what should I do?

I have to agree with some of the other posters here. This is not a situation where you are going to keep your wife - the way you describe it, sounds like he wants to take her from you, permanently, and she's going along with it.

If you want to keep your wife, you're going to have to make a stand and demand honesty and respect from your wife. Sex is one thing, lying to you about it, telling him that she loves him, talking to him on the phone all the time - these are things that indicate that she's in a relationship with him, and not just a sexual one. He has control, and he's going to shut you out eventually, if you don't do something about it.

Quote 'Have to admit given the choice of fucking her or her fucking her boyfriend I would go for the letter. Am I mad?'

I have never been a cuckold and am now probably too old ever to experience it. But the concept has always attracted me. Not being able to experience it in real life prompted me to write a story about cuckoldry, in which I sought to explore its attraction. I had the protagonist muse over this very question and articulate why he wanted to be cuckolded.

Judging from the feedback the story has struck a chord with very many people.

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Your wife is a cheater and has very little respect for you.

You should have respect for yourself and dump her right away.

Cheating and cuckolding are two different things. Your wife cheated on you and you are a puss ass for staying with her.

Show some self respect and dignity and throw her cheating worthless ass to the curb.

hello martin, do you have more infos for us about your wife and her lover? do you have any pics for us to see ?

Martin, I agree with those folks who are concerned at this point with the soundness of your marriage. I also want to particularly agree with dkei44555 that you need to be careful about some of the �advice� � more like cheerleading � on this site, many of us write on this site. None of us know your marriage or your wife as well as you do and we are not really in a position � as disembodied cyber-jeerers who may live in lives and communities and choices very different from yours � to give you wise counsel.

Having said all that, I repeat the thought I shared earlier in the thread. The only legitimate power you, or anyone, has over a partner is that permister�s desire to be with you. Do you know the old homily: �if you love something, set it free, if it comes back to you it is truly yours�? Cloying though it is, there is all manner of truth in it.

Of course, this does not mean you ought not to protect yourself from when you can. The psychological and emotional damage from losing someone can be very significant. Depending on your sexual twists, it can also be hot, (as fingertax suggests) but from what you write, you don�t sound to me like someone who will enjoy that sort of consolation.

And, of course, we can only know you from what you write, which is why our advice is perpower second rate at best. For instance, if (and I think this remains a big if) your marriage really is in any real kind of danger, I am very surprised. From what you have written you have had a good, solid marriage of three years (and presumably a somewhat longer relationship). If she is really ready to suddenly walk from it, I think there is something you aren�t coming to grips with about the underlying relationship. I agree with dkei44555 that your failure to give her an orgasm is an issue. It does not seem to me to be a great enough issue to break you-up, but I�m not in a position to know how important it is to her. (I was never able to give my wife an orgasm during the act, but with some tender stroking, accompanied by displays of enthusiasm and lust I could get the job done.)

There are two issues that confront you: The first is whether your wife is being honest with you (and/or with herself) when she says she won�t leave you. I�m an optimist and if I had to bet I�d say she was being honest with you. (And as fingertax says, if she isn�t, you are already cooked.) Whether she is being honest with herself is the real question. The second issue is what to do about it if the answer is no.

You are far better equipped than any of us to judge how honest she is being. You may want to ask yourself how honest and open the last conversation with her was. If I were in your shoes, I�d be nervous that taking her aside in a moment when Danny was away, but still visiting for the weekend is not really the ideal moment for her to focus and really think deep about her answers.

If you have doubts, here�s a suggestion: After he goes, why not have a conversation that is really open? Tell her that you love her and don�t want to lose her and that the situation with Danny has made you worry that she is going to leave. Be honest about how you feel (now, after the fact) about his staying in the home, about her saying she loves him, etc. Tell her (if this is true and, again, I can only go by your writing) that it is all OK with you if she is staying, but you are just insecure because you value her so much and you want to protect yourself if it is all going sour. (Hell, she�s been married to you for three years � she�s not a sadist. If she is leaving she does not want to hurt you.) I would ask her to think deeply about what she really feels and to be honest with you about her doubts, her fantasies, and her thought process.

For what it is worth, here is my opinion: From what you have written, I think she is staying. Everything she has said to you � about being grateful to you for letting this happen, about loving him but you too, about wanting him but not wanting to give you up � are pretty classic polyamoury / open relationship signs. Based on my own very real experiences, I would say that her biggest fear is that you will dump her for being so �bad� and that right now she thinks you are a tower of strength, tolerance, and devoted compassion for letting her have this relationship. You will lose some of that if you get aggrieved, but you likely only enhance your standing and the intimate bond between you if you confess some vulnerability and you need for reassurance of her devotion. (After all, you don�t want her thinkin you are so good and strong you can get by without her or deserve better, yadda, yadda, yadda.)
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

hey martin, great thread.
I am in the opinion that if it turns you on, you should go for it.. and besides lusting off the erotic experience, it serves to you as a little experiment to determine how much you can trust your wife. If she stays with you after fucking danny, you can be sure you are her man... even if its her wimp-man, but her man nevertheless. I had an experience VERY VERY similar to yours... and everything turned out fine (and no, i didnt end up wearing panties, or NO i dont have a small dick, or i didnt end up being a little maid cum-sucking wuss). I was a very jealous guy, so I just asked her like, so i could get over my jealousy, to please go and fuck someone for the hell of it, be a total slut, and tell me all about it. Well, after a while, she did, and actually fucked the guy more than once... but the guy wasnt from around so eventually it just died off.... I cant even count how many times i wanked off thinking of the situation. And now i can trust my wife more than ever.
So cmon!! go for it! and let us know how the weekend went

what happened next?

anyway I think you started the correct way for getting cuckolded, you use condom and he goes bareback.........

well they had a bit of a row on Sunday - him trying to get her to agree not to have sex with me anymore. She has refused and he left a bit early.

When he had gone we had a great time - very affectionate. She told me that she is thinking of ending it with him. She does not love him really but the sex is great. She thinks now that she was mistaken in believing she loved him - she feels it was just lust. They had sex 4 times over the weekend - each time was fantastic she says.

He phoned yesterday but she did nto speak to him for long - has said that she is deciding whether to stay in touch

Voila! That sould put many of your fears to rest. When she was pushed, she chose you. The fact that you were not the one to do the pushing has put you in a great place. You are the one who trusted her and the bond between you and didn't get possesive or competitive - the high-gound in her esteem.

Yes, I do know men who would get off at havng their wife refuse them sex at the request of their boyfriend. But that isn't you and that is not the cuckolding marriage you want and so good.

Between us my advice to your wife would be to dump the guy (he seems to be more into the bull power trip then her after all ) and start shopping for new playmates. I do not think you should offer this advice too assertively, however. Be open with you counsel if she asks or it is appropriate in you conversation, but the important thing is that you trust and respect her to make the final decision herself. That vote of confidence will strengthen your relationship.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

u lucky man!!!! is she still gonna see him, you shud let her, she's piked you but u get 2live out your fantasy and still have a loving wife

Martin,

at some point you should offer a trip to Venice to thank her to be such a wonderfull and lovable creature and may be we can arange something to geht her please.. be reassured that I will not compete with you as the guy is doing...but will do my best to please and satisfy her.. and myself..

ciao for now
your italian bull in Venice
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your italian bull in Venice
lets meet over week-ends or full weeks: your gorgeous hotwife will be my slut. From unaware sexy ladies to complete slut in training. Classy and strong. please Pm for detail. Age 49. Looks younger. Will travel to European de

Whats the latest, Martin? How are you feeling....reassured and aroused?

First, she start all this by cheating, and it's obvious that your wife had full intentions of having sex with Danny the second time she visited. I mean she didn't buy sexy clothes to show her sister. Yet she insisted that nothing would happen. Second, she let this guy cum in her.:shame: It's great she's on the pill but what about diseases. How well does she really know Danny after one night?? Third, she told him she loved him right in front of you...total disrespect and disregard of your feelings as her husband. Lastly, she brought Danny to your home, even though that wasn't the plan.

Regardless of how Danny left, they will get together many more times. If I were in your shoes, I would get a girlfriend on the side and see how she deals with it. I mean, why should she have all the fun.

Martin
Wasn't there the last few days but I see things evolved in a good way for you.

I agree with MrsBlackBlowupDoll: you're in a great place now.

Let her find a new cock and enjoy your new wife.
Chiama quando vuoi...

we want pics of your wife the story is great andI think you should encorage her to continue thier relationship and slowly perswade her to have him move in while you take the spare room if you love her you will do this to her.

YOUR WIFE IS ALREADY GONE!!! GET USED TO IT!!

Martin,
are you still there?
Chiama quando vuoi...

Maybe some folks need to read Martin's post of 28 November again. His wife chose him. This is a story with a happy ending.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

hi everyone - sorry I have been away so long. So much has been happening I don;t really know ewhere to start.

she has made it up with Danny and went up there for a few days before Christmas. When she came back she told me that she had fallen in love with him again. She still loves me but said she could not now dream of giving up Danny. She introduced him to her mum, who knew about him from her sister. She has also told all her friends about him.

we had many chats and she says she really wants to stay with me. I agreed that she could keep him, but the problem basically is the sex. Danny is getting really insistent that she should only have sex with him - in the end I was prepared to agree to wearing a condom every time but this does not seem to be enough for him. Julia has asked if I love her enough to stay with her even if I cannot have sex with her.

We made love last night but she cried afterwards - said she felt guilty as she had promised to be faithful to Danny. She says she loves both of us and wants to stay married to me and have him as a boyfriend. But she says that it is wrong to be having a sexual relationship with more than one man.

One of her mates came round on boxing day. When Julia was out of the room she burst into a fit of laughter.

what are you intending to do?

i think you should accept it and put your dick in a cb giving him the keys, what's your opinion?

OMG
Chiama quando vuoi...

Martin,
you are looser.I feel so angry,that women can play with mens like this
But you are an idiot and let her to do this.
I knew it,that this couldnt be a happy end..It was clearly sure from the start of this post.
But after all I feel so sorry for you

Martin - Wow, great thread. I know how painful/yet pleasureable what you are going thru can be. What's next seems pretty clear--no penile sex, but you will be allowed to satisfy her orally. While humiliating, you can still have satisfaction in knowing you can pleasure Julia with your tounge where Danny's larger cock has been and will be. She and Danny definately hold all the cards, and I'm afraid you'll need to walk thru your fears not run away from them. That's the only way to move past this eventually. Stop and catch your breath when you need to for your own sanity, but you are looking a creampie in the face. Good luck. Will likely be me someday soon the way my relationship is going.

she spent the New Year with him and arrived back yesterday evening. We had another long talk. She stressed she wants to stay with me and stay married but she cannot resist Danny at the moment. She also said that she did not believe they will stay together forever like us. However, while he is with him she should remain faithful sexually - she has promised this to him.

Am I mad to accept this situation?

say to her this is ok as long as you can live a parallel situation...

see how she react...
your italian bull in Venice
lets meet over week-ends or full weeks: your gorgeous hotwife will be my slut. From unaware sexy ladies to complete slut in training. Classy and strong. please Pm for detail. Age 49. Looks younger. Will travel to European de

we have discussed that but she said that she could not cope with me being with another woman. anyway i do not want to do that -it would just seem like revenge which is not right when you love someone.

she still gives me lots of love, we cuddled up together in bed last night, but for the moment i just know that sex is not possible. she promises that one day it will happen again when she finishes with Danny.

her sister sent me down a blow up doll for Xmas - looking back i think she was instrumental in all this, or her bf who is Danny's mate.

what if she gets knocked up by him,are you willing to cope with that?

no way that that will happen.she is on the pill and says that she does not want a kid at the moment at all,but might one day but only with me. He absolutely does not want her to get pregnant.

She's on the phone to him right now- and probably will be for ages.