chas allen
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All cuckolds know just what a turn on being cuckolded is, but why also is it so erotic to be told by your wife how much better the sex she is having with her lover is to sex with you? When I used to ask Barbara to pretend that I was her lover, Dave, if I was on top, say, she'd lift herself off the bed and thrust herself forward or say something like 'I wish you were', things like that that only make you even randier. Sometimes when she was slowly and teasingly stroking my cock in the early hours after a session with Dave, while giving me the erotic and graphic details of what she'd been doing, if I suddenly said something like 'Imagine that's Dave's cock', she'd immediately caress me in a totally different way, and usually start saying really sexy things. It's also weird that things she hasn't done with you, when you are told about them, turn you on even more. Like when she told me she'd brought Dave to orgasm orally and then let him cum onto her face, something I hadn't done to her, I just sort of groaned in the erotic desire of it all, and told her something like loving her letting him do that and to let him do it as often as he liked. I was also priviliged to watch the wonderful occasion when she swallowed Dave's cum, something again she'd never done with me, yet I was myself then cumming and almost beside myself with the eroticism of it.
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clive anthony
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yes i agree it is an incredible turn on knowing that the woman you walked down the isle with is now in our marital bed screaming and crying out as a very well hung stud [black most times] is stretching your darling wife to an enormous gape while i listern from outside the door firmly locked into my cb3000 with the key on a chain around her neck. also that this situation is well known to all your family and friends . as i am unable to satisfy her i let my wife have her lovers.
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chas allen
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Yes, I know, it is very erotic. I am your so-called average 6+ but Dave was around 8+ yet instead of feeling even the slightest bit of jealousy, when Barbara would tell me how much she preferred having her lover's big, hard cock inside her, compared to mine, and how she loved feeling his cum spurting inside her, often all the time while slowly masturbating me, I would start spurting myself at her very words. And why is it a turn on to whisper back to your wife things like: 'Tell me how much more you like him fucking you than me.' Also during sex, which I found the most erotic of my life once Barbara started having sex with other men, why does it spur you on even more when the woman you are fucking, your wife of more than 18 years in my case, is telling you stuff about her lovers?
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experimenter
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chas,
Its a total mystery isn't it? I have heard bioloigical reamisters for it, and I guess they seem kind of reamisterable (and interesting, if you are scientifically inclined). I will post them if you are interested.
But you know, not all us cuckolds are cut from the same block. I get off on my wife fucking other guys, for sure - but there are no masochistic or self belittling elements in it at all. more about an unbridled pursuit of pleasure with us. There is no way she (my wife) would ever belittle me over my cuckoldry because she knows I helped her find a lifetstyle that few get to enjoy. Basically I have helped her develop an incredible sexy identity without guilt or shame about being a "slut".
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bobbye
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The simple reamister WE aLL want to be "cucked" is so we can eat lots of CUM, either from ours wife's pussy 's or from the bulls cock.We all secretly crasve CUM. MMMMMMmm. D
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chas allen
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Well, I reckon the masochistic aspect that erico mentioned is an element, even if only subconsciously, and, of course, the voyeuristic one plays a huge part. I mean, I realise the huge range of human sexuality is complex and so on, but look at women's tiolets, for example. I've never been inside one but apparently the sexual graffiti leaves men's toilets for dead. Why when you're having sex with your wife the morning after she'd been with her lover, as I so often did, is that sex so much more intense, so much better? Incidentally, I never for a milisecond went off sex once I became a willing cuckold but for sure afterwards, the sex was off the planet in comparimister to the years before. And so frequently too. I can't believe other cuckolds haven't experienced this, you know, where during the week you come in as your wife's dressing and as she's putting her bra on, her lover's love bites on her tits from the weekend, well, it's either sex or masturbation but for sure it's an instatnt hard-on.
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provoke
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I think there is different kind of cuckolding, and the reamister how it all start can be because a lot of different reamister�
For me it starts in weary young year and when a met my wife I let her know that I would not be jealousies if she fool around with someone else�
She first thought that I was yoking and that it was some kind of test, but when she realised that I was serious she like the idea of a cuckold way of lifestyle�
Know she have a Bull and she and her Bull have sex in a way that me and my wife never have, she let me serve her and her lover when they have sex, and she also power me to clean her up after they have fuck..
I love to se her have multi way of orgasm and it feels great when she compares him with me and tells both of us how much better lover he is�
So for me I think it�s a way of presentation include in our way of cuckold lifestyle.
I don�t like when the �Hot wife� been used of outer men, I think she is the one that will be on top, at least of the �Hubbi�� We are a Cuckold couple from Sweden, like to talk to cuckoldcouples...
My wife have a bull...
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randyadrian
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provoke
Would love to hear more from you two!
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krystal dream
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Hi, New to site I think that he loves to watch me have sex with others more than me having it!! hi,and thanks for viewing me,message me im not picky,(krystal)
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experimenter
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Krystal, you are hot!
Have you all noticed how the membership numbers for this site are shooting upward? It was about 40,000 when i joined earlier this year - now 60,000. I know people don't cancel accounts, but an incredible surge in interest all the same!
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jacana
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Just some comparimisters in this thread. My gf and I have engaged in the cuck thing. I am no longer jealous. But if she doesn't do the cucky things, I am not jealous, but just annoyed and disappointed.
She tells me that I am better, my cock is bigger. This doesn't turn me on. I just think that she is lying. She showered after so I couln't 'clean up'. She doesn't talk much about the sex with him, doesn't humiliate or tease me. She liked the cb3000 at first but got tired of controlling me.
Anyway, I am not jealous, just disappointed and bored now. I will make you crazy.
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ifonly
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It's a turn on because it allows the man to submit to female authority happily, without tension, it allows him to cast off societal expectations and go back to his submissive roots.
I get an erection just thinking about my wife enjoying sex with other men of her choice to my exclusion, and then being sladyed under her freshly sexed pussy. ifonly
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holdbackthenight
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Krystal, what can I say, except I adore you!
Sigh .....
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Thug
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Experimenterhow refreshing to hear your point of view instead of the same old litany. A masculine man who gets off on his wife having other studs. As a young bull I can relate to that and respect you for it - it's the pussy I am after not the offense of some self fulfillimg sissy (who by the way is a long way from being a true cuckold) though some just can't relate to reality. Cuckoldry in its proper sense has nothing to do with authoritarian viragos or submissive males. Glad someone knows the difference.
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Sa Tyr
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It is an intoxicating kind of thrill and highly addictive. I started as the lover of the wife of a married couple, as the "bull" I suppose and we progressed to all 3 of us playing together on the same bed (he was bi), none of us was into offense or things like that, just sharing sexy fun. The relationship lasted about 3 years and we were all very close friends. The couple were in love with eachother, accommodating eachother's preferences: he was bi and she was insatiable for cock. In time I began to understand the enjoyment he was getting by this arrangement. Once I brought my g/f to a session and I expereinced first hand what it is to be watching your own woman having sex with someone else. WOW. It made me naucious and dizzy, sick in the stomach BUT it made me feel the horniest I ever felt in my life up to that point. As I said, intoxicating and addictive, we met as a 4-some from then on and my g/f was introduced into female-female sex by the guy's wife. No offenses, no blacks, no crem pies, no golden showers etc, just the psychological rollercoaster was enough for us.
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p_1005
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i am a cuck wannabe and find the fantasies exciting and addictive. Would love to chat with others in the same situation. My wife and I are respected professionals, and tho she is very sexy, she is also socially sophisticated and not slutty. In my fantasies, she loves fucking him and i watch and jo, humiliated, and loving the offense. The fantasy gets deeper and deeper and more and more delicious...if you want to chat on yahoo IM, send me a msg: p_1005 pacree
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MelSubHub
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THis is a great question & thread - Chas Allen - thanks for starting it.
I think about this regularly. It is an unbelievable turn on for me. The #1 sexual thought I have. People differ, but I think there are several factors from my own experience, thoughts, as well as some research I've read - I'll list some of the things as well as incorporate my own experience. These include - elevated attractiveness; voyeurism; sub/dom feelings; etc. These below are in no particular order:
1) It's very common for the sex between H/W after one of them has an affair, to be extremely erotic. This is especially the case when the wife is the one who had the affair. Some of the psychologists I've heard discuss this point to the fact that the cuckolded spouse now sees his wife as more desireable - he knows others are attracted to her. It has always turned me on when my wife tells me someone was flirting with her or came onto her. There is a pride issue here in a subtle way. In fact, when you go back to high school or college days, we see the same thing. The more interest that's shown in a girl - the more others are interested in her. I found this true in the opposite sense as well. When I was dating someone steadily - I think other girls found me more appealing (Subconsciously, they might think, "hmmm, there must be something about this permister that is attractive if she's dating him..."). The thought of my wife having sex with another makes me jealous - but it also then makes me want her more. Knowing that others want her, or that she wants others, makes her more attractive to me.
2) Vicarious experiences - when your wife does something with a man that she has not done with you (e.g., swallowed his cum - that's a huge turn on for me as well) - it's almost a vicarious experience in that you have longed for her to do that in the past - but now you finally see that she is turned on enough to do it to another guy. Seeing her turned on that way gets you turned on as well. You know she had to be excessively randy to do that - especially if she has not done it to you. I'm getting hard just writing about this part. Sometimes you can even put yourself into the man's feelings as he's cumming in your wife - you know he's getting to experience that thrill (and you know he's thinking, "I have another man's wife - I'm conquering her and him") and that aspect has massive implications.
3) Voyeurism - seeing her do these things is very hot - similar to watching a porno (though now, any movie I see of a woman - I am not attracted to the woman - I envision my wife in her spot doing those things). Eve if you don't see your wife doing it, when you see the results (marks on her body; or hear her talk about it) - the mind is able to relive the scenes. Also, seeing her really turned on and out of control (which is what you wanted when you first got married) is a big part of this. It's like she's become what you hoped she would be on that wedding night long ago.
4) The mind is an exceptionally powerful tool. Usually the mind is better than the real thing - only in the sense that the scenes are perfect in there. The thoughts of her having hot sex are closely linked to you. For me, my wife and I have in many ways become "one" - so, what she experiences, the thrills and excitement, I experience. This is part of the vicarious aspects, but it is also controlled by the perfected thoughts within the mind.
5) dom/sub thoughts. This all depends on the permister. For me, I love to submit to a dominant woman. When my wife is dominant sexually, it really turns me on. That's how we got started. I loved being submissive to her; seeing her dress as a dominatrix; worshiping her feet. The first time I kissed her feet in a Dom/sub scenario - I was rock hard. She is not a real "dominant" permister when it comes to sex. But, when she is, I am extra turned on. And, for her to fantasize about another man - that is one of the ultimate forms of domination isn't it? To be so dominant - or for you to be so submissive - that she is free to have sex with another man and you must not only accept it as the submissive, you must actually be SO submissive that you enjoy it!
- When she says, "I'm going to fuck him; HE'S going to make me orgasm and I'm going to accept HIS cum, not yours; and HE is the one I'm turned on by and am giving my body to completely - and you are not only going to submissively allow it - you will LIKE it and you will admit that it turns you on!" I'm lost in desire - I've been "had" so to speak. I've been taken, dominated, controlled completely. There is a sense that I have let go completely and given my desires over to another - entirely. Such that she controls them, I don't.
- I don't know of a more powerful aphrodisiac than this last one - especially in combination with #1. When these things come together, they make a powerful elixer. It's the combination of all these that become so overwhelming.
I have noticed that the cuckold tends to be more addictive toward sex than a lot of others. Some people just like to get off and have fun with it. But, for me, I feel I am almost addicted to it. That troubles me somewhat and I may end it at some point - if I am able to.
I find myself wanting these one-time, full-out, do it all, 1-2-3 day experiences, and then will tell my wife - "okay, after this, we have to go back to normalcy - or even abstain for a while and get our heads on straight." Knowing her and knowing that she largely engages in this fantasy with me for my sake (though it turns her on) - I know she would do it. But, I'm not sure I'm ready for that.
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chiburbscouple
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Did you know that half a sperm is designed to compete with and ******* other sperm. Cave women must have been gang-bang sluts to have this evolve. Also research has showed that when men are competitive, they get harder, thrust deeper and ejaculate with a greater power.
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chas allen
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Fantastically interesting comments and you're so right, it's an aphrodisiac like no other. In fact, I'd call most of the cuckolds I've read of - including myself - more accurately wittols and it's very interesting to know that many men have been turned on by this for centuries. I mean, we all know it seems ridiculous, even perverse and obscene to some people, I'd imagine, but you can't dismiss this area of human sexuality with such simplicity. God alone knows why but it has to be faced that in the complexity of sexual relationships, many married men truly want other men to have sex with their wives. What's more, their wives defintely want other men too.
This last aspect to me is one so wrapped up in these matters. I've mentioned before the graffiti that is supposed to adorn the tiolet walls of women's toilets and how it leaves men's for dead, and what with things like Nancy Friday's books, well, I reckon women too, many women at that, would like to experience sexually other men. Barbara admitted to me, and not that long after she started having sex with other men, that she felt a huge liberation, a kind of freedom that had been long supressed.
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MelSubHub
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Quoting: krystal dream Hi, New to site I think that he loves to watch me have sex with others more than me having it!! I'd say for most cuckolds, or "wittols" (which is more accurate, as you note chas) love watching their wives have sex more than they themselves desire sex. I can hardly orgasm without thinking about a cuckold scenario.
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chas allen
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Well, I permisterally still enjoyed the sex I had with Barbara but its intensity increased a thousand fold once I'd become a cuckold. It's a fantastic thing to know, like we've said before, but when you are having sex with your wife who, for example, only the night before had been with her lover, the feeling of eroticism is almost over-whelming. It's a phenomenal turn-on. But definitely, in the last few years of our marriage before she finally cuckolded me, like a lot of men, I never had sex without cuckold fantasies running through me, never.
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chas allen
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P_1005, I am interested in your reply. As a wannabe cuckold, has your wife given off any of those so-essential signs, like I mean, does she also desire sex with other men? Can you tell from things she'd said/done and so on? Is it something that's been raised or is it just a desire in your mind? I also like your comment about your wife not being slutty as neither was my ex-wife and this was an area that directly through the influence of her great lover, Dave, eventually led her and I to ending our marriage, though we have had sporadic contact over the last couple of years or so.
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experimenter
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MelSubHub,
Interesting that you talk about sexual addiction - and talk about in a negative sense. I think we are, for sure - but I relly like it that way. I know some people (in regular life!) just think I am youngish, priapic etc. But its all bullcuckolds brownie, honestly. Most people fill up their lives with something phoney and artificial - but we fill our lives up with something primal and vital.
If I were you, I would think carefully before submitting to that wall of societal influence that tells you that what you do is "addiction" and therefore somehow less significant. Its a very subtle form or moralising. Liberal friends will tell that what i do is morally OK, but kind of youngish and invalid. I may be wrong, and if I am - please explain! I have never heard an intelligent, articulate rebuttal of my lifestyle. I don't even argue it any more! I don't even discuss it with my wife!! We just do it.
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Thug
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I guess addiction (not looked up the scientific explanation) is the displacement of all other social and permisteral activities and interactions in favour of one "hobby". Only 5% of people in UK polled describe themselves as football fans yet a visitor from another planet would assume we were addicted to the game. Be sure if the big media companies thought they could make easy billions out of promoting a legal activity such as wife/girlfriend "watching", cuckoldry etc they would; just as they have in soap opera land. the difference (now rapidly narrowing) between US and UK soap opera is that every female on American tv is portrayed as a sexual entity only. I might be addicted to pussy and raunchy sex but I do have a functional life outside of that activity. Sometimes not a good idea to disect one's permisteral relationship interactions. So long as it is enjoyable, racy, consensual, legal then just get on with it. I respect the views of everyone here at cuckoldplace but sometimes the mentality of the C4 tv sex documentary ethos takes over and we all know how prissy tv journalists on the make can be.
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experimenter
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Thug, you are SO on the money!
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clive anthony
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hi thug i am doing fine hope u r ok love paula xx as i am unable to satisfy her i let my wife have her lovers.
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Thug
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hi Paula - hope you getting as much as you need and happily some more! I am good - opinionated as always but exploring sex is fun. My boundaries haven't been set yet. Ty, experimenter- I can endure most stuff but not being exploited. If I defined myself by the peculiar parameters of PLAYGIRL magazine I'd join a monastery and become celibate. Ha!
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jindaboy
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Experimenter, you summed it up for me in your May 27 expression. Its about us sharing a lifestyle that is perfectly suited to our own permisteral situations. In our case, my illness facilitated a change in our sexual lifestyle. At the time I was fearful that I would never be able to experience enjoyment with her from sex again, and my dread of that loss was far in excess of any fear I had of my cancer or of the treatments and repercussions I might expect. (I have since discussed this fear with road accident quads and paraplegics and many of the married men experience that same fear...that they can deal with the injuries, but that the removal of sexual release and pleasure is in fact one of their greatest fears). But in time my wife and I were able to discuss various alternatives and we have now been living this lifestyle for 5 years. It is about trust, it is about wanting to give your partner something that nobody else can....the freedom to be sexually adventurous, sexually uninhibited with anyone they choose. I don't know why other people married their wives but in my case it was because I loved her so deeply that I could never imagine living a day without her. To see her happy, to hear her and see her in the throes of passion as another man fills her...I don't think I can describe anything more permisteral to share, perhaps the birth of a young? Some cucks are born, some are made....some get to choose and some don't. I am permisterally not into the self deprication nor does my wife or her lovers disrespect me for not having a penis. We share a bond and a level of trust that very few people in the world get to share, thats something I believe other cucks could dwell on for a moment....we're a very fortunate band of men when its all boiled down aren't we? JB another successful mission
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Mister Junior
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Experimenter, I'm interested in hearing what the science has to say. Please share.
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damian70
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You are kind of born to it and it it is also heavily influneced by your upbringing... things that happen and imprint in younghood. It's all about Mating strategy... You have your Alpha Males Big tough aggressive, the natural mating strategy, find and take as many women as you can and Move on. They are tough and can face a physical challenge from another Male. Alphas naturally are aroused by Sex with other males Mates. When an Alph thinks about sex or looks at a woman he thinks of Fucking her... period.
Beta males... varying degrees here, Beta males like to make friends with Alphas to protect there mates, they are not as prone to try and mate with others and will mate with asingle female and sometimes stray. betas get the urge to Fight back when others try to Mate copulate with there mates but if it looks overwhelming the beta can use the defense mechanism of becoming submissive to the Alpha Male If absoloutely neccessery. A Betas Mate will engage in seeking sperm from other but do her best to hide it, away from the nest so to speak and tries to avoid conflict there.
Sub Beta... This group, which for some reamister is becoming for more common in human is wired to use presentation in order to mate successfully, Sub Betas or cucks as we call ourselves avoid all potential conflict over mate by having a very strong submissive tendencey... when an Alpha is near the beta becomes so submissive as to draw the alph to it, it benefits by the Alpha often impregnating it's spouse by raising Alph youngren alongside its own and aslo tends to attract to itself Very Alpha females that know the Sub Beta will be an aid in her reproducing with other Alphas. In other way the Sub Beta uses its tendencies to thwart the Alpha reproducing, Orally consuming the Sperm from its mate after reproduction is very common. In the wild a sub Beta Mammal enjoys alot of benefits, it's mate does not need to stray from the nest to sneak mating so the Sub Beta is aware when she is fertile, by allowing frequent mating she is a less likely target in her fertile period, he maintains a degree of control, both by Oral removal and by offering himself in submissive fashion the sub beta can diminish the amount of sperm it's mate recieves. The Sub Beta is also extremely attractive to Alpha females, where for the Majority of the species betas never land an Alpha female... normally only Alphas would Mate Alphas... The Sub Beta actually attracts this extremely good genetic material to itself because the alpha female is instantly aware that she will have more mating options with him then with an Alpha Male who will combat with perspective mates. The Alpha female and Beta male in a way cooperate, both her getting more genetic diversity and hime getting to reproduce several youngren with a strong Alpha female. The nest/home of a beta male can be very safe raising his Beta and sub beta offspring along side other alpha youngren who protec/support the unit.
The SubBetas Sexual instincts are an exact mirror match for the Alpha females. By creating an Exact Match in mating desires closer cooperation and closer families becomes the norm. It is Highly likely that the reamister for large numbers of subbetas in Human populations arise from the success of the mating cooperation. It is easy to make an assumtion that society itself in primates arose centered around the Sub Beta who had the capacity to exist in larger groups under an Alpha without conflict and benefiting from the others
It could be said that Modern society was Cucked into existence ;)
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