what should I do?

finding it really difficult now not having sex at all. we relax togetrher but she will not allow anything to happen other than cuddling. she seems to get sexier by the day tho. she says she has to remain faithful to Danny for now.

Sounds like you are suffering , Martin. If you want to compare notes or chat you can reach me on bea_cheated on yahoo im

Martin365

faithful to Danny ?

I could not stand it if I were in your shoes but it seems some people like sex denying as you can read here in other threads.
It's up to you man.

Good luck
Chiama quando vuoi...

no I don't like being denied sex. I would not mind her being with him as long as she had sex with me too. I'd even agree to wearing a condom

to be honoust i only see this getting worse...next she wont even cuddle you or relax in the same bed with you.
If you dont like it you have to do something about it.

Whilst I would be happy for my wife to have a boyfriend to have regular sex with, I don't think there is any way I could handle it if I were not having sex with her too. Well Martin for coping thus far and I hope your wife tires of Danny soon.
Peter C

My opinion is that you should not accept situations beyond a certain line - and make a stand for it. And refusing her husband to have sex is, in my opinion, absurd; I am not blaming you, it's just incredible that even the mostabsurd things can be accepted if you start discussing them.

My recommendation is that you make a stand now along the lines: "I feel isolated and unappreciated, I need to be with you sexually etc." and, if she refuses, be prepared to call the shots. If you do not make a stand right now, you will have to wait until (and if!) they break apart.

Also, you should not only deal with the situation as it is; think of the possible mext steps: she may move in with him - and then you will loose sight.

Last note: leaving her ring etc is of great symbolic importance; it was a clear signal that she is gone from you rmarriage; she is casting you as a friend now.

Meanwhile, enjoy the fucking going on - or arrange a threesome! (If you can't avoid it etc.)
Panos

she stayed here this weekend and didn't see Danny at all, though they did speak on the phone. on the whole a good weekend but still no sex, it's getting frustrating now. she even admitted that she is finding it difficult. she says her sex drive is much higher since she met Danny and she would like sex more often but she says she must stay faithful otherwise he will end it all. she won't accept my argument that he would never know anyway.

one slightly related development which I thought you might be interested in today. Last Thursday this new temp started at my work called Rachel. She is very attractive and a mega sexy body. Maybe my lack of sex at the moment makes her seem so sexy but I think not - she has a great figure. Anyway today we got chatting and she seemed quite flirty. Have to adit to being quite flattered.

I am probably deluding myself but I do feel thereis some chemistry there.

I know many of you must be thinking that I should go for it in view of my current predicament but it's notthat easy. OK she might flirt but that does not mean much. Also in spite of everything I still do not think I could cheat on Julia. However, got to admit it would be tempting with this girl.

Martin my advice is
a: go for the girl no remorse no this or that just go for it (and possibly posta couple of pics of her while you are doing her)
b: train your wife as a proper slut, find couples of bulls (one at a time) to flirt with her (without her knowing).
She is a bitch eager for sex now so she will fuck them both and most likely forget Danny or relegate him as a possible fuck (if he fit in the picture)

enjoy
ciao
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Martin, I'm with panos_yogi on this. If this is not a turn on for you � you need to put your foot down. You gave her and supported her and now it is totally justifiable for you to draw a line. Relationship with another guy, fine; no sex for me - no way.

A marriage is about more than sex (as I'm sure she keeps saying) and so it must be for her. A marriage is an agreement between two people to put each other first. You have honored it by acquiescing in her need for outside sex, for outside romance, and even for the need to share that relationship with friends and relatives. But now she is agreeing to hurt you for his sake - and that dishonors the marriage. Time to draw the line.

He is asking her to give up something important to her husband. She should say no and you should tell her that. Tell her that this is not about you and sex, it is about whether she is going to choose sex with Danny over her marriage - the choice is hers and you really want her to stay, but this is a compromise too far for you. Point out how accommodating you've been. Tell her that you love her to little pieces and will be deeply sad if she chooses him over you - but that is what it is. She doesn't have to give up sex with him, but she has to put her foot down that he needs to butt out of your marriage. (If he can't, maybe she should find another boyfriend who isn't so controlling.)

I know you don't want to do this. You don't seem that confrontational and you love her and want to save your marriage. I'm with you. But this is the pivotal time. If you don't do this, the marriage will collapse one way or another.
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I feel a bit guilty about this but I am going for a take tomorrow evening with Rachel, the temp. There has been more flirting so I asked her out. I was very flettered that she agreed. I ahven't told Julia. She is seeing Danny this weekend anyway. I feel bad that I am not being honest though

worst thing that could happen that night is that you will have sex,nothing she wont be doing with danny.. so really dont feel bad

I think it would be a mistake for martin to relax with rachel - that would really be putting the relationship at risk.

My advice would be to just wait out her realationship with danny. Long term couples often go through periods where they don't have a huge amount of sex and are more like best friends than lovers. Usually the sex drive between the couple comes back on its own if given time.

The only difference here is that there is another guy causing the dry spell, but at least Martin is getting somewhat turned on by that fact (as opposed, say, to the dry spell being caused by both of them working 60 hours weeks.)

She's his wife. If doing this is making her happy, he should be happy for him. And she's being open about what she's doing. Him going with rachel would be far, far less than open.

And it would be wrong for rachel, because she might see a potential connection, while Martin is only seeing a way to get laid/get back at his wife.

dblue makes some very good points. It would be totally different from what my wife is doing if I were to do anything with Rachel. This would be dishonest and wrong. Julia deserves better than that. I really don't believe that she has ever intentionally lied to me.

I will still go for the take but I will do nothing sexually with Rachel even if she is interested, no matter how tempting she is. My wife would be upset if I was unfaithful and I need to be sensitive to that. I love her and she does not deserve to be mistreated in that way

Martin, there you go, thats the spirit! let your wife enjoy herself and besides you have agreed to this. It would be very wrong to cheat on your wonderful wife. stay submissive and do not upset her by being dishonest, you will start to slowly understand her needs and enjoy the frustration of not being able to have sex with your wife

Yes, martin. once you accept it not being able to fuck her for a while may become the sweetest, sexiest *** you have ever felt.

Well, Martin... I thought there was some hope for you. I guess I was wrong. Call Rachel and cancel the takes before you waste her god damn time.

Guess you forgot your wife cheated on you by fucking a complete stranger 3 times in one night, letting him cum inside her and possibly give her some disgusting disease.

You go right on ahead and worry about her feelings.

dblue is not giving you good advice, man. He's giving you advice that will help your story get him off tonight.

guys this is difficult. Rachel looks so sexy today I a short black dress. I am going for the take and I know it will be tempting.

Julia knows I am going for a take but I have promised that I will not do anything naughty. She left this morning to see Danny - she was alos looking so sexy.

The people who tell you not to have sex wich rachel are just turned on by the fact that your wife can fuck someone else and you cant fuck anyone.

And why dont you talk to your wife about fucking rachel.. i mean she can hardly say no since she is fucking martin right? And if she really doesnt want you to fuck rachel tell her to start fucking you again..

Unless you really want to be a cuckold in wich case you woulndt even be thinking about fucking rachel.. and you would be happy about your wife not wanting to fuck you ever

I have mentioend it to Julia but she really does not want me to do anything with Rachel. She won't have sex with me whilst she is with Danny, she beleives that you should be faithful to one sexual partner at a time.

I find her having a bf exciting but would like to be able to have sex with her too.

I have mentioend it to Julia but she really does not want me to do anything with Rachel. She won't have sex with me whilst she is with Danny, she beleives that you should be faithful to one sexual partner at a time.

I find her having a bf exciting but would like to be able to have sex with her too.

well share the same believe,since you have no sexual partner now go find one..

Martin,

I can identify with many parts of your situation, and with your pain. Cuckolding � in the real world, as against fantasy, often involves her falling in love, divided loyalties and needs, the risk of losing her, and his need for growing control. You may be beyond the point of halting Julia�s relationship with Danny � but for you the question remains; �do you really want to?� Only you know your inner cucky feelings, but many of the things you write suggest that the �slippery slope� calls to your innermost feelings. Does your weakness also make you aroused? Do you masturbate thinking of how Julia loves Danny? Can you admit you are going to let him stop you having sex with Julia? Perhaps you have to accept the way it is going and make the best of it, eroticising your failure to satisfy her. Let us know your feelings and what happens. And you have all our best wishes.

martin, think of it this way, is your wife more important to you or rachel ? is your wife's needs more important to you or rachel ? i'm sure your answe is your wife. do what you believe is right and enjoy yourslef. dont listen to what others tell you to do or whats right or wrong. but do not hurt or disappoint your wife in any way. dont ever lie to her

in my opinion you should not let Rachel drift away.. you should go for sex counselling (since you wrote Julia never had an orgasm with you) and then go for that girl....forget your wife..
may be it is not you but Julia.. some time people simply do not match in bed.. you will probably not given her an orgasm but there areplenty of women out there "waiting" to scream of pleasure with you.. Once you both have expreinced may be then coming back together.... you know diversity helps...

plus

she has not proven worth of you.. this absurd ideas of faithfulness has to come to an end, better with some pleasure for you than some sad remorse
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Wait, the bottom line is Martin has to figure out if he's essentially into cuckolding or polyamory.

Many of his posts imply he's a natural cuckold, in which case he shouldn't even think about going out with rachel.

On the other hand if he's into polyamory then he needs to disuss that with Julia (who may or may not be into it.)

Simply relaxing with Rachel without talking to Julia puts his marriage in big jeapordy.

On the other hand if he an accept being a cuck, and only he can know that, his marriage can more likeyly than not weather the affair.

disastrous weekend. Julia came back from being with Danny all weekend late last night. She now has a tattoo on her right arm with a red heart and the word Danny inside. Even she seemed a bit upset about that. She had agreed to it when they were in bed fucking. She agreed that if he gave her three orgasms she would have the tattoo. It is clear that he can make her orgasm almost at will. She says her body just responds to his so easily.

Friday evening with Rachel was also terrible. I had decided beforehand that I would not do anything. We had a good time at the start and she seemed up for some fun. Later on we bumped into some work colleagues in the pub. Ater a while omne of them got chatting to Rachel and they ended up getting off together. This morning he told me he fucked her and that she was sensational.

Martin365
Sorry to say that but it seems you lost your wife.
I know you love her but it looks she's been not too smart on the tatoo and all the things she's done before.
I wonder if she's telling the truth or she's telling you lot of bullcuckolds brownies.
Chiama quando vuoi...

Martin, you had all week-end alone to take Rachel home and enjoy her you left her slip like that.... no comment

my suggestion now?
while julia is gone change the lock and forget her...

tell your story to Rachel ( not the whole think, just that your wife is gone)
and invite her for a coffee...
she fucked your collegue she my prefer you this time be positive
your italian bull in Venice
lets meet over week-ends or full weeks: your gorgeous hotwife will be my slut. From unaware sexy ladies to complete slut in training. Classy and strong. please Pm for detail. Age 49. Looks younger. Will travel to European de