spooj
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Very good. How about a follow up text along the lines of..."wow! You were SO WET last night! I loved it!"
Do you think it would be too pushy to add, "what was going through your mind to get you so worked up? (Whatever it was we should have more of it!)"
Maybe follow it up with a smiley to keep the tone positive.
This might encourage her feelings.
Also... If you have another conversation about the "sex without relationship" thing... tell her it's like using a dildo, but upgrading. Instead of using a fake dick for sex, a woman uses his real dick and the entire man's body and sexuality. With a dildo, a woman doesn't feel a man's body on top of her, moving with her, pushing and pulling her. There are so many feelings that a woman can experience when using a man as a sex object as opposed to a dildo.
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Turnstone
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I really like your post , with your (really) beautiful brunette wife & William, do you have any update from the last game or pillow talks?
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ralphgoff
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#93 · Edited by: ralphgoff
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I haven't seen anything new between my wife and William during the games. Even when he shows up with a girlfriend, they still sit next to my wife.
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Turnstone
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Thank you for the update, the situation seems to be progressing smoothly for the moment. It is sensitive to encourage without being too pushy . Good luck for the week-end and the next few days !
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someperson
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Workin both sides of the coin.
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Allen
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Great updates! It would be funny if they were already together and were just sitting back watching you go between them both...hehe Looking forward to your continued updates...thanks!
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ralphgoff
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#97 · Edited by: ralphgoff
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I haven't written much about my wife and William at the games, because nothing there has really changed.
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sn1_etr
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Great update, thanks for sharing. As always, keep us posted.
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ralphgoff
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#99 · Edited by: ralphgoff
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We are headed to an out of town this weekend.
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Turnstone
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Thank you RG for the update, which I was waiting for, I really enjoy your post! It is going slowly but not that slowly either, and it is quite interesting to follow and share real life situations & feelings Take care, and good luck for the tournament and the other activities!
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sn1_etr
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Every little bit helps and is appreciated RG, yes as I stated before keep posting. Thanks.
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Mac100
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I've been keeping up on your posts, but you may not be getting many comments because, as you said, not much new is happening.
When you guys are in bed has she progressed at all talking about it? As I said before, she may be hesitant to say much because up to this point everything has been fantasy and you don't even engage in that together, you're usually at work when she reads or listens to them.
Have you tried (when the mood is right) saying something like, "You know, I can't get what you told me about the husband who wants his wife to be with William out of my mind. I don't know why, but for some reamister I find that really exciting". If her reaction is what we're all hoping for, follow up with, "I was wondering why he wanted to tell you that. What do you think?"
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someperson
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You certainly won't ruin anything by posting updates even if there's not much 'character development'. Dick ends er...excuse me, Dickens was paid for chapters of content...and the worst that can happen is someone can skip a bit. I also like the updates, it's a nice story.
So...I'm hearing that your wife is basically becoming more friendly with this guy. How much are you actively encouraging the fantasy on her lately?
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Turnstone
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Hello RG, how did the week-end go, would you have any updates on situations, talks with your wife or William... ? Thanks again for that great real-life post !
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ralphgoff
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#105 · Edited by: ralphgoff
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The tournament was great. The team went 2-2 but the girls played pretty well. We had the team all stay at the same hotel which offered a lot of chances for us adults to bump into one another.
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Turnstone
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Thanks for the detailed update RG, there seems to be a fight between the conservative side of your wife and her more liberated side, and you might be adding to the confusion in her mind by supporting William instead of her "wise" behaviour! She got stressed in the tub when she realized that things were progressively going out of hand, and you were not coming back to rescue her from this awkward situation, but I think she was quite excited at the same time, deep inside I would suggest to keep quiet until the next game, and see what happens, how she acts and reacts ; an indicator could also be whether she plays with herself when on her own, if you can find out. Good luck, and be patient
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Allen
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Her reaction is what I would assume most women would have. Contact with another mans cock, other than her husbands...
Her mind was most likely racing, possibly feeling guilt, along with excitement. Her range of emotions were at a high. You did the right thing by assuring/consoling her.
"IF" she would ever cuckold you, the "Angst" you would feel, well, you will understand the high of emotion she felt.
Thanks for the great update.
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brisbanecuck
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Yeah, I agree too. Just take it easy, be cool. Sounds like William knows what he's doing, don't bring it up yourself. His next move will be cautious and careful and he'll be back in her good graces in no time.
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someperson
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It might be a time for you to go out of your way to make sure your wife feels 100% secure emotionally/sexually? Give the talk a break as she cools down from this incident.
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ralphgoff
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#110 · Edited by: ralphgoff
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Had another game last night. William showed up a few minutes after it started and after talking to a few people, finally made it up to sit by my wife. They seemed to be as friendly as ever and talked throughout the game.
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spooj
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How much longer before your team's seamister is over? I'm wondering if your window of opportunity will be closing soon.
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ralphgoff
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I've had the same thought. The last game is in two weeks, but my flower and his have talked about playing on the same basketball team this winter.
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jagman
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Will you be setting up an end of seamister party if so make it at your house again only this time when they are in the jaccuzzi leave to get more ice which you conveniantly forgot to get before hand,giving them a chance for something to develope. Sounds like William wouldnt pass up that oppertunity to hit on your wife and if you set up a camera you can see it all for yourself later. just a thought, keep posting we are all with you in this.
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Turnstone
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Thanks for the updates RG, nice to see things are still progressing gently! One thing you would be missing with basket ball is your wife sending out mails to parents, you wouldn't have either your current "watching position", but it can still keep things going... You can also have his flower staying regularly at your place The house party might also be a good bet Anyway, good luck for the coming weeks!
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spooj
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#115 · Edited by: spooj
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The real change that now needs to occur is for her to change her feelings from "this is terribly wrong" to "hey! This is exciting!"
And based on her hot tub reaction, I don't think another confrontation will change her perspective. I think that that change will come as a result of communication between you and her.
I think , if things are going to progress, you must somehow enter a discussion with her in which the following points are communicated:
1. Using another permister for sex can be like using his body as a just a sexual object (like a dildo, only better). He can be her "boy toy" (but the more accurate term is "bull").
2. As long as the consenting adults are all on the same page on how things will be handled and feelings are well communicated, the marriage won't be damaged. You are in control.
3. If all three of you want the same thing and you handle it maturely and considerately, you can reverse your perspective from it being "wrong" to being something that can add great excitement to your relationship.
4. If things don't work out and any of you don' t find it enjoyable, you have control over ceasing your activities and putting things back to the way they were.
Now, communicating these to her will probably be difficult - she's spent years thinking that this would be wrong. ralphgoff, only you will know the best methods of discussing this stuff with her and minimizing her freak-out levels.
From other posts I've read here, it seems that, in general, the wife freaks out at first, but, if it's carefully communicated to her (and she's open-minded enough), she cools down after a few days, re-thinks it, and begins to consider it.
It's at that time that it's best to start feeding her input: send her pics of big black cock with some sexy messages like "how hot would it be if you were taking on one of these monsters?!" While you work the black dildo on her, you could talk it up about her getting fucked by a black man.
Once she's into the fantasy, and once the two of you have discussed it and agree that you're ready to try it for real, invite William back over for some time in the hot tub, get her alone in the tub with him again, and have her tell him, "William, I think I'm ready for you to rub my feet now (with an evil smile)". He'll be all over her.
And I strongly suggest you film the whole thing. Preserve it, and you can watch the footage during your regular sex life.
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liberalwoman
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your column is the best. we both love it. we also have a william named luv.
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ralphgoff
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#117 · Edited by: ralphgoff
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Had a game Saturday but William didn’t show up.
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spooj
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#118 · Edited by: spooj
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I'd recommend discussing your views and opinions with her outside of the bedroom. When you pop it on her during the action, she probably feels ambushed. Her reaction, then, will probably be resistant to what you're saying, and that's counter-productive to your goal.
Again..my suggestion.... talk to her outside the bedroom. Start by being apologetic if you upset her. But then explain where you're coming from. You think it's super hot when she gets fucked by the big black dildo, and it plays along with the fantasy of her taking a real black man.
Now, be prepared for her reaction. She may say that sex between two people is a special thing blah blah...
Tell her that she's already been getting fucked by a dick that isn't yours (the dildo) and it's a black one. This is the same concept-using another, bbc for sex- it's just that this one would be the real thing.
Then say (and this is important), "You can't deny that the big black dildo has greatly improved the excitement for us."
If you can get her to think, "that's true"....that's a HUGE breakthrough. Now you're getting her to consider it.
It would also help if you could get her to admit that when she's taking the dildo, she's fantasizing about a black man....
If she admits that, and you've gotten her to think about it, stop the conversation right there. End it by saying, something like "ok. Well, it's just something to think about."
Then, in a night or two, have some sex with her and don't mention this at all. She'll be remembering what you discussed (thus, considering) in your previous conversation. If you bring it up again, she'll feel you're pushing her too hard.
It would be especially beneficial if you could work the black dildo on her again, but don't be too pushy.
Try to let her bring up the topic again after she's thought about it.
If she does, don't jump right into getting her hooked up with a black guy right away. The next step is to get her to enjoy hearing you talk it up while you work her with the black dildo. Once you accomplish that, then you're really making good progress.
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liberalwoman
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we wish you best of fuck. your rhread gives inspiration to fence sitters. take her in to confidence. respect her feelings and dignity. you have a great wife godess.
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Turnstone
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Listen to Dr Spooj, and take it easy, this is a slow process, even if quick accelerations are possible, we'll be waiting (and hoping for the best) with you As liberal woman, I'll wish you the best of fuck, and a bit of luck on top of it!
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