Racism and cuckold fantasies

I recently initiated a poll that asks people whether or not they are disturbed by the racism implicit in some versions of the cuckold fantasy. (Click on the POLL link to cast your vote.)

Unfortunately, there isn't any room for discussion within the poll area. So, I figured that I would post a related message here.

Many aspects of the cuckold fantasy are appealing to me, regardless of race. I find interracial encounters highly erotic because of the way they tear down boundaries between the races. However, I am deeply disturbed by some of the references to "black bulls" and "white women impregnated with black sperm."

There is something about the way that these forums characterize the hypersexualized black man with a big cock that makes me very uncomfortable. It taps into deep-seated racist tropes that go back to the earliest days of American history. Not all black men have big dicks! Not all white men have little ones!

I have had very hot sex with black men myself (I am bi), and would enjoy seeing my girlfriend doing the same thing. But I would also get off on seeing her with white men. Or Asian women. Or white women. Or Asian men. We're all just human beings.

Do pictures of black men with huge cocks fucking white women get me off? Definitely! But it's because those pictures are showing men with huge cocks. It has less to do with the racial aspects of the scenario. (Or at least I want to tell myself that this is the case.)

I'm a white man in my late 30s. This fetish community really turns me on, but some of the racial dimensions make me wary. I'm curious to know what others think. I want to be part of this community, but I don't want to be a racist.

Let's talk about this! I'm not judging anyone, but just want to get a conversation going. Please vote in the poll!

Although I know on the surface the interracial angle of cuckoldry sounds racist, I believe that it is really just a fun and interesting angle that we play with. There is no more harm intended than blacks calling other black Niggarz.

I think the race thing is just like the rough sex scenes. When people visit these topics, I think they're just touching on impulses that are buried deeply in all of us.
Exploring them as we do here is a good thing.

texascurious
I think it can be both. Exploring race through this lifestyle can be good but there are definitely some racists into this and who post on this site, I find it embarassing and disturbing when people refer to the black race as being superior, that's fine if it turns you on to play with that idea in a sexual context but don't put it forward as a valid theory, to me that's just overcompensating for deep-seated racist thoughts and ideas.

texascurious, I've thought much the same thing, but from a different perspective. In my permisteral life I treat people of different races with equal respect, but I believe the fact remains that differences exist between the races, most obvious of these being, for instance, black domination in sports. As general characteristics, on average blacks have higher levels of testosterone, lower levels of bodyfat, and yes...bigger cocks, each directly connected with their athletic dominance. These of course ARE averages, and so you are correct in pointing out that there are big white cocks, just as there are many outstanding white athletes. There are probably even Oriental men with big cocks, but in general the frequency runs blacks first, then whites, then Orientals as the smallest. And at the risk of adding fuel to the fire, average IQs run just the opposite. If these facts happen to confirm racist stereotypes, all I can say is that every stereotype has an element of truth to it, but is certainly not the whole truth. What I see on the interracial board is a stereotyping and even fetishizing of black characteristics, but with enough truth to the stereotypes being applied so that, of all the boards, the interracial clearly reamisterates most strongly among members of this site. Add a submissive/role-reversal dynamic, empowering a group that only 150 years ago were slaves in this country, and you have plenty of meat for a naturally submissive cuckold's fantasies. Boiling it down, it's Mandingo updated to the 21st century. Is it racist? Perhaps to some extent, but more importantly, in a free society we should be able to speak freely of racial differences and even enjoy them. Heck, even Oprah, on a recent show noted on the IR board, bragged about the brothers always having known they were bigger!

Just a quick note--As a former college football player I've been in the shower with dozens of naked black men...On average thier dicks were no bigger then us white guys. With that said, I permisterally have been turned off by the constant posts of the "superior" black lover. When I first got into this I would have been turned on to my wife being with any man that was good looking, and cool regardless of his race. Permisterally I find it extremely racist. I've spoken with a few of my black friends, and they agree it's racist but said...hey, either way I wouldn't mind doing it (but that's another subject) I'd like to hear from other black men on this site, and get their opinion. That being said, because of all this I have become turned off with her ever being with a black man---and too bad for them because she is something else!

black guys aren't going to chime in with their thoughts. they're busy fucking white women and are not on the this board to answer posts regularly... as they should since they are so superior to us white guys in every way.
Obsessed with BBC!

Now that is racist NNECESAIRY - You saying that all blacks are superior to whites is racist...there is no getting around that. If I wrote all whites are superior to blacks, I'm sure you would agree it's a racist comment, as do I. There are superior black men, and superior white men...there are inferior black men, and inferior white men. In every aspect of life, sexually, and every other way. You cannot judge a group solely based on the color of their skin...that is the definition of racism. Although I'm sure in your mind you think you are complementing a race. you are in fact being a racist by definition. I'm not going to go on and on about this there will be disagreements posted all day. I think my biggest problem with wanting to be a cuckold is that I am not what most of the cuckolds on this site physically describe themselves as. I am 6'3" 230 muscular lbs, and have a good size dick, and satisfy my wife sexually. It's not my wife that wants to cuckold me...I have the desire emotionally to be cuckolded....I can't help that I myself as far as physically superior to anyone so far that has contacted us to be a "stud" for my wife. I don't want to go to the swing sites, as my wife is not bi, and we are not interested in a "full swap" Nor am I interested in my wife picking up strange men at a bar, or "pimping" her out like a lot of posts in the Hot wives forum seem to lean. I want to watch my wife with a man, not join in. I want my wife to have a big "studly" lover, but as of yet no one has been bigger, and not one man my wife has met, black or white does she feel is "superior" to me physically. On that note...according to you nnecesairy if all black men are superior, what about the black man that has the desire to be cuckolded??? Are you saying he has no right to feel that way? Wouldn't that be racist? He is a man just like I am...not some sort of an natural for studding without any feelings.

my preference would be for my girlfriend to get with a hung BLACK guy because the color contrast is sexier than if she would get with white, AND because there is a better chance the guy would be hung. i've been around enough to know more black guys are packing large cocks than white boys, AND a black guy would be able to satisfy her better. just the other day we were at a sporting goods store and this black dude walked by and she said she could see the outline of his cock on his running pants, and it was halfway to his kneecap! i almost blew a load in my pants!

My wife prefers black guys for sex. Of course she only sees guys 8 inches or larger so she likes big no matter what race. But she said black guys just know how to fuck better. They can get a rythme going that puts her in orbit. Plus, she said, all the black guys she has been with have been able to cum usuallty 3 times a session. And in fact most never stop fucking after the first time they cum. She likes this aspect of it best

Maybe I feel a little less sensitive about being a racist when I imagine a black man with a huge cock pinning my wife down on our bed with her knees up around her ears and drilling her tight little pussy, because I'm white and my wife is black! She tells me that the times that black men have fucked her since we wed, they would in general want to fuck her harder and better if they learned that she has married to a white man! I think at least some black men particularly enjoy the idea of Cuckolding white husbands, and they want to show my wife that she still needs Big Black Cock.
Old Enough to know better...but I don't!

perhaps it might be a case of - not only is my wife being fucked by another guy, even worse than that he's black - a fantasy of offense, maybe based on racism

I guess cuckoldry and domination/control often go together. Many men like to act in a passive way with their partners, accepting them to fuck other men in their presence, which teases them. Letting someone else be sexually active with your partner is a way of letting someone dominate and control both of you. Usually, women who go into this mention their preference for strong, dominant, assertive men. Now the race thing: letting a guy from a social layer which has always been subservient to upper layers dominate and control both you and your wife, or dominate you through her, is the kink of many white guys, whether they are fully aware of that or not.
There comes the fantasy of super-endowed bulls who might impregnate your partner, or make her become a kind of sexual slave to him. Also, the aspect mentioned above: everybody will learn you're not the man, if ever he gets her pregnant, as well as find it strange seeing your wife/gf and yourself acting so liberal and intimate towards a man of another ethnicity. That is: the unavoidable social aspects also count!