Would anyone be able to give me advice with my girlfriend.

Me and my girlfriend have been going out for 2 years. We are both 21 and in love and attend different universities. I am the first permister she has ever experienced sexually, but she has never had anyone else but me and has only kissed 3 guys before me. I told her since she has never experienced anyone else that I would not want her to miss out on being in college and experiencing another guy. I told her about my fantasy of her being with other guys about a year ago and we have roleplayed once and although she wasnt weirded out by it, she said she thinks she couldnt ever do that. We talk about it every once and a while, sometimes during sex. I tell her that I wouldnt mind her grinding with other guys at parties and clubs, and she did it once but she says it feels weird. I have read 2 manuals on how to get her to cuck me and have used some of the techniques, but it seems like she may be to conservative to do this.

My question are
Does anyone have any experience with cucking this young?
Does anyone have the same problem I have?
and does anyone have any advice or techniques that could help her think about it more or help her get into it more

you need the services of an experienced bull. you need to inrtoduce him into your scene and let him work on her, even in front of you so that she see's that you are cool with it, and you should encourage the bull, tell her how good she looks and buy her clothes to wear when you are with the bull, real slutty clothes that say "fuck me", she'll soon warm to it and fall under the bulls charms etc...let me know if you need more.

popeye

I would add to what popeye1 said that the "guy" should be very flirty and romantic with her, flowers, perfumes, etc...as this will "ease her into it" rather than going directly into the "sexy clothes" bit, and as popeye1 said, make sure you are around for at least SOME of it so that she sees that you are ok with it. my final word would be that once she does show any signs of interest , or does chat to the guy etc..it is incredibly important that you PRAISE her !!! possibly buy her a gift yourself too, to show her how much you appreciate her effort, and what a "good girl" she is etc.
Once she sees everything is ok, and gets "into the idea" Im sure she will enjoy the lifestyle just as much as you.
But that brings me to another point....."Be careful what you wish for because one day your wishes may come true"
make sure that you are 100% ok with this and that you CAN handle it ! it cannot be "undone".

Mike ( 10 years as a sissy cuckold )

cuckoldedsissywimp
Both are great ideas. But how would I get my conservative girlfriend to even consider hooking up with another guy. Like what would help her realize it could be fun and exciting?

Good luck, but I have to say you are likely going to have to wait a few years for her to open up to these kinds of ideas. In my experience, this is a middle aged permister's game.
darslangly

Oh, yah, when I was 19 I went on Spring Break to Boca with this guy I was going with. So we'd go in these hotel cabana things on the beach where the businessmen go to watch the Young Stuff. I was too young to take but my bf wasn't. So I was wearing my white cameltoe shorty-shorts and my bikini top and almost-fuck-me sandals.

I'm not a BBW or a sexpot, just an ordinary girl, 5'1, blond, kind of leggy, 30A boobs, but some of those older guys would really "look," you know how it is, and it kind of turned me on. My bf was like, "See that guy over there? I bet he'd really like to get it with you!" and I'd be like, "God, no! He's as old as my dad!" and we'd laugh about it and then go back to the condo and fuck like lemmings.

Anyway, he kept doing it, and then we came back and I was sitting in math class and the light came on, I was like, "God, Jamie! Are you stupid, or what?" because I think he was SERIOUS, and I would have DONE it, too! It just didn't occur to me that he was serious. If he had been clearer, that he really wanted it and was ok with it, I would have done it, no problem. I mean, what you do on Spring Break Doesn't Count, right?

So the lesmister here is, Take Control. This is hard if you want to do the gay-bi-femdom TV cuckolds brownie (not that there is anmything wrong with it) and have HER "take control." But I was sort of the subbie type, looking for thrills, and he was sort of the dom type, and I think it would have worked out if he had been a little clearer.

I'm older now, and a little more experienced, but I still think I'd do it if the right situation came up. Not on Spring Break with random strangers like when I was 19, but with a guy I trust to keep me safe. There are so many weirdos out there!

You probably can't "make" your girlfriend fuck other guys. It's hard to flip a really "good" girl. But if she's like me, but just a little shy or reserved, maybe you can bring out what's already there. Just be sure she knows it won't make her less in your eyes. Us girls are really sensitive to stuff like that.

Love,

Jamie

PS I googled him and he's living in Akron with his wife and a fresh baby, so I guess it's Too Late...

PPS I'm here because I think the cuckold thing is way hott, even if I never really get to do it.

PPPS: I'm NOT into the femdom "wife takes control" stuff. I'm not "against" it, it just isn't me at all.

Clack201,

I am in the same boat trying to get my wife interested after 25 years (we are 45). I have started a full court press these past couple of months. Although I am making some fantastic progress with roleplaying I can see that it is also straining our "real" life and relationship. Good luck and please everyone keep up the great advice

Yeah, like, my mom had a kid with her boss while still married to dad. Dad wasn't really into the cuckold thing, though, and he left and went back to Scotland. So mom was pretty once, I saw the photos, but by the time she had the affair she was middle aged and a BBW, and pretty? Mmmm, not so much. So you can imagine I have a slightly different view of the cuckold thing. I still think it's hot, but not when kids are involved.

Anyway, mom's boss dumped us and sent my half-brother to live with his grandlady.

Turning the girl you married into a slut wife can be kind of hard. She gets up there with you, your parents, and all your friends and her parents and all her friends, the preacher and God, and promises to leave and cleave etc. and then after the hornymoon you expect her to fuck other guys. Girls aren't wired like that. Guys can dip it, shake it off, hit the gas, and they're gone, but it doesn't work like that for us. Unless you find a girl like me who is already turned...

Love,

Jamie

PS I'm not "looking" right now. Try again later.

PPS There are 6 billion people in the world, there are a few more out there like me

Well said Mcevin.......sad but true....very sad

I found that sometimes the stuff I want is right there the whole time and I'm just too dumb to see it. So I was looking at the pic of your gf and I can tell you there is NO WAY she is off at another college and guys aren't hitting on her.

My first year of grad school I was a Resident Assistant for a bunch of freshman girls. Omg! They ALL had boyfriends back home, they called them BFBHs, like, "Oh my god, Britney, my BFBH can NEVER FIND OUT about last night." Girls expect guys to be insanely jealous. All the guys I ever went with except one would get pissed if the even saw me talking to another guy.

"He was my LAB partner, Mark. God!"

"Well, you were sitting pretty close to him in the library."

"We were trying to find this mistake in our experiment."

Of course, I didn't tell Mark about our Other Experiments, like playing Hunt the Wumpus in the back seat of his car out in the stadium parking lot after lab...

So I was writing this guy, he was kind of like you, his gf was at another school, and I'd make up stuff about what his gf was doing. It was fun, making stuff up, and it turned me on, too. FInally he went to visit her and didn't tell her he was coming, and sort of spied on her. He told me it was just like the stuff I made up! I mean, not exactly, but she had been fooling around with other guys just the way he wanted, only she wouldn't tell him or admit it.

She wasn't fucking them. Guys think if it isn't doggie-stye, jackhammer-pumping, ball-slapping fucking like on grouporn or youcuck, then it isn't "sex." Girls know better. I mean, oral sex isn't "sex," no matter how many times he cums in her mouth, so she can be like, "I'm still a virgin, I've been totally faithful..."

My grandman used to say, "If you can't have the whole hog, try for a little bacon." So maybe you need to scale back a little. Roleplay is good. Girls are so insecure sometimes. I know I am. It sometimes takes us a long time and a lot of role play and talk before the light comes on: "He really DOES like the idea of me with other guys... It feels weird, but it seems to really turn him on... I wonder if I could really do it... I wonder if another guy would find me attractive...that way..."

Take it slow, and try for a little bacon.

Love,

Jamie

Yeah, it helps if you are there. The first time I had sex with another guy my boyfriend was there the whole time. We'd go to the lake with a couple of his friends. One time I sort of kissed one of his friends in front of him, kind of by accident, and he was like, "That's really hot, Jamie!" and then it led to sort of a cluster-fuck with me and him and his two friends.

I don't think I would have done it if he hadn't been right there telling me it was all right, or if HAD done it, I probably wouldn't tell him about it, even if he "said" it turned him on. I mean, once I sort of hinted to this guy I was going with that I had been with someone else because I thought it would turm him on, and he DUMPED me!

Love,

Jamie

I had cuckolding experiences when I was not much older than you. I wasn't good at it, but I think I might be able to help with the benefit of experience.

First, a disclaimer: You know this woman and none of us on this board do, so you're in the best position to judge how on-target anything we say is or how feasible suggestions are. If you are serious about this working out you should hear all our advice, but keep your own counsel.

OK, so, when a woman (especially a younger less experienced woman) is resistant, it could be any combination of:

1. She is inhibited. She thinks what is being proposed is "wrong," "naughty," "slutty," etc. AND (unlike you) she is not turned on by being transgressive and/or not turned on enough to make it worthwhile. Younger people in particular are less confident in who they, more protective or their potential, and more invested in the pursuit of perfection and success. She may not want to do this because it makes HER feel bad about HERSELF.

2. She is scared of damaging her reputation. All good and well for a offense fetishist like yourself to have a hot girlfriend dissing you, but what does she look like to other people then? She probably does not want to be known as a "slut," a "bitch," a "whore," a "maneater," etc. She doesn't want guys who she might be interested in to view her that way (even if she isn't planning to do anything with them - remember she is protecting her potential for relationships with them if what she has with you falls through.) She also doesn't want other women to see her that way. Peer esteem is an important part of well-being and a key goal of people. This is true to an even greater magnitude in your age range.

3. She is scared of fucking up her relationship with you. Sure, you say it would be OK, but would it really be? She knows better. How many guys have been into this (or other things) only to find that reality doesn't match-up to the fantasy? She thinks if she does it, you might leave her (I actually made that mistake once). Beyond that, even if you don't, she might change, or the chemistry, or whatever. Again, all well and good for a risk fetishist like you, but remember that she isn't in a relationship with you for the risk. She is in it for the security. Her insecurity is already increased by your separation. Why should she get reckless?

4. She suspects you agenda, conscious or ***. Much of her self-esteem is also tied-up in the fact that she captured and can hold onto you. She was hot enough to land a man and tie him down. So why is he now pushing her towards others? Is he trying to get away? To give himself an out by making it her fault? To give himself an excuse to chase other women at his college? Is he tired of her? Is he gay? To you, this is all about you fantasies, but to her it is about her and about you as a couple. Her suspicions are greater because of the physical separation of going to different schools.

5. She is just NOT into it. It is a favorite cuckold myth that all women would be promiscuous if they had the chance or were "enlightened" by a another man. Not true. Many, yes, but not all. Even if she is a candidate for such a porn-film epiphany, the right combination or man and time and place that would tempt her is not so easily come across. Certainly there is little you can do to arrange it and pressure to go looking will be both unwelcome and counterproductive.

So, what to do?

In the first place, you'll need to decide how OK you really will be if this becomes reality. Secondly, how much are you willing to risk you relationship to make your fantasies come true. I don't mean to suggest that the risk need be extreme, but any time you are trying to convince a partner to do something they are no inclined to do you are exerting pressure and there is a risk of blow-back. If you decide you really will be OK with it and that you can tolerate some risk to make it happen, I suggest this:

-> Have more frank conversation with her about the fantasy and the relationship generally. Real conversation, not foreplay (so, when you are both not horny.) Be clear that she is free to do as she wants while she is away at her college.

-> Also talk about other fantasies. Find out what her dark fantasies are and be supportive and understanding. Learn what really turns each other on. Show that you are open to role-playing AND living out HER fantasies. See if you can't web these fantasies together - not in the same conversation, but later as you dirty talk each other. (This worked well for my wife and me. She was into watching me submit to another guy and we incorporated that into the lifestyle. Also, she wanted to explore her own submissive side and knew she would never be able to with me. But with me there, she felt safe exploring with other guys.)

-> Do everything you can to make her feel safe and secure in the relationship. The intimacy of sharing the fantasies can help (if you are supporting and loving about them.) So can the frank conversation about how you would totally be OK for real if she had sex with other guys.

-> It would help a lot if you could honestly convince her that you would not do they same. Although you need to be clear that this is your choice. She doesn't want to feel she is taking unfair advantage or that she is a bad permister because while you are good and faithful and true, she isn't. You need to be clear that her relaxing with another guy is something that is as good for you as for her, while leaving it to her to do it if she feels like and not "for you." It is a very delicate ropewalk and that is why so much very honest communication is needed.

-> Assure her that it will be your secret. That you won't tell folks back home or other places. She can single on her campus and a couple with you back home. (This was easier to pull off before everyone decided to share everything about themselves on facebook.)

-> Try to slowly turn all your own sexual encounters into cuckold role play to the extent possible. At least always bring an element in if she doesn't throw a fit about it. Also, link it up to some of her fantasies which you should also always bring in. If she has presentation fantasies, make up a story where she has a master who she is sexually exclusive with while the two of you stay together as a loving, but chaste, couple. If she finds gay hot, conjure an image where her new boyfriend is serviced by you. If she is turned on by exhibitionism, image a scenario where she and another guy do it in front of you, or in front of a crowd that includes you. Whatever. You might also want to buy a dildo o further the idea of another guy with you both. One warning here is the word SLOWLY. If she pushes back or gets annoyed, make sure you back up and have some times that reassure her with their loving vanilla-ness. But insist that sometimes she play with you.

-> You might consider writing her romantic and/or pornographic stories in which she cuckolds you. (I think you'll get more romantic bang if you hand write them, or at least print them out, and post them than using email. People love to get letters, they are more permisteral and romantic then email.) This is a great way to make her feel the security of your commitment to her and your desire for her while infiltrating the idea more deeply into her psyche and her image of the relationship. It also helps her feel close to you and ward off feelings she might have of loneliness, while at the same time making her horny and putting the idea of doing something about it in her head.

-> Give her total permission and then DON'T push. She is at college. Encourage her subtly to go to parties and social activities when they come up in conversation. Don't be so ever present and clingy so she is running back to phone you each night, etc. Then just let nature take its course.

-> Finally, if you are really willing to take the risks, you can make a point when you are together or being sexual of demonstrating much greater excitement about cuckold fantasies than vanilla. She wants to please you and with the separation, she'll want to maximize your limited physical encounters and torque-up the more challenging phone talk encounters. So if she picks-up that this is what really does it for you, she will herself help make it dominate your shared sexual imagination - which makes a real life adventure more possible.

Good luck and let us know how things turn out!
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

I think mrsblackblowupdoll has a shed load of good, intelligent advice in the above post.
As stated, only YOU know the lady in question so be careful not to harm your relationship by trying to push a total " no go".
I do however also agree with one of the posters above that cuckolding is often an " older permisters game". This is probably because the relationship is often more secure and stable, and that you have had many years of really getting to know each other. Add to this the desire to " spice up the sex life" after many years of repetative bedroom games.
I wish you luck.

MrsBlackBlowupDoll
Wow. A really good post. I think you hit the nail on the head, especially the aspect about certian women will just not be permiscuious... that may be the case for her and it is often said on cuckold sites or by cucks or bulls.... "ohhh no she will do it in the right circumstance " and maybe that is true to an extent.... like if there were 3 million dollars involved and it would make life easier for her, or it was with leonardo dicaprio and it was once and a lifetime chance, but thats just not realistic. So for some females permiscuity is out of the question.

Also Your post pretty much touched on everything and even when I would think "Well Ive tried that, or Ive done that" You would finish with something I havent done. I appreciate you taking time to write all of that because it really puts everything into perspective.

I have one question. What if she says that she does not have any fantasies? She has stated when I have asked her that she does not have any. I mean It is possible I guess. I think maybe Im just more comfortable with my fantasies, or maybe like she might not actually think of having sex with a celebrity, but thinks hes hot. How do I work on her finding out what her fantasy is if she simply states that she does not have one? I dont think she is lying or like holding back... I just dont know if she thinks about it really?

Also I have been told that vacation is the best place for someone who is conservative to try somthing out with another guy. I would really like to take her on vacation next summer because we will be graduating soon and It would be a great time to take a break. Although there is no sign from her that she ever would, I do think that what other people think is a big aspect of why she wouldnt.

Also thank you to everyone else for their posts they are all helpful. Another thing I would like to comment on that may be helpful in my situation is that she moved into a new apartment this semester with a different group of friends. They are all party girls and are really fun... and alot different than her roomates the past 2 years. They take alot more and although they have boyfriends they grind with other guys at parties and clubs and stuff... but they dont cheat.. atleast from what I know haha. But I think this would be good for my girlfriend to 1. Get to go out more and live the college life for our last year. And 2. Hopefully she sees that grinding with other guys isnt a bad thing.... and she has her boyfriends permission so its really not a bad thing and could be fun. So hopefully her new roomates help with that.

I was in a similar situation to yours about a decade ago. I was 23-25, she was 20-22, petite, hot, and sexually aggressive and playful (although we waited months before intercourse). I couldn't help myself, and I tried to explore my fantasies with her pretty early on. Looking back on it, I probably jumped the gun. I was able to successfully convince her that I was totally into it, and she had a very liberally minded college roommate to bounce the idea off of, which helped.

The first guy was a classmate that she had a warm relationship with, and I encouraged her to see where it went. She ended up hanging out with him in his room, but it didn't go any further. The tease for me was intense, and she was pretty committed to enjoying herself at that point. The next guy she met at a bar. I was there, but we pretended to be friends. The guy basically walked up to her and took her away from me. She ended up hanging on him the whole night, and they kissed before we left. She kissed him while I was in the bathroom, and I begged her to do it again, which she did.

The next time was also at a bar/club. We went very much intending for her to meet a guy. On the drive there she kind of moaned/shivered, and when I asked her what was up she said, "This is just so erotic." She spent part of her time in some ladies night male strip alcove, and when she came out she was primed. We pretended to be apart and she met a guy instantly. They danced and hung out and she finally kissed him before we left, although I did not get to see it. Again, she did it while I was in the bathroom. Obviously she was too shy to do these things in front of me, and it was also a tease on her part. This was the first major guy. He took her out, picking her up at my apartment (she pretended she was house sitting). I waited for her to get home over several tortuous hours. Little did I know I had missed his car when they returned. They parked behind the building and engaged in a heavy makeout session (she straddling him) for almost an hour. When she walked in she had a cuckolds brownie-eating grin on her face, a little tipsy and obviously completely delighted with the experience of a new guy. The first sign of trouble, however, was that she was reluctant to be physically intimate with me afterward. It was as if she had instantly chemically bonded with him.

She went out with this guy again... I believe I sent her with a digital audio recorder in her purse. She took him back to her dorm this time and there was mutual oral. I talked to her on the phone after, and she took the train up to see me the next day. When I listened to the recording, I heard that she got a call from her sister. From the conversation, it was obvious that her sister knew she was out on a date with a guy who wasn't me. Kind of surprising, be in a way agonizingly hot. Again, when I saw her she wasn't inclined to be intimate with me in any way.

The next guy was also a classmate. Their relationship started slow, kind of just friendly, but she took a liking to him. This is the one that sort of sank our relationship in a way. She increasingly saw him without involving me in any way. As far as she told it, she never actually had intercourse with him, but I'm not so sure about that at all. He had a very big dick (the previous guy was average, like me). I think she must have developed an emotional attachment to him, like a parallel love relationship. We communicated a lot about how it was affecting our relationship, I think she said she started loving me more platonically anything else. During this time, our sex life mostly amounted to me eating her ass from behind and fingering her. It was pretty much the only thing she wanted. I asked her if she specifically wanted to deny me sex, but she said she didn't. That was the sense I got though, almost as though it was out of her control. I asked her to stop seeing him after the incident. She agreed, and then did it again behind my back. We had planned a vacation, and decided to go anyway. I wanted to forgive her (ya know, mostly my fault anyway) and try to move forward in whatever way was best for our relationship. It sort of worked for a while, but at that point I think the relationship was doomed.

Overall, even though I thought we were communicating, for some reamister she did not want her extra-relationship affairs to be a mutual exploration of our sex life. I feel like she withheld a great deal about what was actually going on, even though I made it clear I would have been okay with anything so long as she clued me in and did it with some kind of intent. I let the relationship whither on the vine, and then she broke it off. She tried to get back together again about a week later, but I said no.

That was that. We occasionally talked afterward, and apparently she met a military guy who fucked her brains out for several years. He ended up cheating on her, and she again tried to wave herself in front of me to see if I wanted her, but I told her the ball was in her court if she wanted to get together. Haven't talked to her since.

If there's a point to this, it's that I'd recommend holding off. No offense, but you don't know what the fuck you're doing in relationships when you're young. You'd have a much better chance exploring this lifestyle if you explore your relationship first. Don't encourage her to be with her other guys when you're still new to her. When she has a deep love for you but craves sexual excitement elsewhere, that's when to go for it. If you can't hold off, then just let her know she has a lot of leeway, but don't push it on her.

Also, your girlfriend is super hot. I don't blame you for wanting her to get plowed.

Eastside
Thanks thats a really helpful story.... Scary, but very true. I would not want to lose her and Althoughh I do not plan on rushing into this cuckolding thing... if It could happen tommorow I would probably let it, but thats not going to happen so in the end, realistically there is no rush. I have to say though eastside... If you happend to meet someone else that your happier with (or maybe you already have) It was definitly a good deciscion and worth the risk. I feel like the same for anyone including me. But theres also a chance you lose the best permister in your life and right now its her so I should take it slow. I do still want to slowly move towards it though cause it is something I truly want.

Whoa! Everyone has sexual fantasies, Clack201. It is part of the human condition. I can think of only two likely reamisters for your girlfriend to deny this elemental truth and neither of them are good:

1. She is so uptight, inhibited, and scared that she can't bring herself to admit, even to herself, that she has such "filthy" thoughts.

2. She doesn't trust you enough to tell you them yet.

Of these, I think the first possibility unlikely. If she was really that messed-up about sex she would never have role-played with you. The second seems more probable. Let me say that you shouldn't take this as a slight by her. This isn't about you. It is likely that her fantasies make her feel bad about herself. SHe finds them shameful and thinks they make her a bad permister and thinks that if your know them you will think less of her no matter what you say.

Frankly, you have here two options. First, you can be as supportive and safe as possible, encouraging her to share her fantasies and then wait, possibly years, until she does. (When a young lady is like this, the physical separation will make much harder. To feel safe enough to "confess" she will probably need prolonged time in you immediate company.) While you are doing that, you can repeatedly make it clear to her that she has a free pass to go cock hunting at school. Over time, with distance and hormones playing their roles, she may take you up on it. However, with a girl as "conservative" (shall we say "traditional?") as you describe there is a very good chance that your experience will be like Eastside's: She will take the license, but then dump you to make herself feel right about it. (Sharing with you instead may make her feel demeaned or just plain mean.) Then the best you can hope for is to negotiate a hiatus or "just friends" arrangement and try to turn it back to romantic later - a kind of virtual cuckolding.

The second option is to play the needy one and try to manipulate her into doing it "for you." This is not an approach with maximum integrity, but if you can convince her to role-play it with you a lot in order to be the "good, giving, and game" girlfriend - in other words make it something that she feels virtuous doing, because it is for you - you may (MAY) eventually get her to actualize it, or (more likely, but still not that likely) to use the pattern to get you forgiveness when she slips and falls on some hot guy's cock.

My one warning is that I think the second option basically puts you on the road to never having a good, solid, honest relationship with her. It is essentially a strategy for using her for mutual fun for a while and then moving on to someone else. If you want to preserve the potential of a lifetime, married, healthy pair-bonding, you should be very careful with this one. (Not that you can't use it at all, just be careful.)


I hear you. I think that you will need to move slowly unless you are willing to risk losing her and moving on more quickly. But I also hear it is what you truly want, and I should warn you it may be that you can never get it with this (or any particular given) girl. So you may (MAY) have to choose between the girl or the dream.

But not yet. Try first.

Good luck!
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Very cute girl, you lucky to have such a beautiful untainted woman! However they can be difficult to convince to cuckold you. They look at it as they waited so long to give their virginity to one special man (you) that it would seem less special if they give it to someone else. My ex was like this and she would do anything, and i mean ANYTHING I wanted her to do in the bedroom, but she was a one man kind of woman. So toys were fine, she let me cum in her or on her any way I pleased, she begged to suck my cock and swallow my cum, she even gave me her anal cherry too, but she hated porn and wouldn't even consider cucking me.

However she did open up a little and was going to give chastity play a try, but that was just before we had a blow up argument and broke off our engagement.
Maybe you should try and get her into chastity or some other kinky stuff and toys to lead up to her cucking you.

Hope to hear more updates and would love to see more pics of you and her! Please post another pic or two soon! Good luck!

Clack201

Yeah, I ended up banging some chicks and then falling for a co-worker not long after. Unfortunately she had a boyfriend, but we became close friends and I learned later that I was extremely close to stealing her away from him. During that time, I had--and couldn't help having--nothing but the purest of thoughts and intentions for her. I fantasized about her a great deal, and it was years before the fantasy slowly shifted toward cuckolding. I then had the opportunity to fuck the sister of the wife of a friend just after her on-and-off-again boyfriend begged her to leave with him. Pretty fun. I'm now in the midst of a several-year relationship, and cucking just doesn't seem to be compatible, so it really doesn't even enter my fantasy life concerning her.

So yeah, I'm not really hung up on the ex, and there was every possibility that our relationship wouldn't have worked out regardless. I have no real regrets--it was a fantastic experience. However, if I had the chance to do it again, I would have taken it slower and tried to wait out whatever it was she was going through. I feel like I sort of squandered a great situation. She had a really slutty friend who was a little older, and they went out a lot before we broke up and even more after. That's when she met the military guy. Whether or not our relationship would have lasted, had I been more patient we could have gone even further into debauchery. We might have been living together, she might have been meeting and fucking guys with her slutty friend, she might have been more confident about what she wanted, she might have had steady boyfriends, she might have lost herself in love affairs, and I might have witnessed her new found sexual expression. I feel like I sort of took what was behind door number one without even waiting to hear what was behind door number two. I could have been with her while some aggressive army ranger or whatever the fuck incessantly nailed her. I also learned later that this guy single-handedly cured her of a modest case of vaginismus (I could only ever insert myself a few inches or it caused her pain). I mean, how hot would that have been, to have this guy bury himself in her further than I ever got to? It would have been an amazing set up for games of denial.

In my experience, I think women often tend to DISCOVER their fantasies through men. Younger girls seem to have love and relationship fantasies, but they aren't watching porn and furiously masturbating while developing a rich, disgusting fantasy life the way men are. My ex had no fucking clue about cuckolding before I introduced her to the concept, but when we broke up she expressed concern that I had awoken previously undiscovered desires in her. Hell, for all I know she's cucking the cuckolds brownie out of some guy as we speak. So there's no harm in introducing her to something new... if you don't do it, some other guy no doubt will. I just think you'll have the best chance of getting her to warm to the idea if you consider what young women like about sex and romance in the first place--as in, meeting guys, being chased, flirting, seduction, adoration, aggressiveness, etc., and not just fucking. Humiliation, inadequacy and all that other stuff (if you're into it) is best saved for way later, preferably when she discovers those aspects of the situation for herself. Better to present it to her as your interest in fully exploring her sexuality because it so fascinates you that it would make you marvelously happy to love her while she's fleshing it out than just, "I want other guys to fuck you." Think strategically. For example, if you suspect she's into aggressive alpha types and you also have those tendencies, turn them off. Let her crave it--give her a reamister to want another guy.

Anyway, best of luck. You'll get there okay.

Yes I do believe it is the safest bet to take it slow so she can ease into even thinking about it. I hope her new friends help her open up a little bit, even if its just like letting loose a little and partying more... I think thats a good thing for everyone once and a while. I also want to note she is going to meet a whole new group of people when she goes to med school next year. I will have my degree and I have a great job lined up but she will still be working with other people, mostly men in a school setting... so when she is there I am sure I will ask who she finds attractive and I guess go from there.

Also could happen I guess haha. I hope not, but also true.

Clack201;
Some incredibly sage and insightful advice is given to you on this thread by many knowledgeable people. I strongly suggest that you consider their guidance with all seriousness! These folk know what they are talking about! Good luck!

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