young out there who he can't tell that he is really the man? In regular society, we frown upon "Deadbeat Dads" who get a girl pregnant and then up and move away or don't have any contact with the lady of his young. What an irresponsible bastard most people say. So how is this any different? Because it is all consentual?

And more importantly, what about the young? Let's say he or she is growing up a little and he notices that he is bi-racial. Is he or she going to wonder? What happens when his or her friends ask about it? What does the young say or how does he or she respond? When he asks his or her parents about it, what do they say? "Well, we had this cuckold relationship and mom wanted to be impregnated by a black man." So now, the young has to endure years of wondering about it. Does anyone ask how this is going to affect the young's emotional and psychological well being?

I have no problem with the adults doing what they want but when you get pregnant, you are including another life which is the life of the young. I mean, yes, the fantasy of it may be exciting. But the reality is that you are bringing another human being into the world and you will have to be responsible for it's well being for the next 18 years at least. But maybe it's just me and this is okay and everything will turn out okay. Yeah, sort of taking the turn on out of it huh? Sorry....

Yes it does! One of the thongs I bought my wife says: "You say 'SLUT' like it was a bad thing.." on it. Sometimes I call her my little slut, but I love her for it.


You are under no such obligation, but please, feel free. I suspect it is a fantasy for many more people than it is a reality, but I do not doubt that some have gone thru with it. Nor do I doubt that a considerably larger number of men are raising other mens youngren unawares!


That would be stupid, and none of the young's business. When a young is old enough to understand my previous sentence, perhaps he can be told that his Biological and Familiar Fathers are not the same permister. This is probably necessary for potential medical reamisters, but IR Cuckoldry needn't be any part of the discussion.

In reading thru this thread, WannaBeDom, it seems to me that you are trying to talk yourself out of feeling as disgusted with Cuckolds and their Wives as you apparently are. There seems to be no end of aspects of the LifeStyle that offend you, each one more than the last.

Why do you care? Are you trying to come to terms with your own desire to be a Cuckold? Or perhaps your desire to be a Bull?


The fact is there are some of us men that are aroused by the idea of our Wives fucking other men. Some of us (me, for example) are lucky enough to be married to Wives that feel the same way!
Old Enough to know better...but I don't!

Beyond that, I think you need to realize that the variety of feelings and behaviors that different Cuckold Couples and people in Cuckold relationships is much, *much* more wide-ranging and varied than you seem to think. I don't feel like going back and counting up each of the various things you identified above as bothering you about Cuckolds and Cuckoldry, but I assure you they are all things that some Cuckolds and Cuckold COuples exemplify and do, while others do not.

Try to be less judgemental. People have to find what works for them. You'll never be able to even imagine all the various different kinds of intimate relationships that work for different people; it's surely a fools errand to try and pass judgement on all of them.

I know that I'm only in my own skin, and sometimes I do not even know what *I* really want and what works for me. Beyond the rough ground of the Golden Rule and the general principle of not hurting people, how can I presume to pass judgement on what other people arrive at?
Old Enough to know better...but I don't!