Why is their so much racism here?

I dont understand why its such a high amount of racism here? Is that part of the "game"? I've seen a post here which loudly discusses the penis size of black and white men. Some point to graphs showing blacks have the biggest and some to graphs where whites are the biggies. It has been very few studies in the subject and their has never been enough men in these tests.

I think its very indivdual. But when I see posts like "Blacks have bigger dicks because of the breeding for 400 years of slavery", that sounds extremly sick and twisted, and wrong I might add.

I begin to see that this forum has nothing to offer me, I dont want to be in a forum that has this amount of racist content. Im not that political correct its just that a lot of posts here are pure redneck bullcuckolds brownie.

Im not american, can it be that you have these twisted ideas over there? I hope not its 2007. Time for you all to live side by side like the true brothers we all are.
Wants to be humiliated by women.

No cuckolds brownie. This place has really plummeted downhill in the last 6 months. I rarely visit anymore.

I'm just here for the porn... if you want to get into racism, there's a whole fucking internet full of that cuckolds brownie, someplace else!

Yes, well, *I* for one am shocked, SHOCKED, to log on to an "Interracial Cuckold" forum and find RACISM! Oh My God! Like I am SO STUPID that I go to all the trouble to FIND this FORUM, and then I COMPLAIN about it, that it has RACISM? So, what did I expect? If I am offended by racism, why did I come here, where I was certain to be offended.

Because I'm too stupid to live. There, *I* said it, so give it a rest!

Love,

Jamie

littledicky
OK, littledicky, you're not an American so you get a pass on this. Here is the thing: Cuckolding is about offense and loss of status. In the US - yes even in 2007 - white people, and especially white males are the privileged power group. Only the most delusional right-wing nut would argue otherwise. Do I need to explain how that reality feeds into loss of status fantasy?

Secondly, here in America long standing popular racist myths about black male sexual prowess and so-called miscregenation are part of the psychological baggage carried by most people, white, black, or whatever. I suspect this isn't the only western country where that is true, but it is strong here. Playing to such baggage is a big part of what cuckold offense is all about, so is it any wonder so many cucks go in for the interreacial angle?

Hope this helps.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

But Mrs., my experience in swinging and bulling has been that the preference for blacks is no where near the scale that this site deals with - and this site typically deals with it in a racist manner. There are three sex clubs I go to in Montreal and in any year I might see one black guy the whole time. And when they do come out there isn't this overwhelming demand for them, in fact they are in less demand than the whites (which is probably due to the racism), which probably explains why they don't come out. There was an excellent article by Savage in a Toronto free magazine/newspaper that explains how the cuckold lifestyle is more and more getting into perpetuating the discriminatory myths about blacks. I think there are only a few on this site that do it, but they post about it and post about and post about it.

Oh, well, see? YOU are in Montreal. I'm down here in the stix. I could WALK to W's ranch! So where YOU are, everything is like, totally cool and none of this matters. Down heah, there are white folks still alive who remember BLACK guys getting LYNCHED, ala Sadam et al, for LOOKING at white girls.

Powerful stuff there, get it?

Didn't think so. It's all right now, in fact it's a gas. Better forgotten!

But I still have to live here and deal with it. Is it good? No. Is it here? Uh huh.

Sorry

Really I am...

Love,

Jamie

littledicky
There is alot of it indeed. I think it has to do with the fact that 70% of the people that post here are on haves. You know how that makes people paraniod.

MrsBlackBlowupDoll
Funny how you wrote to me when I said I wasent american, almost as if I was a young. How American... As if I should need any lesmisters in the american "way of life". But back to the subject.

As I said I understand the "black myth" and all that. But what I have seen on this forum goes beyond that. Its often pure racism, no longer a fantasy for some. Cuckold can be very diffrent things, not always to clean some ladies pussy after some biggie "ruined" her. ( I talk like a seamistered cuckold already). In some cases it can be the offense of a chick laughing or showing in other ways that you dick is to small. This is the essens of cuckold, the feeling that you dick is not enough.

Some take it to extremes, but still I find the racism unnessesary. And as The permister from Montreal said, this excludes black guys who also get turned on by this kind of offense.(yes they exist!)

To get turned on by a black guy fucking your white wife, fine. But to compare a black man to an natural with a tree for a dick is just wrong and takes us back hundreds of years. Its like saying a black man cant love and be with a white woman. I got news for some, there is a lot of black and white marriages and relationships. wake up and smell the 2007 coffe.
Wants to be humiliated by women.

"Littledicky"

As one of the posts above stated, cuckolding is about offense.

I guess you know that already or you wouldn't choose the name "littledicky" would you?

And the "I'm not PC but all of these posts are by rednecks" just proves the point.

The ones who insists there is a fundamental difference between black and white where there is none are the racists...

Get over yourself littledicky!

I understand and agree with just about everything you say, however,,,two things bother me, one is I'm an American, your response to MrsBlackBlowupDoll was probably because you felt she was being condescending towards you because you're not American (I didn't really see that), you struck back in self defense. Unfortunatley what I did see, is you catagorizing Americans as high and mighty, and needing to help the poor foriegner understand. So,,,with me not being guilty of doing that, but being guilty of being an American,,,living my "American Way of Life" sounds like a nationalistic form of racism. Secondly,,,as fowl and defensless as it is, whenever you have people whith different views on what turns them on, and those views are based on the differences perceived (real or imagined), between the races, you're gonna find racist debates,,,someones gonna be called better, someone's not gonna like it. USC's science dept. loses a debate to MIT, and they instantly become those assholes from MIT,,,your next door neighbor who's an accountant has a dog that keeps going in your yard right? Wrong, that fuckin bean counter's mutt is cuckolds brownieting on your lawn. Your landlord calls you up and says that even though you're a week late with the rent now, he'll need to get it before the end of the month, he's actually doing you a favor right? Wrong,,,he's that Jew ladyfucker screamin for his fucking money. It's all human nature (when in reality he's half Austrian and have Armenian and not Jewish at all),,,it ain't pretty, but if you haven't recognized it by now, you're in for a long hard road.

I don't think it is abouth ethnic affinity but rather a socio economic phenomenon. Peasants in sothern Europe were (and still are within certain stratas of society)considered as having high libidos and bigger dicks. As it happens black and so called Latino men are more often found in low paid work and attract the same myths. Yes the reference to selective breeding of slaves is sad because it is (in this respect) incorrect: the slave labour was bred for endurance, tenacity, and strengrh and not for big dicks. No pun intended but very rarely is anything black or white.

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I dont think that people understand the point of my post ... My point is NOT, to knock down on America, and I was merely teasing MrsBlackBlowupDoll, but her writings were quite american in style.

My point of this was that there need not be such an amount of racism to have a cuckold fantasy. Even the most extreme "cucks" in here should not have to succomb to low *****ile race bashing. As I have "explained" its 2007, and people need to see that these kinda things cant go on anymore. So by closing this thread (Wont be able to answer for a couple of weeks) Its always okey to have a fantasy as long as its not hurting anyone. When a fantasy is hurting someone its not only a fantasy but a reality for someone else. We all are humans.
Wants to be humiliated by women.

I think that most of the people on here just use thier rants to get a response because most of the people around in real time see thru thier cuckolds brownie, but here they can find people who are dejected and friendless like themselves and bond in thier stupidity. Probably has something to do with thier loss of self and loss of thier women even if it is only a fantasy. Change here however slow is happening, and white men who viwed themselves better by simply lacking melanin are starting to see thier grip on dominating the sociopolitical landscape is slowly slipping away, a few recent events must really scare the cuckolds brownie out old whitey, The Democratic front runners for president a woman a black man and a hispanic man, and holy cuckolds brownie two black coaches in the superbowl whats next an asian man as speaker of the house. Men not just white men but all in general want to keep the resourses and power where it is, with them, for some reamister whitemen associate this with thier women. Cant have them negros working on the docks doing cociane because thier stelling white women, cant have white women in chinatown because thier seducing white women, cant have jane around pancho because hes seducing her with that wacky tabacky! No rock n roll for jane it will turn her into a BBC whore oooppppssss

clive
Not all the time guy. Cuckolding is whatever, the couple dicides it is, whatever gets them horny. What turns them on about it and gets them off.

""""Change here however slow is happening, and white men who viwed themselves better by simply lacking melanin are starting to see thier grip on dominating the sociopolitical landscape is slowly slipping away, a few recent events must really scare the cuckolds brownie out old whitey"""""

Actually the gap between blacks and whites is the same as ever.

You would know that if you spent more time in school and less time at the basketball court.

actually the "glass ceiling" is starting to crack, just look around you(well maybe not around you, all you will see is white sheets and iron crosses) speaker of the house is a woman people who run some of the most successful business ventures in amreica are black(Oprah Russel Simmons Sean Combs), hey my vote is for a hispanic president, as you may or may not know Rome wasnt built in a day! And it will take more than one day to change people like you, but the train is a coming baby! Famous words from the wordsmith Beanie Segal "Either get down or lay down Bitch! Did the black man who fucks your wife not wipe that cuckolds brownie off his dick before he made you suck it, is that why you are so mad? Must be cause i can smell your cuckolds brownie from here!

although it would be as well for you to remember, hercumsthebride, that the Nazis did not confine themselves to discriminating adversely on the grounds of race (for example some v unpleasant homophobia - perhaps driven by their own supressed homosexuality).

Good point little dicky - and I think thug is right to say socio-economics is what is at the root.

This board is an example though of something that should be about fun and fantasy. Preserve us from the people who either forget or do not recognise that! <sigh>

littledicky
I don�t take any umbrage at your tweaking me on my American manner. But I do think I should explain that my implication was that as a non-American I would spare you the withering retort that my countrymen would get for asking such an obtuse question.

But perhaps I have misapprehended you? I thought you were asking why racist themes played so much in cuckold fantasies. You might also have meant more generally, why are people (or Americans, if you prefer) so racist. That is a topic for some other board and site, I think. But you now suggest that your question was more narrowly �why is there so much of it on this particular site.� It seems to me that is a question about the way in which people use the internet and congregate, etc. Again, not really for this board in my view. My advice: Look into some academic research on the topic of community building on line.

I agree with your obvious point that cuckolding does not have to embrace racist themes or stereotypes. I imagine everyone here would agree. But apparently, a lot of the users do like them and so they can be found here. You know what? They can also be avoided. The interracial angle has only slight appeal to me, so I don�t go to that forum much. That�s the beauty of the bulletin board interface. (Of course, once in a while someone intrigues me with something really shocking in the thread title � like dropping the R-bomb.) If you find the racial stuff unnecessary, skip that forum. If you like it but find the scene here too extreme in its objectification of people of color, why not appeal for a new forum?

One more thing: I thought it was a bit arrogant to start a conversation by shouting �racism� on a crowded bulletin board (the verbal equivalent of a grenade) and then announcing the thread closed when you got debate.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Montreal Dom
I have no way of knowing whether the preference for 'bulls of color' on this board reflects the wider world. I suspect it is a somewhat distorted reflection, although my own anecdotal experience has found African-Americans present but hardly outsized from the larger population in this lifestyle. Again, as I said to littledicky, that is really about people congreggating among like minded. A few find each other here, more follow. Birds of a feather, if you will.

By the way, if it was his syndicated column I remember the Dan Savage piece you reference and I think you should go back and read it again. I don't recall him suggesting that cuckolding fetishists were "increasingly" perpetuating racist myths. As I remember it, his point was that 'we're all a little bit racist' (as the Broadway misterg goes) and there is nothing wrong with playing it out in consensual sexual fantasy.
Pantalone, Wittol, oblate, abnegator, fellator, pathic, irrumatiophile,fop, epicene, cotquean, skivvy, thrall, and pilgarlic.

Now this statement isn't racist, but is a major bone of contention for me. It is 110% wrong,,,it's so wrong I'm having a hard time making up my mind which point to tackle first. How about I start by explaining that being who I am means I get a ton of mail, an unbelievable amount from men asking me to "cuckold" them (maybe that's why I'm so insensed at the statement). If you replaced the word "cuckold" in the statement made by Justin with the word "sex",,,then it would be accurate. If I decide to tie my husband up, regardless of what I decide to call it, it's still bondage, if I whip him it's called sadism, if he likes it it's called masochism,,,it's not even the english language I'm upset that people are destroying, it's language in general,,,how much is 27 times red, divided by cabbage? Once we have those figures we can solve all the mysteries of life. There's a reamister we have a dictionary,,,mostly so we don't wind up trying to divide things by cabbage. Cuckold isn't whatever you think it is, it's exactly what it is. Telling the guy in the 7-11 that I think looseleaf paper is money, isn't gonna convince him to let me out of the store with my cigarettes until I give him what HE (and everybody else), thinks is money. When you screw up and find your car on the wrong side of the road on a divided hiway, you may laugh and say it feels like I'm driving in England,,,but the hardcore reality of it is that everyone else feels like they're driving in America,,,regardless of what you feel. DP isn't what you think it is either, DP is double penetration, meaning two dicks in a pussy,,,what people are calling DP is in actuality a "sandwhich",,,but you take a few Jersey boys that move to the valley in Cali, hook up with some money men and produce porn, and suddenly these people are setting the standards. Bewteen Dr. Spock (not the guy with the ears), jeans and calculators in school, TV, and an "I want it now" attitude towards life, we've bread a couple of generations of numbnuts, that will no doubt require an apocalypse to fix (that's crash and reboot for you people that think things are whatever you want them to be).

um does jim crow ring a bell??? How about miscegenation laws?? Well those were extensions of slavery, and the reaction of slavery being outlawed its only been 50 years since all youngren were allowed to get an education together. I'm not hating on your comment, and i made a funny comment on the other thread, but why shouldnt we get reparations?? The asains that were held in concentration camps were given repartaions, and the goverment formally appoligized for thier actions, that has never happened for the peoples who were enslaved in this country so why is reparations so crazy?

Will you give reparations to the Irish slaves? What about the Chinese slaves?

Since the black slaves were sold by other blacks in Africa, will you get reparations from them in Africa too?

The American Indians kept negro slaves too. Will you get reparations from them too?

What about the slavery that is going on right now in Africa? Are you even aware of it? (google search "modern slavery africa'). Will you do anything to stop it? Have you? Do you even care?

What about the billions of dollars that has been sent to Africa as aid? Will you deduct that from your reparation total?

What about the tribes in Africa who are keeping slaves now? Will they pay reparations to the other tribes and release their slaves?

What about all the whites who died in the Civil War fighting for the Union and the eventual abolishment of slavery? Will you trace their red lines and then pay reparations to their kin? Do you think that someone whose great great grandman fought for the Union in the Civil War should have to pay reparations?

Who is to get these reparations? All blacks in the U.S.? How black is black? Will you give red tests or something?

What about people whose families didn't come here before 1865, should they be required to pay your reparations?

What about women? Women didn't have the right to vote for many years and didn't have the same access to jobs or education. Should they get reparations too?

And what are these reparations for? For not having the same rights and living a sub standard existence? But if you compare it to the existence they would have had if they remained in Africa, they lived at a FAR higher standard. In fact, if not for one of your foremans being a slave, you would be sitting in a straw hut in Africa right now with no school at all, no water, no electricity, and starving half the time.

The more you think about the silly notion of reparations, the more ridiculous it becomes.

Instead of sitting around complaining about the past or wishing for a free handout, I suggest that you put your ass in school and get a degree and learn to contribute to the society in which you live in a positive way.

All that reparations, HUD and free housing, and affirmative action are is just more and more ways and excuses to get free handouts.

No one wants to try the way that has an almost 100% success rate:

Get a degree

Get a job

and

Do a good job.


If you have a marketable degree or s******* and have good social and work habits, you are almost guaranteed to be a success in this country, no matter what race you are. No need to sit around and bitch about racism, reparations or slavery or other nonsense.

And on top of that, you'll have a better life too.

last time i checked the micks came here as indentured servants, and most were happy just to have a meal since they couldnt even grow potatoes in ireland. Chinese came here but in no way were slaves, laws were passed to ensure they could only be in a service industry, hence all the resturants and laundry places which they are known for. you should know that having a quater of black red made you black, go back to one of your hate sites and veryify and you will see! Lastly acutally i am in college, and i served this country in Both wars under Bush, and i will get my comm in 3 more semesters guess living a life protecting others is good right bouusssss??

can u dig it,

You better study up on your history:

The hyperlink is visible to registered members only!

And here's the response to your 'indentured' remark:

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Slaves or Indentured Servants

There has been a lot of whitewashing of the Irish slave trade, partly by not mentioning it, and partly by labelling slaves as indentured servants. There were indeed indentureds, including English, French, Spanish and even a few Irish. But there is a great difference between the two. Indentures bind two or more parties in mutual obligations. Servant indentures were agreements between an individual and a shipper in which the individual agreed to sell his services for a period of time in exchange for passage, and during his service, he would receive proper housing, food, clothing, and usually a piece of land at the end of the term of service. It is believed that some of the Irish that went to the Amazon settlement after the Battle of Kinsale and up to 1612 were exiled military who went voluntarily, probably as indentureds to Spanish or Portuguese shippers.

However, from 1625 onward the Irish were sold, pure and simple as slaves. There were no indenture agreements, no protection, no choice. They were captured and originally turned over to shippers to be sold for their profit. Because the profits were so great, generally 900 pounds of cotton for a slave, the Irish slave trade became an industry in which everyone involved (except the Irish) had a share of the profits.

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And the Irish were actually treated worse than African slaves in many cases:

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Although the Africans and Irish were housed together and were the property of the planter owners, the Africans received much better treatment, food and housing. In the British West Indies the planters routinely ***d white slaves for any infraction.

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"""""""""you should know that haivng a quater of black red made you black, go back to one of your hate sites and veryify and you will see! Lastly"""""""""""""


I don't have any 'hate' sites so I'm unsure what you are trying to say. In fact I don't have any sites that I own or operate.

""""""""""acutally i am in college, and i served this country in Both wars under Bush, and i will get my comm in 3 more semesters guess living a life protecting others is good right bouusssss??""""""""""

That's very good and I'm glad that you are trynig to make something out of your life. Keep it up, it will all pay off in the long run.

But I'm disturbed that you harbor so many misconceptions and have unrealistic ideas about the real world and history. I think this is effecting your thinking.

stupidity and cowardice of America's teachers and educational system, White youth are taught that Black slaves, Mexican peons and Chinese coolies built this country while the vast majority of the Whites lorded it over them with a lash in one hand and a mint julep in the other. So this a non slanted site?? Let it be said, in many cases Blacks in slavery had it better than poor Whites in the antebellum South.To this day, the White ruling class denigrates the White poor and patronizes Blacks.White, self-hating liberals and greed-head conservatives who claim to care for the "civil rights" of Black and Third World people, discard the working class of their own people on the garbage heap of history. When they are finished with their own they shall surely turn on others.Hoffman also argues that the final plans of this ruling cabal are slowly being revealed through movies such as They Live and The Matrix so this is the truth? Come on i'll just take the red pill and see how far the rabbit hole goes and find it for myself thanks